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use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« on: April 28, 2006, 07:34:30 pm »
 checked wiki and artwork FAQs but i don't see anything about this.

i have CPO from mamemarquee.com and i don't want to remove the sticky side off the sticker sheet. so here's what i want to do.

put CPO on CP and put plastic sheet overlay on top of it and clamp it down and use flush bit to route flush the CPO to CP.

is that safe for CPO? will it tear it out or is it fine?
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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2006, 09:26:44 pm »
I cut mine by clamping in place, then using an exacto knife to cut it.

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2006, 01:51:52 am »
I cut mine by clamping in place, then using an exacto knife to cut it.

Yes exacto knife!

I think the router may tear it out. Man, thats some serious marquee cutting power!

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2006, 02:31:50 am »

Yes exacto knife!

I think the router may tear it out. Man, thats some serious marquee cutting power!

ummm odd... where did i say maruee?

but all that aside... ok i will use exacto knife (brand new one). i just like using router.
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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2006, 02:39:15 am »
The router will not tear it!  It has such a high revolution rate, it takes it right off.  Using that router will make a nice clean cut.

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2006, 09:08:26 am »

Yes exacto knife!

I think the router may tear it out. Man, thats some serious marquee cutting power!

ummm odd... where did i say maruee?

but all that aside... ok i will use exacto knife (brand new one). i just like using router.

My mistake. I saw mamemarquee, and I was thinking about my marquee which is backlit vinyl, I still think an exacto knife is the way to go. McCoy seems fine with the router.

Do what you want, but let us know how it goes.

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2006, 11:17:00 am »
I'm not knockin' the knife either.  I've had mixed results with an exacto knife in the past on the overlay.  That's why I mentioned the router.  I hate when I give a statement opinion. :banghead:  Makes me look like a  :tool: .

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2006, 11:17:58 am »
I debated this same thing. I guess it would only make sense that you use a new bit as well, so that it is as sharp as possible. Go ahead, try it, and then make a post on the wiki so that you can help others!

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2006, 01:33:44 pm »
I used a flush trim bit on my CPO from mamemarquees.  My router is 1.5 hp (not that powerful). 

I had the CPO between the MDF and the lexan (with the protective covering still on the lexan) when i used the router.  It came out perfect. 

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2006, 04:47:02 pm »
I also used a flush trim router bit on my mamemarquees cpo.It worked great,very smooth cut.I didn't want to stick the cpo on the wood cp top as I recessed the trackball mounting plate and T-nuts I used for the joystick and spinner mounting and I did'nt want them to show through.So I stuck the cpo to a very thin (1/32") sheet of clear mylar,clamped the cpo and plexi panel in place over the cp and used a drill bit big enough to fit the flush trim router bit bearing through and finished off the holes.

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2006, 06:15:13 pm »
 :censored:  :angry: :censored: :angry:

damn it!

i route the edge of cpo and it went nicely but when i tried to route the hole for trackball.

the flush bit ate through the metal part of mounting kit!!!!! I never knew it could eat metal!! now my cpo AND plastic sheet are ruined! i'll have to get a new copy from mamemarqee.com and buy a new plastic sheet and new trackball mount!!!!!  :censored: :censored: :soapbox:

i will take a pic but will not be able to upload it unil i get back to my apt on tue night or wedesday.
p.s. i already emailed scott but haven't heard from him back yet.
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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2006, 06:18:07 pm »
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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2006, 06:36:51 pm »
I also used a flush trim router bit on my mamemarquees cpo.It worked great,very smooth cut.I didn't want to stick the cpo on the wood cp top as I recessed the trackball mounting plate and T-nuts I used for the joystick and spinner mounting and I did'nt want them to show through.So I stuck the cpo to a very thin (1/32") sheet of clear mylar,clamped the cpo and plexi panel in place over the cp and used a drill bit big enough to fit the flush trim router bit bearing through and finished off the holes.

Hi there... sorry to partially hijack this thread, but could you elaborate on the plastic sheet you used to hide the deformities on your CP wood?  I was going to get an overlay from mamemarquees too, but I was afraid my trackball mounting plate imperfections would show through (I ended up not routing it out very level).  How stiff is the mylar?  Where'd you get it etc.  This is exactly what I've been thinking of doing too.

Thx

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2006, 10:50:34 pm »
I was afraid of exactly what happened to bossyman15 with the trackball hole during routing.The problem is the plate is so thin it's too hard to get the router bit bearing to follow it.What I did was use that detachable spacer ring on the happs trackball and temporarily secured it to the bottom side of the trackball mounting plate so there was a thicker edge for the router bit bearing to ride on.I just completed my 2nd cp with this method it it's worked well for me on both.

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2006, 11:17:05 pm »
I was afraid of exactly what happened to bossyman15 with the trackball hole during routing.The problem is the plate is so thin it's too hard to get the router bit bearing to follow it.What I did was use that detachable spacer ring on the happs trackball and temporarily secured it to the bottom side of the trackball mounting plate so there was a thicker edge for the router bit bearing to ride on.I just completed my 2nd cp with this method it it's worked well for me on both.

Ahhh good tip!

See because I now have to get new plastic sheet as well but because my trackball part are already cut out on my wood so no more circle as a guide for routing but with that tip I wil be able to do that (I hope).

Just a quick question... How do you attach that spacer to bottom of mount?
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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2006, 11:31:54 pm »
That is really, really crappy to hear.  I don't really know what else to say.

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Re: use router flush bit to flush cut the CPO?
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2006, 11:50:20 pm »
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Just a quick question... How do you attach that spacer to bottom of mount?
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It was a little tricky but what you do is attach the mounting plate in place,take the spacer off the trackball and lay it in place on the bottom of the trackball plate on the trackball mounting studs.Align the spacer hole and the mounting plate hole.Then you need to use some type of spacer (I used large nuts) to take up that extra length of the mounting studs,then use a screw and large washer to tighten down and secure the spacer in place while you rout.My drawing skills are not the best but here's a rough sketch of what I did.