AC LINE FILTER and Arcade Monitor

[flyinhi007]

Hello to all of you im glad i signed up i been building a mame and i got a ? of anyone out there who knows, is it necessary to use an AC LINE FILTER such as in bobroberts setup on his page...im trying to connect power to my arcade monitor and i was thinking....cant i just connect it directly to the POWER DISTRIBUTION BLOCK and then to my ISOLATION TRANSFORMER? espeically if my power surge protector already has all that EMI filtering? i cant seem to get a AC line filter anywhere in my town.

And yes i have looked on alot of forums for the past week and no help. Anyone got ideas?

[markrvp]

If the line bringing power to your AC distribution block is plugged into a surge protector with internal line filtering, then it is my understanding you do not need another line filter like the one like in Bob Roberts diagram.

[flyinhi007]

Thanks alot for your input, yeah i think im gonna try im already workin gon it now as we speak....only prob is i got a LOAD part on this emi filter i found that i wanna try out just in case, but im not sure if white is (N) and black is (L) i think thats the way i remeber it.

[markrvp]

Black is hot and white is neutral.

[flyinhi007]

HAY THANKS SO MUCH I GOT MY ARCADE MONITOR UP AND RUNNING FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IM SO EXCITED....only thing left now is to get my control panel all ready and the rest of the cabinet pu ttogether.
 this is so fun when its your first time.

[markrvp]

Congratulations to you.  It really is exciting when you do it the first time (and the second, and the third, and the fourth...).

Praise to you also for doing your research before asking questions as evidenced by your knowlege of Bob Roberts AC wiring diagram.

[fixedpigs]

Black is hot and white is neutral.

oh man...what kind of shenaniganery(yes i made up my own word) is that...?!

is this the way it is with all monitors...and if so...why...?

thanks...

[SirPeale]

oh man...what kind of shenaniganery(yes i made up my own word) is that...?!

is this the way it is with all monitors...and if so...why...?

It's not just monitors, it's all AC electrical appliances.

[fixedpigs]

black = hot...?

everything i have ever dealt with has always had black being neutral/ground...and then either red or white being hot...

that's why i thought it was weird that he was saying black was hot...and even weirder that you are saying that's how it is with all electrical appliances...

[RayB]

black = hot...?

everything i have ever dealt with has always had black being neutral/ground...and then either red or white being hot...

that's why i thought it was weird that he was saying black was hot...and even weirder that you are saying that's how it is with all electrical appliances...

I did a Google search to confirm (because I've seen other posts in this forum that also says white = hot) and what I've found is that

BLACK is hot.
WHITE is neutral.
GREEN is ground.

Sources:
http://www.selfhelpandmore.com/switchoutlet/dryer/dryershowall.htm
http://www.geeks.com/pix/techtips-SEP01-05.htm
http://www.the-home-improvement-web.com/information/how-to/three-way-switch.htm
http://www.islandnet.com/robb/marine.html

The list goes on... The only places I find people saying the opposite is in these forums.

[fixedpigs]

weird...

i just replaced two ceiling lighting fixtures last week where white was clearly hot and black neutral...i touched the black wire and did not get shocked...

plus i had just repaired a shorting out headlight also last week that just had white & black wires...the wire would twist and the light would come on...it was due to the black touching where the white had a split in the sheilding...the white was the only one individually sheilded...which would have me assume it was hot...

very interesting...i have seemed to deal with the nonstandard all this time so far...

edit...
i found this bit of information on the last link provided...

Some confusion exists with wire that is commercially available. For example, 3-conductor AC wiring should have black for the hot wire whereas most DC wiring uses black to indicate ground. To make matters worse, 2-conductor wire often comes in black AND white making it very similar to the 3-conductor AC wiring. AC standards are: hot/black, neutral/white, and safety-ground/green or bare. DC standards are: positive/red or colour coded as to purpose, and negative/black or white. When 2-conductor wire uses both black and white, white is positive and black is negative.


and this from the second link...
Every house I

[RayB]

GEEZ, talk about confusing.