OT: Thank GOD A PAYPAL ALTERNATIVE!!!

[melidian]

and people can call a 1-800 number to pay you.
paypal sucks

https://www.easypay80.com/index.php



***if you had a referral link in your personal sig thats fine, but as a main link directing folks; keep the personal stuff out***

[hypernova]

paypal sucks

i'm new to this comment...care to elaborate why?  can't just attack someone without stating valid reasons now.

[NJDevils2006]

http://www.paypalwarning.com/

theres 100,000 reasons for you. 

I will never use PAYPAL again, i too had a BAD experience. 

[melidian]

or paypalsucks.com

how many times can they freeze my account for no reason just so i can fax them a copy of my id 400 times and they collect interest on my large frozen balance

[nullb0y]

heh anyone who files a complaint gets thwere damn  money from me but i never get my $$ wtf?

[NJDevils2006]

they are currently holding over $1100 of mine since July.  I keep faxing them more info, and then they lose it or want something else.

[unix4hire]

I have never met anyone that has had a problem with paypal other than the usual disgruntle-ness about the fees *knock on wood*.  easypay80 has higher fees per transaction and worse, charges a fee to simply transfer the funds electronically into your checking account.  So, to get the best deal out of it you'd be wise to just use it exclusively for online transactions without ever wanting to redeposit the funds back into your checking account.  That is, if fees are important to you.

[nullb0y]

has anyone ever used bidpay? i keep seeing them im not shure wehat kind of fees they charge. there website isnt to clear on that

[Kremmit]

Bidpay got bought by Western Union, and is no longer a real online payment system.  Instead, Western Union charges your credit card and then mails a Western Union money order to the person you're paying.  They charge a fat fee, too- especially when you consider that it's the same service you get at the US Post Office.  The only advantage I can see to Bidpay is that you don't have to actually GO to the Post Office, you can do it from home.

[nullb0y]

gah guess im stuck with paypal im gonna keep it safe and remove my funds regularly

[melidian]

i've never met anyone who hasn't had some sort of problem with paypal...how could sites like paypalwarning.com and paypalsucks.com have so many horror stories and so many lawsuits?  definitely empty your account whenever you can!!!

[Level42]

Mmmm, I only use Paypal to pay and haven't had any problems. Honestly, it's not exactly on a daily basis, but the times I needed it, it worked fine. Its especialy handy for buying stuff in the US and paying from Europe. The alternative would be paying through banks which would cost a lot more.

[Jabba]

Mmmm, I only use Paypal to pay and haven't had any problems. Honestly, it's not exactly on a daily basis, but the times I needed it, it worked fine. Its especialy handy for buying stuff in the US and paying from Europe. The alternative would be paying through banks which would cost a lot more.

Me too. I've only ever used it for paying things. I've never had to use it other than this way and I've never had a problem. Its hooked to my CC, so if someone scams me, I can get it back through the insurance.

Only one seller so far has refused me paying them by Paypal and wanted a snail mail check. I told him I'd pay the service fee but no, he wanted a paper check instead. I sent the check about a month ago from Canada to the US and JUST now the seller is gonna send me my stuff because the check just cleared!

I prefer paypal for this exact reason. Its clean, its easy for buyers. Maybe not so for sellers though...

[Xphile]

and people can call a 1-800 number to pay you.
paypal sucks

https://www.easypay80.com/register.php

I thought you can't use referal links like that..

oh,btw...look at these fees. I thought paypal sucked, this one blows.
Looks ok if you only send money, but at these fees no one will accept your
payment, I know I wont. Let me see...thats $1.80 fee to accept a $10
payment. But on the good side maybe you get to talk with someone from
India or the philipines (live operator)
 (and that's where our phone companies' call centre is going..)

"From Transactions: 5.5% plus $1.25 cents (To cover phone charges and live operator expenses)"

[NIVO]

link adjusted in post above. Please keep personal ref links in sig only.

[JustMichael]

and people can call a 1-800 number to pay you.
paypal sucks

https://www.easypay80.com/index.php

Melidian, let me get this straight.  You want us to give our credit card number or bank account number to a site that was just registered with GoDaddy at the end of last September (2005) and doesn't even give a real email address in their "whois" info?

[pointdablame]

and people can call a 1-800 number to pay you.
paypal sucks

https://www.easypay80.com/index.php

Melidian, let me get this straight.  You want us to give our credit card number or bank account number to a site that was just registered with GoDaddy at the end of last September (2005) and doesn't even give a real email address in their "whois" info?

and he wanted us to do so under his personal referral link.

[quarterback]

And they're soliciting for investors in their company.  http://www.easypay80.com/invest.htm

And they refuse to reveal their identities because they are (in their own words) "involved in lawsuits against StormPay and 2checkout respectively"

PT Barnum was right...

[melidian]

oh sorry about the link...and i should clarify that i use paypal to get paid and that's where the trouble usually starts.  i found out about easypay at paypalwarning.com and in my fit of rage at my frozen paypal account i posted here.  i hadn't even looked at the fees thoroughly.
anyway, i just got approved for my merchant account so i'm going legit

[RayB]

Alot of that info on PayPalsucks is really outdated. For exmaple the front page has a prominent headline regarding a lawsuit. Yeah, that's really eye-catching. but click through and you find out the suit was SETTLED IN SEPTEMBER 2004.

Paypal used to suck alot. Now they suck a little.

They have taken steps to rectify some of the issues. They've been bought out by Ebay. Changes occurred adfter that.

Sorry, but they would have to complete revise their site so that irrelevant rantings got posted to some archive.

The fact remains that you can't protect both buyers AND sellers without some people getting caught in the middle. That's just how it goes. If they offered full buyer protection, like a crredit card like Visa does, then the Sellers would be raped with way higher fees and require the equivalent of a merchant account. You can't have it both ways people. Either you want the slightly cheaper option (PayPal) or you go full out with a real CC merchant account.

[hypernova]

it looks as though some of those are at the fault of the user.

[Mr. Bubblehead]

I've been using PayPal for years and never had a problem.

[RayB]

I've been using PayPal for years and never had a problem.

Me neither, but then I'm not a power seller. I've never had more than $400 balance. I can understand the anger at having a grand or more frozen, or charges reversed unfairly... But I'm sure sellers get screwed in many other ways.


Canadians have this wonderful service called Interac Email transfers. Interac is a large (biggest?) bank transaction company here, providing the services behind our ABM machines. Well now they let people "email" transfers ( http://www.certapay.com/ ) and the cost? Same cost as using an ABM machine: $1.50

[HaRuMaN]

I've been using PayPal for years and never had a problem.

ditto

[pointdablame]

I've had one or two problems with PayPal.  One required a few months of back and forth for me to get some money back.

I still use it though.  The thing is, PayPal has quickly become THE payment method in a lot of the online world.  If a site does not have a credit card system in place, it probably takes paypal.  Even if it DOES have a CC system, there is a good chance it has PayPal.

The problem with this new site is lack of info.  If you bought something from me and told me that I had to sign up on some site i've never heard of to get my money, you'd be damn sure that deal wouldn't go through.

PayPal has become, like it or not, a standard in the online payment world.  You either need to use it and accept its shortcomings and potential problems, or use other methods and prepare for potential lost deals and questions on why you DON'T take paypal.

That won't change until a big player comes along with enough brand recognition to create trust.  My guess.... Google is teh only one short term that has a chance of stealing PayPal's thunder.