Author Topic: Joust cocktail Plans (Read 36429 times)

spacies · « **on:** September 27, 2006, 09:22:39 pm »

A friend wants me to build him a Joust cocktail and he will give a deal me one of his Williams Defender machines.
We only got generic cabinets here in the 80s and they were fitted with imported PCBs. BORING!

So to have an original USA machine is quite a big deal. You guys are SO lucky

Anyway, I require the plans or basic measuements for this build.

Thanks in advance.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #1 on:** September 28, 2006, 05:16:40 pm »

I've been hemming and hawing all day because I hate measuring cabs, but this seems to be for a worthwhile cause and my Joust cocktail is currently accesible sitting in the middle of the basement.

It may take me some time to get to it, but I'll assemble some measurements for you. Remind me in a week in case RealLife(tm) intervenes and I forget.

Cheers.

nostrebor · « **Reply #2 on:** September 28, 2006, 05:46:28 pm »

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on September 28, 2006, 05:16:40 pm

I've been hemming and hawing all day because I hate measuring cabs, but this seems to be for a worthwhile cause and my Joust cocktail is currently accesible sitting in the middle of the basement.

It may take me some time to get to it, but I'll assemble some measurements for you. Remind me in a week in case RealLife(tm) intervenes and I forget.

Cheers.

You had me on the list for these as well

If I could get my hands on a cabinet for a dy or two, I would definitely work up some plans in Cad and share them.

spacies · « **Reply #3 on:** September 28, 2006, 06:28:36 pm »

Thanks heaps mate,

I will also be happy to document the build and post progress photos and tips here.

I am sure it will be helpful to many looking at building one of the coolest cocktails made.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #4 on:** October 01, 2006, 04:41:17 am »

keep on cheffos arse on this

spacies · « **Reply #5 on:** October 01, 2006, 06:10:13 am »

The Young Ones. Totally classic TV show!

Come on Cheffo

You can do it!

MinerAl · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2006, 11:56:48 am »

bump

Cheffo!

Cheffo!

Cheffo!

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2006, 12:02:01 pm »

I said a week

Cheers

spacies · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2006, 06:15:23 pm »

Not a word

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2006, 07:14:57 pm »

I didn't get to it last night as an opportunity arose for me to pick up a couple of new projects (as if I need more of those, but the price was right and I really need a vertical MAME cabinet).

I've got some pics taken and will superimpose measurements on them tommorrow.

From those, you guys can ask for more pics and clarifications.

Cheers.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2006, 09:50:54 pm »

OK ... I ran into some technical difficulties with PaintShopPro, but rather than delay until next week (holiday weekend here and I'm going to the cottage),I will treat you all to my mad MSPaint skillz ...

Here are some photos and badly-inserted measurements.

WARNING: Bandwidth-intensive as I did not resize the photos (hence not putting the burden on saint to host):

http://216.176.56.158/arcade/joust1.html

Once I get back, I can refine/check/add whatever you guys need, but at least you have a starting point and haven't been waiting a year like danny_galaga (Go Special Patrol Group!) did for Asteroids measurements.

Cheers.

spacies · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:14:33 pm »

Cheffo,

You're a god dam legend my friend.

Thats all I need.

Thanks very much!

This will be my next build after I finish the Donkey Kong.

PS Love the spray painting LOL

leapinlew · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:30:29 pm »

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on October 04, 2006, 09:50:54 pm

OK ... I ran into some technical difficulties with PaintShopPro, but rather than delay until next week (holiday weekend here and I'm going to the cottage),I will treat you all to my mad MSPaint skillz ...

Here are some photos and badly-inserted measurements.

WARNING: Bandwidth-intensive as I did not resize the photos (hence not putting the burden on saint to host):

http://happycampers.to/arcade/joust1.html

Once I get back, I can refine/check/add whatever you guys need, but at least you have a starting point and haven't been waiting a year like danny_galaga (Go Special Patrol Group!) did for Asteroids measurements.

Cheers.

CheffoJeffo

That was very kind of you Cheffo.

Stingray · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2006, 11:35:59 am »

Quote from: nostrebor on September 28, 2006, 05:46:28 pm

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on September 28, 2006, 05:16:40 pm
I've been hemming and hawing all day because I hate measuring cabs, but this seems to be for a worthwhile cause and my Joust cocktail is currently accesible sitting in the middle of the basement.

It may take me some time to get to it, but I'll assemble some measurements for you. Remind me in a week in case RealLife(tm) intervenes and I forget.

Cheers.

You had me on the list for these as well If I could get my hands on a cabinet for a dy or two, I would definitely work up some plans in Cad and share them.

Dave, if you're still planning on doing some real plans from the photos +fu for you. Post them in the fort if you do them in case I lose track of this thread. I'd love to have them.

-S

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2006, 11:37:56 am »

Quote from: Stingray on October 05, 2006, 11:35:59 am

Dave, if you're still planning on doing some real plans from the photos +fu for you. Post them in the fort if you do them in case I lose track of this thread. I'd love to have them.

I'll offer to host them and pass along to Jake and zorg for them as well ...

Cheers.

nostrebor · « **Reply #15 on:** October 05, 2006, 02:32:16 pm »

Quote from: Stingray on October 05, 2006, 11:35:59 am

Quote from: nostrebor on September 28, 2006, 05:46:28 pm
Quote from: CheffoJeffo on September 28, 2006, 05:16:40 pm
I've been hemming and hawing all day because I hate measuring cabs, but this seems to be for a worthwhile cause and my Joust cocktail is currently accesible sitting in the middle of the basement.

It may take me some time to get to it, but I'll assemble some measurements for you. Remind me in a week in case RealLife(tm) intervenes and I forget.

Cheers.

You had me on the list for these as well If I could get my hands on a cabinet for a dy or two, I would definitely work up some plans in Cad and share them.

Dave, if you're still planning on doing some real plans from the photos +fu for you. Post them in the fort if you do them in case I lose track of this thread. I'd love to have them.

-S

It may be a while, but yeah I'm still planning on it.

nostrebor · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2006, 02:38:25 pm »

Now that I've replied, I went and looked at the pics. THANKS! alot. I can get a long way with those, and I'll probably pass some questions along once I get the primary stuff figured out. We cant get an exact replica, but I can get a good facsimile frome these.

I may have to build a prototype to prove the plans work

*Dave tells his wife: "But honey, I have to build a proto. Otherwise we'll never know if my plans are good."

Edit: typo.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2006, 11:03:57 pm »

Quote from: nostrebor on October 05, 2006, 02:38:25 pm

Now that I've replied, I went and looked at the pics. THANKS! alot. I can get a long way with those, and I'll probably pass some questions along once I get the primary stuff figured out. We cant get an exact replica, but I can get a good facsimile frome these.

No worries ... let me know what else you need -- I can do tracings of the curves if that would help.

Whatever you need.

Cheers.

eccs19 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:40:10 pm »

Quote

No worries ...

Whatever you need.

Cheers.

How about the cab itself?

fixedpigs · « **Reply #19 on:** January 17, 2007, 12:34:20 am »

jeffo...

in the first photo...
what is the length from dead center front to back on the top...?

thanks...!

spacies · « **Reply #20 on:** January 17, 2007, 12:42:39 am »

Wohoo,

Progress?

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #21 on:** January 17, 2007, 09:14:53 am »

Quote from: fixedpigs on January 17, 2007, 12:34:20 am

in the first photo...
what is the length from dead center front to back on the top...?

27 1/4"

Cheers

fixedpigs · « **Reply #22 on:** January 17, 2007, 01:31:29 pm »

well here's what i've started so far...

some angle(115deg?) or measurement isn't right...

the 19 1/2" horizontal section should have its ends meeting the two dashed lines coming off at ninety degree angles from the 17 3/8" sides...

hopefully it won't inconvenience you too much jeffo to take some more measurements...?

thanks...!

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #23 on:** January 17, 2007, 01:40:09 pm »

Ack ..

Try 105 instead of 115.

fixedpigs · « **Reply #24 on:** January 17, 2007, 01:50:06 pm »

soooooo close...

Tailgunner · « **Reply #25 on:** January 17, 2007, 08:34:43 pm »

What I've got so far...

Tailgunner · « **Reply #26 on:** January 17, 2007, 08:49:39 pm »

side...

fixedpigs · « **Reply #27 on:** January 17, 2007, 11:43:08 pm »

Quote from: Tailgunner on January 17, 2007, 08:34:43 pm

What I've got so far...

looks good...but...the one angle is clearly ninety degrees...so there is a measurement that is slightly off...

or a combination of measurements that are slightly off...

Tailgunner · « **Reply #28 on:** January 18, 2007, 12:21:24 am »

They're bound to be a little off, the cab doesn't have many square corners to base the measurements from in the first place. I figure if it looks right, it is right.

fixedpigs · « **Reply #29 on:** January 18, 2007, 11:31:19 am »

jeffo...

is the thickness of the plywood 3/4" or 1"...?

thanks...

fixedpigs · « **Reply #30 on:** January 18, 2007, 12:51:20 pm »

what i came up with using 105 and 90 degree angles...

Tailgunner · « **Reply #31 on:** January 18, 2007, 06:33:54 pm »

Good work on the top, any luck with the side panel?

I've got most of it modeled but I used rectangular side panels as placeholders till I've got the control panels worked out. They're getting there but I need to re-do them to correct a couple of things.

Questions for Chello:
How thick are the underside pieces for the control panels? (not the lower front piece, but the bottom panel that doesn't show in the pics.) How do you access the back side of the control panels for servicing the joysticks and buttons?

ahofle · « **Reply #32 on:** January 18, 2007, 07:17:50 pm »

Quote from: fixedpigs on January 18, 2007, 12:51:20 pm

what i came up with using 105 and 90 degree angles...

Joust cocktail? Or Oprah's underwear.

fixedpigs · « **Reply #33 on:** January 19, 2007, 02:23:58 pm »

cheffojeffo...

could you get these measurements...?

thanks again...!

Kaytrim · « **Reply #34 on:** January 19, 2007, 02:40:23 pm »

Look at the front pic of the cab that he has. You will see that the total height is 28" and the height of the sides is 27". Thus the thickness of the top is 1".

fixedpigs · « **Reply #35 on:** January 19, 2007, 02:57:30 pm »

quite right...

tailgunner...here's what i came up with for the side...assuming a ten degree angle for the cp slope...

hopefully they jive with what cheffo can come up with...

Tailgunner · « **Reply #36 on:** January 19, 2007, 05:16:25 pm »

Cool, gimme a little while to "panelize" then and check things against the rest of the cabinet.

p.s. I'm with Drew, that avatar is creepy.

update: I had to tweak the dimensions a little to line things up, but I believe we've about got this puppy whipped.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #37 on:** January 19, 2007, 08:19:02 pm »

Looks great, guys ... I'll try to get the rest of the dimensions tommorrow (If I forget, then PM me).

Cheers

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2007, 07:09:03 pm »

Sorry guys, too bagged tonight. I'll try tommorrow.

FWIW, there was a Joust cocktail at auction today (second one I have ever seen in person) ... went for $400 Cdn. Only problem was a bad sound board (well, there was no sound and I guess it could have been the ROM board, but my money would be on the sound board).

Cheers

Tailgunner · « **Reply #39 on:** January 20, 2007, 08:36:42 pm »

Not a problem CJ.

Only things I need at this point would be a pic of the underside of a control panel, and a pic of the cab interior taken from the side looking towards the front of the cab. They don't need dimensions I'd just like to see a few things before I draw a blueprint showing all the pieces.

I will say these are going to be somewhat of a pain to build, it reminds me a lot of the way my Pacman cocktail was designed. Midway got smart and simplified the design for the Ms Pac cocktails, and people wisely have been basing all the Midway style replicas off of those.


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