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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2011, 06:17:37 am »
yes and I am happy with it. if there was any serious lag issue with games Id know. if I dont notice anything then you wont either because I know street fighter stuff frame by frame lol. and no "ghosting" issues either. Id say this is the best bang for your buck for an LCD that size. there is auto input detection. and it has audio pass through for hdmi ports if you wanna hook up an external sound system. built in speakers are ok at best. Id add a $20 sound system with sub.

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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2011, 07:21:29 am »
Alright, thanks for your input. Picking a monitor is the last thing I really need to decide on for my cab...
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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2011, 01:34:02 am »
@nox : ya that's it on newegg (fan of newegg -not tiger btw). the 27.5" 16:10 (hanns-g hz281) does work very nicely and i'm excited to be building a cab around it. 

the viewing angle from side to side seems to lighten noticeably after about 20* from center WITH A SOLID COLOR, but is less noticable with a graphic or game up (25* if you're looking for it).

up and down is a little more touchy if there's fine detail,  after about 5* from center (up-and-down) the screen will lighten as you go up, and darken as you go down. *not a deal breaker though.

1. monitor angle is very important in a build using an lcd. it needs to be aimed correctly for the average user.
2. if you're looking for the "fine" detail in a games image... though angle affects it, the details are still more noticable on an lcd than a fuzzy crt.

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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2011, 01:36:48 pm »
1. monitor angle is very important in a build using an lcd. it needs to be aimed correctly for the average user.

Only when using TN panels. They suffer from "from below watching solarisation": the image inverts below a certain angle.
With an IPS or PVA one you can pretty much use any angle, even horizontal in coffee table ones.

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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2011, 01:10:27 am »
I know this is an old thread, but Santa has decided to get me this monitor for my aging cabinet.  When it comes in I'll snap some pics so you can see what a conversion looks like as I'll be putting it in my MK-like cabinet. 

Btw they are on sale at newegg.com for the rest of the day.  230 bucks with promo code. 

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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2011, 01:01:51 pm »
Anybody have a promo code I can use on this?
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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2011, 04:35:02 pm »
So I am looking at this beast.

http://www.lgsolutions.com/products/lcd-monitors/large-screen-monitors/m3703ccba-37-class-370-diagonal-lcd-widescreen-hd-capable-monitor?archived=true

It is only 720p. I know it is big, but I am building a 4 player cabinet and wanted the equivalent of at least a 30" 4:3. Also, I want to play SFIV on it. Any drawbacks of this one?

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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2011, 06:41:23 pm »
If you're going to be playing SF on an LCD then you need to make sure that it has as little input delay as possible.  Start by reading the FAQ on SRK.

http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-new-definitive-hdtv-lag-faq.55593/

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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2011, 07:47:49 pm »
Great read Jack. So based on that I feel comfortable getting that LG monitor as it has the "digital signage" term in the summary. I think this is just what I am looking for. Wish it was 1080p but 720P will do.

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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2015, 04:50:28 pm »
There really is no point making a judgement on the merits of crt vs lcd through side by side photos. For a start, not all crt displays and lcd monitors are created equal. With both technologies, you will find some displays with amazing blacks and some that suck. The 40" pioneer 4:3 plasma monitors, for example, have terrible blacks but the Pioneer Kuro tv's have blacks that have only been beaten by OLED tv's.

Similarly, there are a number of CRT displays (mostly made by Sony) that have great blacks. Home theater fans still buy Sony G90 crt projectors for their amazing contrast. 240p games through Svideo on my Sony Trinitron crt tv have decent blacks and a overall good image quality once I have adjusted the color balance on my jrok encoder.

The real advantage of crt over any other technology for gaming,is their ability to switch resolutions. Lcd and plasma displays have a fixed pixel pitch and scale every other resolution to fit. Scaling makes 2d graphics look terrible because the scalers inside most tv's are terrible. You really need an external scaler to make old games look ok.

Because CRT's don't have a fixed pixel pitch or a native resolution, you can play an old 320 x 240 game, followed by a 256 x 240 and then a 640 x 480 game and they can all look perfect. If you are going to use an lcd or plasma for classic gaming, you should ideally look for a 480p one so you can have 240 lines plus 240 black ones as simulated scanlines. This is why those old 40" 4:3 plasma monitors are in demand. They have a native 480p pitch and are the largest 4:3 flatscreens available.

Incidentally, if you are choosing between an lcd monitor vs an lcd tv then perhaps the tv might have an advantage for older games as it will probably accept a 480i 15khz signal. It will still upscale it but at least it will display something. My lcd monitors normally just say "out of range" when I try old 15khz games. This will only apply to older lcd tv's though. I hear than some lcd tv's like Samsung panels, won't accept old game console signals.

I currently use a 25" trisync crt arcade monitor for old games and a 24" 16:9 Sony playstation monitor for newer games. The 24" led playstation monitor is the best I have seen for old games on an lcd monitor. Even though it is a 1080p panel, they managed to display 240p games (at 120hz) without adding too many jagged edges. They have HDMI and component inputs too. They are also 3d. 240p games on my other 1080p lcd monitors look like a pixelated mess.

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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2015, 06:07:29 pm »
Seems that way.  Low res, too.  1600x900 is fairly common, and "FULL HD 1080p!!!!!1!!one" has become the standard for "highest res you can reasonably get".  Nevermind that my 1.5 year old laptop handily beats that (1920x1200 on a 15.4" 16:10), and heck, my laptop from 2003 still slaughters almost any new monitor on DPI (1600x1200 on a 15" 4:3).  Nobody's willing to pay the premium for those sorts of things, especially since "everything's too small" (thank you, Windows, and your total lack of usable DPI setting/scaling support until Win7), so the mass market stuff goes giant, low res, and cheap.  Those 2560x1600 monitors are usually crazy expensive, especially for anything other than a crap TN, if you can even find them.

This, totally this.  I'm far from an expert on display tech and stuff, but I had a laptop about 6 years ago that was 17", 1920x1200 and it kinda bothers me that both laptops I've bought to replace it are 1600x900.  I didn't pay a mint for that old laptop either, now if you want that hi-res stuff it's some niche, $3k 'gaming machine'. 

I see your problem. I don't understand why, but the USA seems to be excluded from many high quality panels available in the EU. Do you guys only want cheap and big?

Uh, yeah.  That applies to our sodas and our women as well... at least for me.

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Re: Lcd Tv or Monitor
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2015, 03:04:28 pm »
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