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Author Topic: >>BLACKOUT<< A Year in the life.  (Read 28709 times)

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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 02-22-06 with first major FU
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2006, 11:51:12 pm »
The only thing that shelf is doing is supporting the chassis.  The shelf is bolted to the tube frame up front, so you can saw away anything at the back and it won't hurt the monitor.

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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 02-22-06 with first major FU
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2006, 02:32:27 am »
awesome work man!  that cabinet's really coming along.  I love the hinges on the back door; I haven't seen that before and I need to do that to my dynamo cab cuz it keeps falling out and scaring me when I play. :D

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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 02-22-06 with first major FU
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2006, 08:19:59 am »
After some sleep and some thought... I don't want to saw it but will only if I have to. It would kill any resale value if I ever decided to upgrade to a larger size and go hoz. I am going to halt progress for a couple of days to really re evaluate the set up. I am going to an arcade auction this weekend and I am going to look at a bunch of machines and get some ideas.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 02-22-06 with first major FU
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2006, 10:45:20 am »
I am pissed that the auction this weekends happened to be the weekend my parents are moving.  I wish I could go to Buford HW and hire about 5 mexicanos to do the job for me....

anyways, take some secretive shots of the stuff, I'm thinking this is going to be a good one since this is the last at the lakewood center.  BTW, please see if you can figure out where they are having their next one?

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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 02-22-06 with first major FU
« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2006, 02:46:09 pm »
Hmmm. So you got a shelf mount when you needed universal mount.

Anyways, I don't see a problem with cutting that piece of the frame off.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 03-11-06
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2006, 04:22:11 pm »
Finally,
I took a break from the auction games and decided to work on my cab. It is a beautiful day. Perfect tempature, lotsa sun, and more so...dry. I got a coin door at a local arcade / pin shop. they guy said that if I pulled it, I could have it for $15. It was a pain in the butt to get it out as there was no way to open the back and I could not see what I was doing. But after a lot of trying, I finally got it. $15 for a over under. That is awesome.

Today I installed the keylock for the back door of the cab. I drilled out the innitial hole, then routed the rest. Routing at a 90 degree angle is no fun. Looking back, I should have taken the door off and then routed out the lock hole. But it went fine. The hardest part was figuring out the little gizmo on the lock that determines which direction it turns. Then I routed out the the hold for the coin door. This was pretty darn easy.
 
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-01-06
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2006, 10:27:04 am »
Well a few weeks ago, I got some work done and on the same day I got a call that my grandfather passed away. :(
I had to give up the progress for a week (for good reason). So now I am back and updating this thing.
Death puts a wierd spin on everything. Actually I had no real interest in working on this thing when I got back. It has taken me about a week to get back into the swing of things.
Ok I started my CP. It is going ot be 32 in wide and 12 in deep. I put the side rails on the sides rather than on the inside of the front and rear. I decided that I wanted to put t-molding on the rails. there is a 1 in drop from the back to the front. It is a comfortable angle.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-01-06
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2006, 10:53:41 am »
The cp top was an item of discussion a while back. I decided to take a go at routing my CP top down to 5/8 as I can not find any anywhere around here and believe me I have checked a lot of places. People just look at me like I am crazy.
so below was the true realization that routing the 3/4 down to 5/8 is a bad idea. Well perhaps not a bad idea, but not a good idea. So the next idea was to glue a 1/8 in piece of hard board to a 1/2 in piece of MDF. This also is a bad idea as the hard board has too much flex and will not lay down. I put a half a ton of glue down on the hardboard as it had a trxture and I wanted to fill in all the little divits. I brushed it so the glue would be even. I put the MDF board down on the hard board. I noticed very quickly that the edges of the hard board would not lay down. I grabbed every heavy object I could find in the garage. This made the problem worse as now it warpped all over the place.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-01-06
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2006, 11:09:10 am »
Sorry to hear about your loss.  We often have a very special bond with our grandparents.




As for your CP building adventure, I am laughing with you and not at you.  ;D   Or should we cry? :'(

What do you plan to do?  If it were me, I would get some 1/2" plywood and 1/4" Lexan.  That way you have the Lexan cover and it all matches up for 3/4" T-molding around the edges.  I feel confident the 1/2" wood will be strong enough.

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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-01-06
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2006, 11:11:29 am »
Reluctantly I gave in a decided to build my CP top out of 3/4 in MDF. This really hoses my idea of using plexi on top of my CP. I am going to use GGG Electric blue t molding. It would look dumb to have the CP top in black as that seems to be the only color you can get 13/16 tmolding.

I had another thought (yes it hurt). I could sand a slight bevel from the edge all the way around and still use 3/4 in tmolding. being that it is under the CP, you would not see it.

The picture is not all that great as I had to use my phone camera. (My wife has the good one and she is in Peru right now. :P)

The top tapers in by 1 inch on each side.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-01-06
« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2006, 11:20:31 am »
I have been playing around with how I want to paint on this thing. I want the sides to be consistant with the CP top. Just for grins I toop the CP top design and threw it on the sides in a rough mock up in photoshop just to see if I like it. I LOVE it. I think that I will need to scale a few things differently. I will leave out the side bracket and squish the sircle thing so it is horizontally longer and vertically thinner. I think that this thing will rock if I can pull off that paint job. I will need to make a stencil but it is not very difficult as far as shapes n such.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-01-06
« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2006, 11:28:03 am »
Sorry to hear about your loss.  We often have a very special bond with our grandparents.

What do you plan to do?  If it were me, I would get some 1/2" plywood and 1/4" Lexan.  That way you have the Lexan cover and it all matches up for 3/4" T-molding around the edges.  I feel confident the 1/2" wood will be strong enough.
Thanks Mark. I am using 2 - 49 ways and already am going to have to route into the CP top just under 1/4 in for the joys as they are so deep, plus I have a track ball (3 in) and will need to route out for that. I am worried that just 1/2 may not be strong enough.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-01-06
« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2006, 11:43:50 am »
I'm sorry for your loss. Just two weeks ago I went to the 4th year memorial of my grandfather. I know the feeling.

And on a completely different note, I guess everything happens for a reason, and that mess you had with your cp, was just such a thing. The path you chose would probably br better.
Anyway, your cab looks great. keep it up.

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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-21-06
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2006, 10:24:44 pm »
Well,
I havn't posted for a while. Between work and kids and building blah blah blah...

I also spent some time getting my new centipede a littled niced up. I had to rebuild a portion of it with bondo. The part that juts out of the body of the game right at the CP had serious water damage and had to come out. The t molding fortunatly stayed in place so I used it as a bondo guide. Worked great. Now I return you back to our normally scheduled program.
 
So Here is some catch up pix. I finally got moving on my speaker board. To help get it in place I cut the to be a tight fit. Can't take credit for the exactness of the cut, it just happened that way. I catch a break now and then. I used my rubber mallet to pound it into place and angle. I then glued some pieces behind it to the cab body. Then I trimmed off some of the wood so it would fit easier and then screwed it to the wood blocks I had glued inside. Clear as mud?

I also put up the marquee light board. Nuthin much to say bout that. Jus did it, tsall.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-21-06
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2006, 10:34:07 pm »
I then went after one of the parts that I have been dreading for quite some time. The Bezel set up. This actually went much easier than I thought that it would. Either I am getting beter at this stuff or God happened to give his blessing that day. I used the monitor brace as a guide. I cut 2 boards to the height that I thought that the bezel should be. I then used those 2 boards to hold the bezel rails in place. I glued them in and after it had dried, eagerly put the bezel and glass in to see how it would look. The board was too low. So, I cut some very thin strips of mdf (somewhere between 1/16 and 1/8) thick. I glued them to the curent bezel rails. Still to low. So I added another set of strips and this time it was right. Whoopee!. Now I had to figure out how to keep the bezel and glass from slipping out. So I used another piece of angled aluminum. This stuff is great. It is easy to work with and strong. Not to mention cheap.
 
Just for artsy fartsy stuff check out the top picture. I love how you can see the reflection of the top of the cab in the glass... Oh never mind.  :P
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-21-06
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2006, 10:40:20 pm »
Now I am working on the CP. So many crucial choices. Crap, what is a guy supposed to do?!?
I have also got the computer going with the Arcade VGA board. This was a nightmare to get set up. It finally took a call from Andy. It was 12 am in the UK. Completly not the voice I expected from him. Cool guy though. We had to force windows to load the drivers. It was rejecting them every way I tried. We thought it was a bad board innitially. After we fought with it for a while we got it going. Thanks again Andy if you are reading this.  :cheers:

BTW here is my test bench for my cab and monitor. I figured that the air hockey table was as good of place as any.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-01-06
« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2006, 08:16:05 am »
I love air hockey.  We had a table when I was a kid.

Hey, what are you using as screw supports? I don't kow if that's the right term. They look like two 1x2s glued together.  Is that right? 

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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-01-06
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2006, 10:54:18 am »
Wow, love the routing job you did Myx! The cabinet is looking beautiful. :)

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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-21-06
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2006, 12:11:15 pm »
I love air hockey.  We had a table when I was a kid.

Hey, what are you using as screw supports? I don't kow if that's the right term. They look like two 1x2s glued together.  Is that right? 
I glued two pieces of MDF together and clamped em. Then cut the pieces to size. The intent is to put t-nuts in place. I just have to find a source.
Wow, love the routing job you did Myx! The cabinet is looking beautiful. :)
Thanks Psychopanda. Gosh that felt wierd to say. Sounds like something you would hear in a 60's movie. Thanks Psychopanda.   ;D
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-21-06
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2006, 12:29:30 pm »
Why not stick with your original plan of routing a 3/4" piece of wood down to 5/8" but instead of routing all of the wood's surface just route the visible area near the edge.
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-21-06
« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2006, 12:43:13 pm »
Why not stick with your original plan of routing a 3/4" piece of wood down to 5/8" but instead of routing all of the wood's surface just route the visible area near the edge.

On the underside correct? Hmmmm That might work quite well. Thank you. I would probably go and get a smooth rounded groove cutter type router bit to gradiate the lower area to the higher area smoothly. 
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Re: MYX Machine Updated w New Pix 04-22-06
« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2006, 11:25:28 pm »
I am now starting to work on the marquee and tryin to come up with a name for this thing. I had initially made one (see below) that I was working with. (Made in Photoshop). Then I made my CP graphics, which really set the tone for this thing. So I am ditching the original marquee design (plus I no longer want to go with the MAME name) not that there is anything wrong with it, just not what I want. I really like Flashback but it has been used in a variety of flavors. But I do like it. I do not want anything that says cade or rama or anything like that.
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Re: MYX Machine UDWP 04-24-06
« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2006, 08:52:23 am »
I got to work on the CP yesterday. After measuring, drawing, realising that there is 3/4 in of MDF where the track ball was, erasing, redrawing, I finally was able to start routing. First I hit the area for the trackball. I drilled some holes for the screws and the TB screw sockets to make sure that when it was flat all would be cool. After the fact I thought of a bunch of better ways I could have done this. Oh well, it still got done easily. Then I started on the joystick routing. For what ever reason (ADD) I lost my mind while routing and went a little over 1/2 inch out of the line. on the player 2 Joystick. I just sat there staring at a heap of sawdust and a huge groove that ought not be there. So, I finished routing the space that should have been routed. I then did P1 without the extra bits. I tried to fix the issue with wood filler. The more I work with this stuff, the more I dislike it. It seems to shrink. After an hour of drying and shrinking, I got a screwdriver and broke it (the wood filler) out of the evil groove. I then got some bondo (gosh I love this stuff) and filled the hole. Within  several minutes I had a filled hole. This morning I went down and sanded it. Tonight I will be drilling button Holes.
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Re: MYX Machine UDWP 04-24-06... >>Cab Name Help still Needed<<
« Reply #63 on: April 24, 2006, 08:54:00 am »
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Re: MYX Machine UDWP 05-01-06 (Primmer Stage)
« Reply #64 on: May 01, 2006, 08:38:55 am »
Ok well I have now started into the paint stage of the game. Wow, what a long strange trip its been. I did the CP top with spray as it would be covered up anyway. I wanted to see what the difference would be with spray vs. foam roller. Frankly I am a little worried as I planned to use the foam roller for the majority of my cab. I poured a good portion of primer into my pan and started rolling the sides. 2 things that struck my were how thick the paint was and how not smooth the application was. I am going to finish the first layer of prime then sand. I am hoping that this is a primer thing and the paint will go on smoother. Oh and being that I live in Georgia (pollen capitol of the World and Canada), I decided to make a makeshift paint booth. This way I can keep sawdist and pollen out (sort of) and paint fumes in (sort of). Seemed like a good idea and seems to be working (sort of).
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Re: MYX Machine UDWP 05-01-06 (Primmer Stage)
« Reply #65 on: May 01, 2006, 08:44:26 am »
Here is a stealth picture of me painting and a somewhat primed picture.
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Re: MYX Machine UDWP 05-06-06 Artwork Tweaks
« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2006, 10:02:40 pm »
Worked on the second coat of primer today. (Sanded it yesterday). This thing that struck me today is how nice the primer was to work with. It felt much more smooth and not so thick. I thing I might have gotten a bum can of primer or something. anyway it went well.

Tonight I started zeroing in on the art. Since the CP has already been shaped and drilled I modded the CP art to match. I had originally used CPDesigner to lay this out. I then took that and mad the original artwork. When I went to start drilling and shaping I had a real scale thing to work with and visualize with. so my layout changed somewhat. So tonight I put into Photoshop what my actual panel is. Now I am not sure if my original design will work. I am still tinking with it though. I am definatly going to be using this color scheme with this type of design, I just may have to change it a bit.

So, below is my updated art  and a second one with the stuff on it.
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" Marquee Almost Done...Comments?
« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2006, 11:30:05 pm »
I spent the past 2 nights working on this. I think that this is where I am settled on, but would like your comments.
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" Marquee Almost Done...Comments?
« Reply #68 on: May 26, 2006, 11:11:54 am »
Hmm, I like the first one "with flares". The blue lines bug me a little though, not alot but just a little. Have you tried some different line colors just to see.

Overall it's a very impressive marquee design.  :)

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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" Marquee Almost Done...Comments?
« Reply #69 on: May 26, 2006, 11:29:47 am »
That side-art in Photoshop looks cool.

Of the marquees, I like them in order - the bottom one best, the middle second, the top least.

They're all really cool, though!
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" Marquee Almost Done...Comments?
« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2006, 06:39:01 pm »
I agree with Tiger-Hele.  I like the bottom one the most.

Very cool font.  What is it?

The style of the marquee does not match the 80's Williams side art.  I wonder if you could jazz up the side art to better go with the marquee, keeping with the same color scheme.  You could also simplify the marquee to match the side art, but I prefer the feel of the marquee style.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" Marquee Almost Done...Comments?
« Reply #71 on: May 26, 2006, 08:11:05 pm »
I started with the same style as the CP and sides. It just did not groove with the title BLACKOUT. I finally got rid of the red/orange bars. I am not necessarily liking the blue lines at the botom either. I had it on the CP and the side art so I felt that it should somehow play into the marquee as well. The side art will be a custom stencil that I will be cutting. It would be near impossible to do the marquee. (Computer artist by day...Moron with a spray can at night). I had tried a crome outline, but I eventually scrapped it as I like the stark blackness. 
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" Marquee Almost Done...Comments?
« Reply #72 on: May 27, 2006, 01:35:09 am »
I'm loving this cabinet! Good work MYX.

As for the marquee... am I the only one who has a hard time reading it? I love the name blackout - I like the song by Head PE too. I also like the color scheme. I think it's the K thats throwing me off.

It may not be an issue for you, but at my house a lot of people play the arcade game. I have a small mame logo and I have to explain to non-gamers what it is a lot. If I could go back and do it over again - I wouldn't have the logo. So, I'd make sure it's readable to everyone so you don't have to explain what it says to everyone. On the other hand, it's your cabinet and you can do what you want.

Either way... it's looking great!

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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" Marquee Almost Done...Comments?
« Reply #73 on: May 28, 2006, 04:47:29 pm »
Well, if you're gonna go and throw "Blackout" up there, there's really only one thing you HAVE to add to it.
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" Marquee Almost Done...Comments?
« Reply #74 on: May 31, 2006, 10:11:26 pm »
Well, if you're gonna go and throw "Blackout" up there, there's really only one thing you HAVE to add to it.
yeah, poor mr. Schenker. That forking accident almost cost him his forking career.

I'm loving this cabinet! Good work MYX.

As for the marquee... am I the only one who has a hard time reading it? I love the name blackout - I like the song by Head PE too. I also like the color scheme. I think it's the K thats throwing me off.
Yeah I was going to put it up and see if it was just me. Yeah the K is bothering me too. It is a font. I have thought about retooling the K but I can not see how to keep the joystick knob themed letters and have K as well. I will play with my joystick :P and come back with more ideas.
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" >>TRAGEDY STRIKES<<
« Reply #75 on: June 03, 2006, 07:45:42 pm »
So I got to do some work on my cab. I painted it black. I then sanded it. Paint sure does go on nicer than primer.
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" >>TRAGEDY STRIKES<<
« Reply #76 on: June 03, 2006, 08:00:42 pm »
So I fully sanded the thing and put in my heat vent. All was going well. Too well...(Drama thrown in for effect)
So I fully dusted it and got the floor swept and all dust gone in my little paint booth. I was set to do my final coat of black. I decided to put the cab up on saw horses so I could get more of it at eye level. I leaned it back and set the top on one saw horse. I had it turned narrow so it would not flip backwards and over. I lifted the bottom with the other saw horse infront of me so I could push it into place with my foot when I got it lifted. I have done this several times without issue. BUT! Apparently paint makes surfaces very slick and I was not ready for this. The whole thing slipped right off the sawhorse and went crashing onto the floor (slow motion of the side and the top vibrating apart and another board flying away). After a scream and a violent throwing of my closest sawhorse, I walked out of the garage with a sick stomach and nearly in tears. (Sorry if that is just not manly). I have been working on that SOB for 5 full months now. I could not go in to see the tru extent of the damage for a little while. I finally got my nerve up. The left side of the cabinet for the most hurts. The top was glued into a channel (see early posts in the thread). The wood split straight up to the top. So the side rail has the slot for t-molding the about 1/8th of wood then the split. Front to back. Completely seperated at the top. The board that was to hold the Flouressent light completely was gone. Near the back of the cab in the top left rear corner was severly dented in causing the MDF to seperate into sheets. There is many other places that have stress fractures too.   :cry:
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" >>TRAGEDY STRIKES<<
« Reply #77 on: June 03, 2006, 08:25:46 pm »
Ok so after pulling myself back together I started gluing the leafs of MDF back together. I figured that it would be better to start with rebuilding strength before trying to re-attach the top, back and side. I spread the leaves apart and put as much glue in there as I could get. I clamped it hard. After about a half hour I drenched the cravass with glue all the way from the front to the back. I used a paint mixer stick to spread the glue so both sides were solidly covered. I then clamped with 36 in clamps at the very front and very back. slowly I tightened the clamps and brought the top, and back together with the side. I put flathead screwdrivers into the t-molding and then clamped the full 3/4 in. This way pressure could be put asross the whole piece. I then spent the next 15 minutes wiping up glue drippings.
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" >>TRAGEDY STRIKES<<
« Reply #78 on: June 03, 2006, 08:29:51 pm »
Down on the left side on the corner that will support the CP, that MDF has split but it is still tight. I am trying to decide if I want to split it further and reglue it or to leave it as is and just t-mold it. If I do not split it, it will always be weak. 
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Re: MYX Machine "BLACKOUT" >>TRAGEDY STRIKES<<
« Reply #79 on: June 03, 2006, 08:38:52 pm »
On a different note, I worked sumore on the marquee (seeing as I WASN'T PAINTING  >:().
I was playing around with different colors. I really like the blue direction.
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