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Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« on: December 06, 2005, 08:54:52 pm »
I wonder how many folks will fall for this one?

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2005, 09:07:28 pm »
That is very clever....
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2005, 09:15:46 pm »
He says "Up for auction is this second very clean Defender 3-board set."

He means "Up for auction is this second very clean Defender, 3-board set."

 ;)

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2005, 09:37:48 pm »
He says "Up for auction is this second very clean Defender 3-board set."

He means "Up for auction is this second very clean Defender, 3-board set."

 ;)


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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2005, 09:43:52 pm »

This book became a best-seller, yet... there are SO many people who still need it!

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2005, 10:36:43 pm »
Dude... believe anything?? you can check Defender 3 out here at Klov

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=D&game_id=7547]

It's a crazy game. There's also a reference to it at The Games that Times forgot at cinemarcade
http://www.cinemarcade.com/TGTTF/gametime48.html

Anyway, I haven't had time to dump the game. It's pretty rare, but I can't imagine there would be much interest in it if I did.
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2005, 10:40:28 pm »
Make sure you checkout the gameplay video at The Games that Times Forgot above. It's crazy.
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2005, 11:04:33 pm »
Make sure you checkout the gameplay video at The Games that Times Forgot above. It's crazy.

LOL  I had never seen the video before.  That's good stuff, mahuti
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2005, 11:08:43 pm »
OMFG that is funny


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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2005, 11:51:35 pm »
Yeah, it's funny, but it's super hard to play. After my dad found it in his garage we tried to play it. Took us a while to figure out that it was actually working. It's so difficult that it looks like a bunch of wayward sprites are all over the screen... but turns out that's just the gameplay. It's kind of a collectors item, but even by modern stadards the gameplay is just too complex, so I've yet to find any buyers.
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2005, 12:09:01 am »
No, Money Down!

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2005, 12:12:22 am »
Dude... believe anything?? you can check Defender 3 out here at Klov

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=D&game_id=7547]


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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2005, 12:25:54 pm »
Hey, the same seller has a Robotron 3 board PCB Set
up for auction!
Love to see the video for that one :) :) :)

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2005, 12:56:05 pm »
Hey, the same seller has a Robotron 3 board PCB Set
up for auction!
Love to see the video for that one :) :) :)


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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2005, 01:02:07 pm »
Its nice that the only known video of Defender 3 is FINALLY getting exposure. We've been trying to get the word out for the last few years since we found the board. Maybe NOW the mamedevs will actually want me to send the working board to them to get dumped. I think the public reaction for access to such a rare rom would be to great, though and they're afraid of the swamp of rom requests they would receive.
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2005, 01:28:04 pm »
Geez, Defender was hard enough.  I still haven't cleared the second level.

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2005, 01:36:38 pm »
Damn, that is too funny.

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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2005, 05:43:54 pm »
I laugh every time I see that. Especially since that's basically how I play defender 1.
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2005, 01:12:56 am »
You know, there was a third sequel to Defender, after Stargate:
http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9845&letter=S

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2005, 05:37:29 am »
Dude... believe anything?? you can check Defender 3 out here at Klov

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=D&game_id=7547]




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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2005, 10:20:25 am »
No, Strikeforce was the 4th in the sequence. Since Defender 3 was never released... people just think of Strikeforce as the 3rd in the series. The KLOV link that I posted above has them all in the correct order.
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2005, 04:14:33 pm »
strikeforce is fun , i would love to get a copy of d3
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2005, 04:48:19 pm »
Someone should try requesting the rom for it over at mame.net.  :P

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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2005, 04:55:28 pm »

I think we should start an X-Prize type contest.  First one to program a fully functional D3 ROM playable on Mame gets the loot.

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2005, 10:06:56 pm »
Geez, Defender was hard enough.  I still haven't cleared the second level.

2nd level?! You some kind of prodigy fancy boy?  Im still at the 1st.

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« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2005, 11:01:20 pm »
I was amazed.. I actually got on the default high scores page a few times.
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2005, 11:12:55 pm »
Wait a sec -- I thought the Defender 3 thing was a joke -- is it real? I do not see it listed when I go to KLOV. Are you guys perpetuating a joke or what? Call me Mr. Gullible if I am falling for something ridiculous...

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2005, 12:42:51 am »
Call me Mr. Gullible if I am falling for something ridiculous...

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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2005, 01:40:43 pm »
lol i thought so...


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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2005, 03:59:21 pm »
How can Strike Force be a sequel since it was made by Midway, and Defender and "Stargate... DEFENDER!!" were made by Williams?

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2005, 04:38:01 pm »
There's a whole world of prototypes and partially implemented concepts that didn't make it into production (the military Battlezone, the Marble Madness sequel, etc...). I was privy to see a boardset and some sketch drawings of sideart concepts for Defender III, but have never seen it actually put together and working. As I recall the op told me it didn't see the light of day because they decided it was too dang hard.

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2005, 09:13:33 am »
How can Strike Force be a sequel since it was made by Midway, and Defender and "Stargate... DEFENDER!!" were made by Williams?

I don't know if you are playing along with the joke theme of this thread or asking a legitimate question, but either way...

Midway, Williams -- six of one, a half dozen of the other. You can read all about the connections between Bally, Midway and Williams here.

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2005, 12:06:36 pm »
Right EricTrumpet, Defender 3 isn't a REAL game, because it was never released to the public. It's only a myth that it was realeased... it was never released. The only known prototype unit is the one I have sitting in my garage, and it's never been dumped. 

Some of the chips on my board are looking a little rough so it's probably time to get it dumped or it might be lost forever. Nobody on the MAME team has stepped up to dump the board after I've sent it around to a few people, so I'm going to dump it myself. I bought a rom dumper online yesterday so I'll see what I can do to get it emulated.
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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2005, 02:24:52 pm »
Okay so I have often wondered how "regular people" (that is, not freaky skills gaming gods) do in Defender -- talking about the original coin-op game, with proper controls (no left-right joystick, no autofire or any other cheat).

When I read about tricks like purposely shooting all your humanoids except one, which you then allow to be lifted so you can kill his captor and then carry him around with you for level after level, I am amazed at the skill it would take to pull off such a trick. I can fairly reliably get to the humanoid replacement level (level 5 i guess it is, or is it 6? not sure), but I still have a lot to learn and every once in a while I get pummeled and lose all my lives on level 2 :)

So... what do MOST people get in Defender? My high score is in the 60Ks, 65K or something like that. Am I still a Defender newbie? Or can I kick the average Defender players ass? I have no idea. No frame of reference. I do not know anyone personally who has the motivation to truly excel at the game. So I am kinda alone in "Defenderland."

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Re: Defender 3 -- some people believe anything
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2005, 04:00:45 pm »
I would say you are above average, but not out of this world. 

I, on the other hand, am way below average and have gotten very frustrated trying to get better at this game.