RandyT, question for you about some of your products

[mccoy178]

I plan on having a four player Cp with 20 player buttons, two mouse buttons, four start buttons, and an escape and pause button for a total of 28 buttons.  If I were to get the ice buttons with the rgb board, that would be a total of 84 inputs.  Is that even possible with the ledwiz?  I would need one input for each color and the board only has 32 right?  So would power mame handle something like this?  Is it even feasible?  I don't have a problem going with one color, but the three color is pretty awesome.

[Tiger-Heli]

I'm NOT RandyT, and also NOT the LED-Wiz expert, but it WILL be able to be done.  You may need multiple LED-Wiz's and I don't know how far along the software to talk to them independently is coming along, but I am pretty sure it IS being worked on.

[NoOne=NBA=]

I'm NOT RandyT

That's what you keep telling everyone. 

Just remember, if you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it.

[Tiger-Heli]

I'm NOT RandyT

That's what you keep telling everyone. 

Just remember, if you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it.

Seemed to be MattP's philosophy - OOPS!!!

[NoOne=NBA=]

Seemed to be MattP's philosophy - OOPS!!!

People keep buying his stuff, at ridiculous prices, in spite of its shortcomings.

[Tiger-Heli]

People keep buying his stuff, at ridiculous prices, in spite of its shortcomings.

As you said:

Just remember, if you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it.

Although in his defense, I have read that the current version did finally include diodes on the PCB!!!

[mccoy178]

NEW QUESTION:

I plan on having 24 buttons and Trackball.  If I had two led wiz's, that would be 64 outputs.  I am wondering if the following would be safe and not hurt the RGB or the LEDWiz.  I would have all the outputs commited, and I am wondering if I could have two RGB's connected to the same outputs due to the two pinball buttons being the same as player buttons on the control panel?  So in effect I would have two reds hooked to the same output, two greens to another, and two blues to yet another.  Could the LEDWiz handle this?  If that were possible, it would allow me to have only two LEDWiz's instead of three.  At $45 a pop, any corners that are safe will need to be taken.

NEVERMIND:  Forgot about the pause and escape buttons, so I don't want to sacrifice that much.  Please let me know if the above is possible, as it would help others in the future.

[Toonces]

NEW QUESTION:

I plan on having 24 buttons and Trackball.  If I had two led wiz's, that would be 64 outputs.  I am wondering if the following would be safe and not hurt the RGB or the LEDWiz.  I would have all the outputs commited, and I am wondering if I could have two RGB's connected to the same outputs due to the two pinball buttons being the same as player buttons on the control panel?  So in effect I would have two reds hooked to the same output, two greens to another, and two blues to yet another.  Could the LEDWiz handle this?  If that were possible, it would allow me to have only two LEDWiz's instead of three.  At $45 a pop, any corners that are safe will need to be taken.

NEVERMIND:  Forgot about the pause and escape buttons, so I don't want to sacrifice that much.  Please let me know if the above is possible, as it would help others in the future.

Yes. Completely possible. You can probably go even further than that with just USB power. Seeing that it's going to have a PC with a power supply in the cab, you can always use +5V from a spare HD power connector to power the LEDs. On average, you're talking 20~30ma per LED of current and the max the USB ports on my motherboard will handle is 500ma each. 2 LEDs per port is well within the current limits. I have my player 1 & 2 buttons tied to the same LEDs. I don't know of any games that P1 buttons would be different from P2's so they are wired together. Saves ports. 14 buttons wired 18 ports to P1 & P2 buttons and 6 ports for P1 & P2 start buttons and I have 8 ports left over. Just enough to wedge in 8 joystick LEDs should I decide to add something to indicate the joystick modes. either individual LEDs or maybe a 7 segment LED to actually light numbers. Not sure. No room on the CP is my problem.

Toonces

[mccoy178]

Thanks for the quick reply.

[mccoy178]

Will the Electric Ice buttons and RGB board work with the leaf switch from Ponyboy?

[Kremmit]

Randy has stated that they do not appear to be compatible; based on the pictures he has seen.  The RGBDrive and the leaf bracket will bump into each other.

I don't think anybody has tried to modify one yet.

[RandyT]

Will the Electric Ice buttons and RGB board work with the leaf switch from Ponyboy?

Randy has stated that they do not appear to be compatible; based on the pictures he has seen.  The RGBDrive and the leaf bracket will bump into each other.

I don't think anybody has tried to modify one yet.

Ponyboy has offered to send me one.  I should probably just buy a few from him to play with. 

The RGB-Drive boards rely on the fact that the switches do not use the space directly under the bottom of the button, so that's where they "live".  These leaf assemblies also rely on that area being unoccupied, so you can see the contention.

In order to give stability to the adapter, there are structures at the top and bottom to simulate the width of a microswitch and lock it into the button.  To make it fit with an RGB-Drive, would require the removal of the upper structure, which *might* allow the leaf assembly to "twist" or move out of position.

Then again, a little super glue might do wonders

RandyT

[mccoy178]

Your killin' me Smalls!

Okay, I have a little while before I need to make my button decision.  My ultimate goal is to have RGB's and leaf switched, and I'm not sure if my soldering skills are up to the test of four lines coming from one LED.  I would mount them like the orange buttons in Kneivels thread, but I just don't know.  Is there RGB's that have the appropriate resistors and wiring attached out there in the world?  If so, I would be greatly appreciated as to their location.

[mccoy178]

Looking at that picture it looks as though that leaf switch adaption would only need the normal area a microswitch would be.  I'll shoot Ponyboy a PM and see what he thinks.

[mccoy178]

Upon further review, I can't tell if the holes are a little higher or not.  But it does appear to have the exact same footprint as a microswitch in the area of concern.