WTF is up with LocalArcade???

[Organic Jerk]

Nice to see that bigotry is accepted on this forum, but a likely response is not.

I apologize for the outburst, and I wholeheartedly advocate punishing the bastard who demolished a resource we all know and love.

It's just really messed up that I have (rather recently) joined up to a hobby that accepts bigots who will talk of of their rear about an entire region of people of which they "figured" a member of did the deed, when their assumption is wrong in the first place.

Yeah... a glass parking lot indeed.

Sad.

[Santoro]

I think most of us were were ignoring the rude comments so as to keep the politics out of the main forum per the rules.  I don't think there are many bigots here. Definitely some , not a lot.

[johnm160]

Hacked at 1:25. Fixed now. Currently going after a software update.

OH, and Johnm160....  sorry if I don't rush right out and find the IP address of this lame hacker from some crappy third-world country and fire off a nasty email to his service provider. You got so much free time... you go after this little bastard already.

Edited because I missed a post.....

Nevermind, I see you are ahead of me and banned him already....LOL

[horseboy]

Nice to see that bigotry is accepted on this forum, but a likely response is not.

I apologize for the outburst, and I wholeheartedly advocate punishing the bastard who demolished a resource we all know and love.

It's just really messed up that I have (rather recently) joined up to a hobby that accepts bigots who will talk of of their rear about an entire region of people of which they "figured" a member of did the deed, when their assumption is wrong in the first place.

Yeah... a glass parking lot indeed.

Sad.

I don't see how saying that it was probably someone from a third-world country is bigotry. The fact is that many if not most hackers operate out of third world countries because those countries do not have internet laws or do not enforce them. I think he was just using common sense and other people jumped to a conclusion.

[Santoro]

He was probably taking exception to the 'crappy' part.

[horseboy]

That makes sense. 

[mahuti]

I believe he was referring to the previous post about making the east a parking lot, nothing good coming from the east, etc. My personal comments were tongue-in-cheek, not directed at any specific country or group. Please don't lump me in with bigots & racists. 

Just to clarify my earlier comments... they referred to the fact that many countries have ISPs that wouldn't care about a security violation, therefore it was pointless to try to "go after' the violator. If an ISP doesn't care about the violation, I lump them & their entire country into the pile of CRAPPY and THIRD-WORLD-COUNTRY categories. I don't think that's racism... I think that's nationalism... which is sometimes considered extreme, but not usually immoral.

[ahofle]

It's just really messed up that I have (rather recently) joined up to a hobby that accepts bigots who will talk of of their rear about an entire region of people...

This is just as ridiculous a statement as the one that presumably has you all charged up in the first place.   

[saint]

From the posted forum rules:

6. Don't take it personally if you get edited by an admin or moderator. Things aren't always black and white and sometimes what is or isn't in line with the rules here is simply a judgement call. If your post gets edited but no other comment is made to you, don't stress about it. No one's mad at you or trying to censor your point of view. Just trying to keep it family friendly.

Nice to see that bigotry is accepted on this forum, but a likely response is not.

[torez]

Even if he's flying the Turkish flag and his ip address is from Turkey, it does not mean that he's really in Turkey.  If he's a script kiddie, then more likely so, but even a lame hacker should know to use a chain of free proxies.  Banning the ip should not help too much, as switching to another proxy in another country takes just few seconds.  I can write from US, next I could be writing from China or Australia.  The only way to get rid of him is to have up to date software, so he will get tired of looking for new hacks and will move on to an easier target.  Even if he's gone for a few months, you have no choice but to keep your website up to date.  He may be back one day with his new shiny hack and try to use it on you again.  Anyway, take a look at your logs once in a while to see anything suspicious.

One old trick was to have a dummy website/ftp on your server, so all the hackers would go in to that part like cows on a slaughter.  They would pick some files thinking it's something valuable, but it was just garbage or fake data.  Once they are there, admin would get a notice that someone is in the "room" where nobody was supposed to go to.  They could alter the "fake" website, leave and then call the friends only to find out that nothing got really hacked at all.  

[Organic Jerk]

This is just as ridiculous a statement as the one that presumably has you all charged up in the first place.   

out of*..... it's a typo.   Must be a pretty bad typo if it invalidated the meaning of the entire sentence.  Didn't realize.  Did that help?

From the posted forum rules:

6. Don't take it personally if you get edited by an admin or moderator. Things aren't always black and white and sometimes what is or isn't in line with the rules here is simply a judgement call. If your post gets edited but no other comment is made to you, don't stress about it. No one's mad at you or trying to censor your point of view. Just trying to keep it family friendly.

I understand.  And I agree that the outburst wasn't particularly family friendly, but I don't think having children come to a forum about custom arcades and seeing racial bigotry is family friendly (or appropriate), either.  To say "don't take it personally" when you are the only one edited among a string of ignorance, only because you responded to it, doesn't really allow one's mind much room to "not take it personally."


But whatever.  I'm done.  Sorry I bothered to hold people accountable for what they say/type.  I'm gonna go back to my glass parking lot and lay my sheet on the floor. k?

[patrickl]

I agree that keeping your software up to date is really the only way to keep hackers out. These prefab websites are usually full of bugs. When they get hacked it will be fixed, but if you then don't install that fix you are open for attacks.

One thing that also helps is to remove all mentionings of the version or even of the name of the software you're using. When one of my sites got hacked (php-nuke) I saw that the perp simply found me with a search on google. I tried the search string he used (was in the log files too) and and thousands of others sites came up which he also hacked. For instance, search for "powered by 4images 1.7.1" (with quotes) on google and you'll find a whole list of sites which use this older version that has several reports of sql injection bugs.

[mahuti]

Even if he's flying the Turkish flag and his ip address is from Turkey, it does not mean that he's really in Turkey.  If he's a script kiddie, then more likely so, but even a lame hacker should know to use a chain of free proxies.

Which is why I implied it was pointless to try... but I figured I might as well do my due diligence on keeping him out
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Well, at any rate, it's updated now. There's normally not too  much I can do about keeping the software up to date... sans staying up late overnight or putting in time on the weekend, which isn't so fun, you can imagine. Lately I've had so much work that I didn't get more than a few hours  sleep a night so the AAL has been somewhat low on my priorities list. I LIKE to keep it updated, but I only have so much time for that.

[Stingray]

It's just really messed up that I have (rather recently) joined up to a hobby that accepts bigots who will talk of of their rear about an entire region of people of which they "figured" a member of did the deed, when their assumption is wrong in the first place.

According to your profile you've been registered here since December 2003. If you've been here that long you should know very well that BYOAC is not the hotbed of racism that you want to make it out to be. Who's talking out of their rear now?

-S

[ahofle]

This is just as ridiculous a statement as the one that presumably has you all charged up in the first place.   

out of*..... it's a typo.   Must be a pretty bad typo if it invalidated the meaning of the entire sentence.  Didn't realize.  Did that help?

I realize it was a typo, but you just generalized/smeared the entire arcade hobby as being racists/bigots based on one or two peoples' posts/actions.  If you are going to be a member of the political correctness police you may want to practice what you preach.

[jimmy_bored]

BTW: I love you guys!   

[mahuti]

At least somebody does.

[Organic Jerk]

Well it looks like I can't be done... here we go!

According to your profile you've been registered here since December 2003. If you've been here that long you should know very well that BYOAC is not the hotbed of racism that you want to make it out to be. Who's talking out of their rear now?
-S

I originally registered while in college and was looking for advice on the "Pelican Ultimate Arcade Joystick"...  I wanted to build a cab, but it was way out of my reach.  After that issue, school and work took my time and I never came back until August 2006, when I decided to finally step up and get a cab.

Talking out of my rear?  I dare say my rear is quite clean (at least on that).  Check my posts, kind sir.

I realize it was a typo, but you just generalized/smeared the entire arcade hobby as being racists/bigots based on one or two peoples' posts/actions.  If you are going to be a member of the political correctness police you may want to practice what you preach.

Not true.  Understand the language, please.  To say it's accepted doesn't mean everyone partakes in it.  For example:  Theres this guy we call "Tex" who hangs out with some guys I also hang out with.  Upon finding out he was a horrible racist, I brought this to the attention of my peers, to which they said something along the lines of: "Yeah but he's just racist... he doesnt really do anything."  I don't consider my friends racist at all, but they accept it of him because this particular group has no members besides me who would get offended by the things he says.  Kinda sad, but whatever.

I didn't call everyone racist, and I don't particularly know if the people with the stupid comments are, either. 

But I did take offense at the comments themselves, and due to the actions taken/not taken, the logical conclusion is:  Since the stupidly ignorant comments were not destroyed, they were obviously "accepted."  My response WAS destroyed, because of an "implied" curse... (Which is it's own question, because I DIDNT try to get around the curse filter, and I ACTUALLY just used a smiley in the manner that it seems to be meant for.  ""  Why is this wrong?  I've seen it done here many times.  But alas, everything is objective, no?) 

I'm not a member of the PC Police.  I'm of eastern descent, and I was genuinely offended.  Understand the difference.


And BTW, I do have nothing but love for everyone here.  Yeah sure I'll get worked up about issues, but I come to this great forum for a reason.  There's great people here doing great things, and I don't lose sight of that because of stupid issues.  I'm really not as much of a stiff that everyone may think from my "first impression" on this thread, but this stuff is important to me by the very nature of my birth, and I never have and never will be an "Uncle Tom".

I've already said that I'm pretty much done with this issue, but if people want to continue to argue semantics and technicalities with me, go on ahead.    I'm not the kind of person to deny when I am obviously wrong, but what I feel here is solid, and if possibly finding a complicated hole in my language will make any of you feel better, you're more than welcome to dig in.

[saint]

(Actually, if it had been in the Politics and Religion forum it wouldn't have been removed, I just felt the implied statement was a bit strong for the main forum -- the post I made with the rules was meant to say (but didn't very well) that if sometimes moderation seems random or biased, it's not due to a particular agenda but rather the sheer volume of messages here means I don't catch everything and it really is random at times. Another day I might have moderated it entirely differently.)

Well it looks like I can't be done... here we go!

But I did take offense at the comments themselves, and due to the actions taken/not taken, the logical conclusion is:  Since the stupidly ignorant comments were not destroyed, they were obviously "accepted."  My response WAS destroyed, because of an "implied" curse... (Which is it's own question, because I DIDNT try to get around the curse filter, and I ACTUALLY just used a smiley in the manner that it seems to be meant for.  ""  Why is this wrong?  I've seen it done here many times.  But alas, everything is objective, no?)