Ultimate or Super

[bkane]

I apologize if the topic has been covered repeatedly, but I noticed that Happs has a sale on the Super Joystick, making it about $8 (cheaper than the Ultimate 8-way). I intend to build a CP for use solely with Dreamcast (mainly fighting games). I looked at the reviews and comments at ArcadeControls but it seemed sort of inconclusive. Is there any reason why I shouldn't go with the Supers (which normally retail for more than the Ultimates)?

Thanks in advance!

Edit: Or is there another joystick I should be looking at instead of either of those?

[NickC]

I say go with the competitions, I play mostly fighting games, MK, SF series, I ended up buying the competition, oscar controls has a review of the comp, super, and ultimate joysticks

http://www.oscarcontrols.com/joycompare/joyreview1.shtml

[bkane]

Perfect, that was exactly the advice I needed, thanks. I've decided to go with the Competitions (I had thought about them earlier, hence the edit above, but Oscar's review sealed the deal) even though they cost a bit more. A worthy investment in my mind. Thanks again (and Oscar too)!

[CthulhuLuke]

Ooo, I would have gone with the supers, because I've used competitions, and they stick to all the sides too much for me.  I like the smooth motion the supers give me, especially when playing games like Marvel vs Capcom 2 *magneto air combo* or King of Fighters 2002 *all of K9999's moves*  Competition joysticks have this thing where they are sticky in the corners and they don't wear in, but I'm sure it'll be fine.
  -Luke

[JayTea]

Spend the money and get the perfect 360's... It is so nice to get of all the moves off without a hitch in the fighting games. These are the first sticks that I have played with(including ones on original cabinets) that offer 99% effectiveness (according to my rigorous research )  They don't have microswitches either...no clicks!

JT

[Silverwind]

I have four supers and I'm happy with them..  I have not done much MK/SF though.. mostly games like TMNT/Gauntlet/etc

[SONIC]

I recieved my Competetions from Oscars last thuesday, and must say they're the best sticks I have ever used... they're so smooth!!!
With that said, I haven't tried the supers nor the ultimate, but I know the competitions are hellish good!!!

[killr0y]

I have super's myself.. Everyone seems to believe they have a smoother feel to them then the ultimates.  Of course I don't know since I have never used Ultimates.  I don't seem to have a problem doing diagonals or 4-way cardinal directions on it but maybe I'm just not that picky.  

I'm contemplating on getting Oscar's restrictor plates though, just to make it impossible to do diag's on 4-way games.  The only thing is I want to use plexiglas on my CP and I don't know if the pins would crack it if too much pressure is applied to the plates.  Anyone using the restrictor plates w/ plexiglas?

[eightbit]

The only thing is I want to use plexiglas on my CP and I don't know if the pins would crack it if too much pressure is applied to the plates.  Anyone using the restrictor plates w/ plexiglas?

Don't the restrictor plates require base plates? I was under the impression that you couldn't do them on top of plexi.

[OSCAR]

The original restrictor plates did not lend themselves well to installation over wood/plexiglas without a mounting plate.  This was because the pins were straight and only about 1/8" long, thus transmitting any force directly to the plexiglas, which isn't good.

After many requests for this type of installation, I changed the locating pins on the restrictors to a grooved taper style, and made them longer.  These ones work much better now when mounted to wood instead of a mounting plate, but I still wouldn't recommend using restrictors straight into MDF because the holes will elongate in MDF after prolonged use.  If you are using a dense particle board or plywood for your control panel, then you should be okay with the restrictors as long as you make the holes for the pins accurate enough.  There is a downloadable drilling template on the product page for this.

You can see http://www.oscarcontrols.com/customize_hotrod.shtml to see how I installed restrictors on a HotRod without a mounting plate.  Not long ago, the owner of that HotRod emailed me and said that the restrictors were still working great almost a year later.

EDIT -

I forgot to mention... If you drill the holes in the plexi about 1 size larger than required, then the pins won't be in contact with it, and so eliminating the possibily of cracking it by too much force on the restrictors.  This is assuming you are using 1/8" or shallower plexiglas.