"I don't know what to do with them. " hmm, send them here, Ill take em off your hands
"I don't think that you can claim to know everything about optical controllers"
Never claimed that.
"Do you know exactly what optics and electronics are being used?"
Dont want to drag him into it, but Randy believes he does know what the encoder is.
"but also to read the actual brightness of the light received at any moment"
I believe thats a no. The type of optics you are mentioning would be a laser
reading device.. and that wouldnt need any holes at all.. in fact, holes would
create a problem. The older Infered mice type optics are simular in that
way, and are not very accurate in thier reads for such an application.
Laser is relatively new for mice actually. I believe only Logitec has
used this so far, and its expensive in that mouse. Not sure if
its as expensive in standalone hardware.. and also not sure how
far away from an object the laser can accurately read. Which
in the case of an up/down spinner.. could cause some major
problems for accurate reads when it changes focus..
"impossible to get a desireable amount of control out of a specific resolution encoder "
Not so. If one uses a high res encoder, they can also use electronics and
or software to reduce the resolution for games that do not require it.
However, theres no way to ADD resoliton to a very lo resoltion encoder.
The only thing you can do is multiply the values read.. which results in
choppy 'steps'. Which is not really accurate smooth control.
"less prone to backspin than previous controls"
Is NOT indicative of better control. Backspin is usually caused by an
encoder that is TOO sensative for the game being played.
Or, it can be caused from an encoder that is 'mis-aligned'.. such as
a slight wobble.. or poorly cut teeth. Whereas the optic gets
confused by the readings and reverses the direction.
It might also be caused by the actual optic not being capable of
reading pulses fast enough... thus again, it misses a tooth and
thinks directions have changed.
Anyone with better knowledge of this, feel free to correct me.
I have some experience with backspin problems when I made
my own encoders for my first versions of a dual skateboard bearing
spinner. It used a clear encoder that was laser printed. This was
even before oscars products. The things teeth had to be ecactly
perfect in spacing and direction.. and misalignments of the
position of the optics would cause the reverse. As well as if
the encoder wasnt centered and wobbled.
Too fine a tooth.. same thing. Too wide a tooth spacing can
also cause it. Its a very precise thing.. and was very tricky to
pull off. Eventually I realized that it wasnt a good idea to
use hand printed encoders.. and just find a machined encoder
instead.
"best game of Tempest ever"
Such a claim doesnt mean much.. as there is no real comparison here.
Maybe he just finally got better at that game. Maybe he was having a
stroke of luck. Was that only one game? Or did he play 10 games in
a row?
Did he directly compare 10 games in a row with the Apache.. to 10 games
in a row with the GGG spinner?
Did he alternate between the two spinners to see if he could spot any
control accuracy differences?
As for the rest.. Im also entitled to my opinions. If people dont like
them, they dont have to read them
heheh
I merely pointed out that the Apache would benefit from a higher
res encoder and hardware or software reduction for lower res
games.. as well as the addition of Roller switches for longer lifespan.
I think that people take these comments as threats.. thinking that the
company will cease production because of them. This is not the case.
If anything, a company is cappable and may often make revisions to
a product. (esp if theres demand, and or hard competiton.. In which
case, they would NEED to adjust to keep customers) OR, they will
just keep on going with buisness as usual. A comment isnt going to
stop a company because their feelings are hurt.
And while Im not yet at that point where I NEED the spinners for my
new cabinet.. I am closer to that goal, and have been aquireing more
parts.
I was / am.. considering a purchase for this spinner as well
as the GGG spinner.. But would rather the Appache had higher tooth
count. Else, I can just use the original DOT spinner. The original
however.. is a bit poor with friiction.. and is slow and hard to move.
(due to its monster e-clip design which creates too much friction)
This is why this new spinner is a possible better alternative to the
real thing.
If all else fails, I may choose to build my own from a new design. Only
time will tell.
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