Marquee Printing

[wee beastie]

Hey guys.  I made a marque image in Paint Shop Pro, and when I save it as a jpeg it's about 850 to 900K big.  The image is about 5600 by 1600 pixels.  This seems to be a pretty small file given the pixel size of the image.  Will it print out OK?  

If I save it as a paint shop pro file, it's about 28 Megabytes, but it's the same image.  Is there a difference in quality between the two (the jpeg vs the paint shop pro image)?  If so, what is the best format to save in so a printer can get maximum quality from the image?

TIA

[SNAAAKE]

Got a cd burner?

I wouldnt print .jpg format.

Its low quility .

Best format would be either Paintshop or Photoshop.

Looks pretty good last time I printed.

Wanna see how it looks?


You should print your marque on backlit paper too.

[wee beastie]

snake,

Where did you get you marquee printed?  What DPI setings did you use?

Kinkos advertises that they can do 600 dpi.  If I save the file as a jpeg at 600 dpi, the file size jumps to about 150 Megabytes.  Do you know if they can handle a file that big?  I have a CD burner, so getting it to them should not be a problem.

wee beastie

[SNAAAKE]

snake,

Where did you get you marquee printed?  What DPI setings did you use?

Kinkos advertises that they can do 600 dpi.  If I save the file as a jpeg at 600 dpi, the file size jumps to about 150 Megabytes.  Do you know if they can handle a file that big?  I have a CD burner, so getting it to them should not be a problem.

wee beastie

I printed mine at 600dpi and my actual image size was around 400mb but when kinkos opend my file it was like over 1gb but they printed mine without any problem.
Question is can your computer handle very big stuff?you know running low on memory.My own computer couldnt open my marque file due to low memory so i did the marque on my brother's computer.

I would still say DONT print .jpg.
Bring the photoshop or paintsho format and you be allright.

[wee beastie]

sounds good.  Thanks.

One more question.  What type of paper did you print on?

[SNAAAKE]

sounds good.  Thanks.

One more question.  What type of paper did you print on?

Backlit..i did print on mattpaper before and wasnt happy.

If you are not too anal and you dont wanan spend(should I say waste) lot of money then you could just print on regular matt paper.

regualar paper is still good and all though.

[creepfactory]

Bah, no offense Snaaake, but you should never need such a big file to print a marquee, 400 megs is like billboard size! I am a professional graphic designer, and have never needed a file over say 150 megs max, you just need to choose the right resolution for the final output. for a marquee 300 dpi to size should be fine, like 80 or so megs. As for using a jpeg, just be sure to save any jpeg with very little compression at all and there will be no percieveable artifatcs. But dont listen to him, a 400 meg file is just bad choice of size vs resolution. I get the same stuff from uppitty graphic design "arteests" I call em, who insist every damn thing must be made in quark, an awful, limiting stuck up program. I use photoshop for everything, again, you just need to pick a final output size and match it to a resolution, and 300 dpi for a marquee is more than fine, it will keep crisp lines etc, but it has to me to the exact size of the real deal. 400 megs? 1 gig uncompressed? For an image?!? Holy crap thats an hour of DVD quality video fer gosh sakes! That's some bad planning Snaake! Somewhere somone told you bigger is better but it's just plain overkill for a 400 meg marquee, now a full to size side art piece could get close to that size I will give ya that.

[SNAAAKE]

Bah, no offense Snaaake, but you should never need such a big file to print a marquee, 400 megs is like billboard size! I am a professional graphic designer, and have never needed a file over say 150 megs max, you just need to choose the right resolution for the final output. for a marquee 300 dpi to size should be fine, like 80 or so megs. As for using a jpeg, just be sure to save any jpeg with very little compression at all and there will be no percieveable artifatcs. But dont listen to him, a 400 meg file is just bad choice of size vs resolution. I get the same stuff from uppitty graphic design "arteests" I call em, who insist every damn thing must be made in quark, an awful, limiting stuck up program. I use photoshop for everything, again, you just need to pick a final output size and match it to a resolution, and 300 dpi for a marquee is more than fine, it will keep crisp lines etc, but it has to me to the exact size of the real deal. 400 megs? 1 gig uncompressed? For an image?!? Holy crap thats an hour of DVD quality video fer gosh sakes! That's some bad planning Snaake! Somewhere somone told you bigger is better but it's just plain overkill for a 400 meg marquee, now a full to size side art piece could get close to that size I will give ya that.

I dont know..

I wanted the thing to look as nice as possible..there is nothing wrong with wanting a nice piece right?

I was kinda worried that it wouldnt look right

[neuromancer]

600 dpi inkjet printers can't make use of 600 pixels per inch. First, they count each of the 4 ink colors as seperate "dots". Second, since they only have 4 colors, you need to make use of a halftone screen (or dithering) in order to trick the eye into seeing more colors.

According to the Photoshop manual, "600 dpi" inkjet printers make use of up to about 150 ppi. If your marquee is 22" wide that's 3300 pixels. Any more than that is just wasted.

22" x 8" x 150^2 dpi x 24bit color = 11.4 Mb for a bitmap. Roughly 1Mb for a .jpg might be fine.

The .jpg algorhythm uses "lossy" compression. If you have a simple marquee (from the eyes of the algorhythm) then it will compress really well. The way to tell what it will look like when printed (more or less) is to open up the file in your software, and zoom in to "actual pixels" or 1:1 or 100% or whatever your software calls it and compare that with the original (at the same size).

You can also put both files into one image, and set the transparency of the one to "multiply", and invert the image, and whatever is left is the compression artifacts.

Bob