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New Product: RGB-Drive
« on: January 20, 2006, 01:39:39 am »
Available Now....


Another GroovyGameGear innovation!

The RGB-Drive
« Last Edit: January 20, 2006, 02:49:15 am by RandyT »

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2006, 02:02:10 am »
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2006, 02:09:28 am »
Please Post more pics?  WIll this work with the LED WIZ I just bought?

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2006, 02:58:44 am »
WIll this work with the LED WIZ I just bought?

Absolutely :)


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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2006, 03:38:11 am »
Can you please show us how it mounts up?

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive™ Pushbutton Lighting Module.
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2006, 07:29:33 am »
Can you please show us how it mounts up?
Yes, that's what I wanted to see too!!!

Awesome Randy - Between this, the LED-Wiz, and the Electric Ice Pushbuttons, you've got a one-stop shop for lighted cab hardware!!!

Thanks for all the hard work and innovation!!!
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2006, 09:26:04 am »
Great work, Randy.  Hopefully I will get some time down the road to update my controller with some of these nice products you have been churning out.   

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2006, 09:35:03 am »
Uuuggggg! Damnit Randy, why didnt you have this when I ordered my Blue Ice buttons last week!! Stop coming out with all this cool easy to use bling bling for cabinets!!

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2006, 10:14:51 am »

You are the devil!

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LOL!

I keep thinking that Randy will stop with the new goodies, then I can order some stuff. So far he hasn't stopped.

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2006, 10:20:50 am »
wow.... Randy....wow.

You are coming out with a TON of awesome stuff lately.  Thanks for all your efforts.
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2006, 11:37:05 am »
Randy-

have you thought about doing Electric ICE leafswitch buttons?

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2006, 11:37:40 am »
How useful would this be with Happ Competition pushbuttons?

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2006, 12:08:58 pm »
How useful would this be with Happ Competition pushbuttons?

You could drill a hole in the Competition buttons and they would illuminate slightly, but you wouldn't get any color out of it other than the color of the button itself. (or maybe a very slight variation such as a blue LED in a white button may looks slightly blue)

Really though.. they won't be much use.  You want to use this with Randy's Electric ICE buttons or the Happ Translucents.
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2006, 12:10:48 pm »
Does it come with thorough instructions?

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2006, 12:37:45 pm »
You are coming out with a TON of awesome stuff lately.  Thanks for all your efforts.
Heh, this is why I haven't bought my ledwiz yet.  Been waiting to see what else he comes out with.
It's like as soon as I am ready to order a new product comes out that I will have to consider.

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2006, 01:48:33 pm »
You are coming out with a TON of awesome stuff lately.  Thanks for all your efforts.
Heh, this is why I haven't bought my ledwiz yet.  Been waiting to see what else he comes out with.
It's like as soon as I am ready to order a new product comes out that I will have to consider.

yeah me too.  Well that and the fact that I just dropped $500 on books for this semester  >:( :'(

I already want a OptiWiz, and at least a few buttons to compare to the translucents.... and I'll have to get a LED Wiz eventually....

Randy.. can I just forward my next paycheck to you?  :P
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2006, 02:10:12 pm »

The more things like this come out, the more tempted I am to update my original cabs with them... a Space Duel with lit buttons would rock.

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2006, 02:13:37 pm »
That's why I say a cabinet is never done. New products will always come out.

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2006, 02:55:01 pm »
I would also like to see pics of the Led mounted to the Button with the Wiring Harness.

And maybe a little demo video?

And then I'm going to need one of each of these new items including the Optiwiz

ooh, what about an OptiKeyWiz combo so it could all be connected with a single USB cable?

Keep it up Randy.

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2006, 09:16:24 pm »
I hear that... I need to see how all this works since I userstand what it does but am too much of a newb to figure out how it works and want to buy it.

Please give us the LED for Dummies tour.

Thanks,
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2006, 11:24:23 pm »
Here's a pic that should give an idea as to where this is installed:


Can't get much cleaner than that :)


If you want to see a simple video of the unit cycling through Red Green and Blue in an Electric ICE
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2006, 11:30:21 pm »
Brilliant!
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2006, 11:49:42 pm »
I'm at about $108 right now.  I think I'll save my allowance and wait til the optiwiz is out of beta to bring it closer to the $200 range. 

At this point I'm almost hoping GGG doesn't come out with more gear.

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive™ Pushbutton Lighting Module.
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2006, 08:46:55 am »
Sweet!!!!! - Too bad I'm not independently wealthy . . .


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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2006, 11:28:55 am »
Very cool.

Is it possible with those RGB LEDs to activate more than one colour at the same time? For example if you switched on red and green would the button light up yellow?

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2006, 11:30:27 am »
Symmetry in video. Zoomed in blurry with slow motion pull out slow turn slow motion push in to blurry zoom.
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this would mean that wach light would eat up 3 channels of the LED wiz, yes?
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive™ Pushbutton Lighting Module.
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2006, 11:40:28 am »
Very cool.

Is it possible with those RGB LEDs to activate more than one colour at the same time? For example if you switched on red and green would the button light up yellow?
Yes, well not more than one color at the same time, but I think RandyT at one time said there were like 50,000 shades by varying the RGB intensity.
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2006, 12:37:56 pm »
Very cool.

Is it possible with those RGB LEDs to activate more than one colour at the same time? For example if you switched on red and green would the button light up yellow?
Yes, well not more than one color at the same time, but I think RandyT at one time said there were like 50,000 shades by varying the RGB intensity.

Actually, with 48 intensity levels, the number is something like 48^3, which is 110,592.  Of course, LED brightness isn't linear and one probably can't perceive the differences in a number of them, but that's the theoretical number.

All I know is that if you want a reddish-orange or a teal or a lime-green button, you can do it. :)

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this would mean that each light would eat up 3 channels of the LED wiz, yes?

Correct.  However, with careful planning you can do the color changing on the important ones.  I would say that would be the first four of each player should be unique and that would use 24 inputs.  The remaining buttons could be a fixed color and shared, so that would take another 3 or so for 27 inputs.  5 left, so one for each player start, and you could share the remaining 3 for the Joystick directionals or dedicate them to a knocker or other devices.

At least that's what I'll be doing (if I can ever find the time)

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*edit*

Forgot to mention....if you don't need all three colors, you don't have to connect them.  Suppose you wanted a particular button to be any shade achievable with only the Red and Blue colors.  This would get you the two primaries and about 2000 shades of red purple and blue.

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2006, 12:54:31 pm »
So just to clarify, the intensity of each of the three primary colours can be changed independently of each other?

If you mix primary colours (assuming it's possible) does the LED become brighter than when only a single primary colour is lit?

Also, can you confirm that a convincing yellow can be produced by the LED? The reason I ask is because yellow is a colour used by several types of console controller for labelling buttons.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2006, 01:29:36 pm »
So just to clarify, the intensity of each of the three primary colours can be changed independently of each other?

Yes.

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If you mix primary colours (assuming it's possible) does the LED become brighter than when only a single primary colour is lit?

Yes.  All three colors full on are the brightest, and comes out as a tinted white.  You will need to experiment to find the shade you like.

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Also, can you confirm that a convincing yellow can be produced by the LED? The reason I ask is because yellow is a colour used by several types of console controller for labelling buttons.

I can easily set up a color that is unmistakable as a nice, warm yellow.

I'd post a picture, but the camera is not doing the color justice.

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How does it work with a Happ translucent?
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2006, 02:02:12 pm »
How does it look with Happ translucents? I'd love to see a short video or even still images.
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2006, 05:23:52 pm »
Ok, back to a simple question...  If I buy one of these with the LED and ribbon cable attached, how do I get it to work like the video?

Thanks...

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive™ Pushbutton Lighting Module.
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2006, 06:11:54 pm »
Ok, back to a simple question...  If I buy one of these with the LED and ribbon cable attached, how do I get it to work like the video?

Thanks...
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2006, 09:02:33 pm »
I was hoping that it was sort of like the joystick, just give it power and watch it color change...


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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2006, 09:20:19 pm »
I was hoping that it was sort of like the joystick, just give it power and watch it color change...



Nope, you'll have to tell the LED what color to change to, at least as far as I can tell.  You can probably get them to light without anything though, but it'd likely be lit at full intensity.
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2006, 09:57:15 pm »
Is it possible to make a smoother transition between the colors? Like a fade in and fade out kinda way? Instead of instantanous change?

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2006, 10:13:18 pm »
Randy,
What is the mcd of the LED?

What does the other end of the ribbon look like? Is it just an end of a cable that we need to strip and connect  to the LW or is it terminated to pins or something?


Gha, this brings up all sorts of ideas. If MikeQ is on I have some questions.
You could actually have your fire button be red, and smart bombs be green and and and...

This does raise the questions about a higher channel LEDWiz? Sorry Randy, still wont let ya sleep.
Most folks are having 6 and 7 buttons per player (on 2 player CPs) This would mean 18 or 21 channles per player meaning 36 or 42 channles total. Then there is the player 1 and 2 buttons.

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2006, 10:17:41 pm »
Is it possible to make a smoother transition between the colors? Like a fade in and fade out kinda way? Instead of instantanous change?

You should be able to set the LED you want to one of the pulse modes with a long hold time.  This is an automatic raising and lowering feature. This should allow smoother changes.

Can anyone vouch for this?
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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2006, 11:10:33 am »
This does raise the questions about a higher channel LEDWiz? Sorry Randy, still wont let ya sleep.
Most folks are having 6 and 7 buttons per player (on 2 player CPs) This would mean 18 or 21 channles per player meaning 36 or 42 channles total. Then there is the player 1 and 2 buttons.

Randy,
Great product!  brings up soooooo many options.

Question for you:  I have a 2 player, 6 button layout, with P1/P2 starts/coins, joystick directionals, etc.  I would like to individually identify ALL the buttons on my CP.  So if I end up with 25 buttons in total (for example), that would require 100 LEDWiz inputs (for full RB control), right?

In the original LEDWiz thread, you mentioned that it might be possible to have multiple LEDWiz's on on PC, all with different device IDs (as you do with GPWiz).  Then split up the lighting controls, with 1 LEDWiz per player, then 1 for misc stuff?

Or would a monster LEDWiz (with 100 inputs) be the way to go?

MikeQ,
Would having multiple LEDWiz greatly increase the complexity of your DLL?

thanks.

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Re: New Product: RGB-Drive
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2006, 11:28:37 pm »
Question for you:  I have a 2 player, 6 button layout, with P1/P2 starts/coins, joystick directionals, etc.  I would like to individually identify ALL the buttons on my CP.  So if I end up with 25 buttons in total (for example), that would require 100 LEDWiz inputs (for full RB control), right?

That would require a lot.  Probably not 100, but at least 85.  The real question is whether or not you would find it necessary have full color control on all buttons.  Of course, if one wanted that, then one wants what one wants :).

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In the original LEDWiz thread, you mentioned that it might be possible to have multiple LEDWiz's on on PC, all with different device IDs (as you do with GPWiz).  Then split up the lighting controls, with 1 LEDWiz per player, then 1 for misc stuff?

This could certainly be done.  I will start looking at what this would entail very shortly.  In theory, it's just a matter of giving each LED-Wiz it's own ID number, assigning a handle to each one and adding commands to to talk to them.  Reality, on the other hand, might have something else in store.

MikeQ has really gone to the mat for the LED-Wiz though, even making it hot-pluggable!  Maybe if he gets bored someone will be able to convince him to expand his excellent DLL for multiple units. ;)  But I'll give the OCX a crack as well.

RandyT