Super Joysticks..non-Happ?

[AE35]

Hey all!

Do anyone know these Super Joysticks? They're not Happ I am told by the
store.



What are the word on the street? return-to-center, throw etc..

Thanks,

Nicholas

[ahofle]

They certainly look just like Happs Supers.  I'm not saying those ripoffs are of the same quality, but I think Supers are probably the best all around 8-way microswitch joystick out there in my experience.

[AE35]

Thanks!

Can you tell me anything about short or fast throw from the picture?

I hope they have a little shorter throw that the competitions, but not as much
as the Mag-Sticks.

[ahofle]

I think the throw is similar to the Competition, but it feels a tad stiffer.  From what I've read the throw is shorter than the mag stick, but I have never tried a mag stick, so don't quote me on that.  The problem with the Competition (for me) was that it was very difficult to hit the cardinal directions (left, right, up,down) without accidentally hitting diagonal.  Some games are very hard to play properly because of this (Gauntlet and Venture come to mind).

EDIT: Corrected by leapinlew

[kowal]

http://www.kowal.itcom.pl/ArcadeParts_pliki/EurostyleJoystick.htm

this total crap.
microswitches total ---Cleveland steamer---
I bought him (3$)    to mod P360 - I needed lighter spring

Thanks!

Can you tell me anything about short or fast throw from the picture?

I hope they have a little shorter throw that the competitions, but not as much
as the Mag-Sticks.

purchase J-stick

[AE35]

The problem with the Competition (for me) was that it was very difficult to hit the cardinal directions (left, right, up,down) without accidentally hitting diagonal. 

I had the same problem with the mag-sticks. In games like Commando and Donpachi
etc. I remember in Out Zone when you have to walk across some stuff without
falling down. That was really annoying when you tried to walk straight ahead and it
would go diagonally.

[AE35]

http://www.kowal.itcom.pl/ArcadeParts_pliki/EurostyleJoystick.htm

this total crap.
microswitches total ---Cleveland steamer---
I bought him (3$)    to mod P360 - I needed lighter spring

What is wrong with it?

[kowal]

What is wrong with it?

believe me... ALL
disastrous engagement
disastrous diagonals he acts how joystick 4 way
realization is tragical
 this Chinese scrap-iron.

The problem with the Competition (for me) was that it was very difficult to hit the cardinal directions (left, right, up,down) without accidentally hitting diagonal. 

I had the same problem with the mag-sticks. In games like Commando and Donpachi
etc. I remember in Out Zone when you have to walk across some stuff without
falling down. That was really annoying when you tried to walk straight ahead and it
would go diagonally.

you tried octagonal?
- Sanwa JLF + restrictor GT-Y (Ponyboy sells it)
- Suzo Universal Inductive

[AE35]

I can't read the polish on your site, are there any other reviews?

Thanks,

Nicholas

[leapinlew]

From what I've read the throw is shorter than the mag stick

This cant be true. I had a magstik and I have supers now. Nothing has a shorter throw than a magstik.

[Q*Bert_OP]

thos look like Betson's form of the super joystick...called the superior joy? by them...

[Lewis Black]

The plastic handles are different from Happ supers. 

[kowal]

I can't read the polish on your site, are there any other reviews?

Thanks,

Nicholas

it be visible photos and numbers
mode - 8way
rotation - circle
throw - 15mm |12 degrees
engage - 11mm | 8,5 degres
range of diagonals 10 degres | hit 30%
spring 0,43kG | 4,21N

[ahofle]

This cant be true. I had a magstik and I have supers now. Nothing has a shorter throw than a magstik.

Corrected my post. 

[Grasshopper]

I've got a couple of these which I bought off another board member a few years ago. I've never actually used them because they were fairly beaten up and one of them was missing a spacer (the seller didn't tell me about this ) however, I can comment on their appearance and build.

They feel very solid, almost as well made as the Happ/IL Supers on which they're clearly based. Definitely not junk. One thing I like about them is that the visible section of the shaft below the bat handle is solid metal whereas on the Happ supers this section of the shaft is covered by a plastic sleeve. This is obviously only a cosmetic difference but it makes the joysticks look a little classier IMHO.

The joysticks are height adjustable and both heights are slightly higher than the Happ equivalent. So they're easily fitted to a wood panel. The downside is that the extra height makes the joystick's throw a little longer than the Super's, and the Super's throw is already too long IMHO.

I can confirm the microswitches are crap but they're easily replaced.

I believe they're manufactured by SunBetty.

http://www.sunbetty.com.tw/products_disp.asp?cat=2