Thanks, that's what I'm looking for. Don't really need 8/4 way but it's no biggie.
About those J-Sticks, are the mounting holes on the plate in the same position as a regular stick (happs super, et al)? I like the look and description of 'em, but the PC10 panel I want 'em for has already been hacked up enough. It's a metal panel, depth wont be an issue.
Besides, the T-Sticks are 16 bucks plus another 12 for the ball top shaft... I'd be better off on eBay buying 20 pink buttons just to get the sticks.