J Pac Legal Notice

[rchadd]

just been looking at the info page on the Jpac as i am going to by a jamma wired cocktail table and i want to mame it.

http://www.ultimarc.com/jpac.html

At bottom page it says following. Why is this? Surely i can wire up the coin door switch to the J Pac like i did with an I Pac in my othe cab?

Important Legal Note.

For legal reasons we must state here that the J-PAC is not designed to be used in revenue-earning applications where a credit mechanism is used. The J-PAC contains no specific interface functionality for any credit device. Although it has inputs which connect to the JAMMA coin signals, these are designed such that activating a switch connected to them causes the MAME "coin" keycodes (5 or 6) to be sent. These are designed to be used with panel pushbuttons not coin doors or note acceptors.

[Q*Bert_OP]

For legal reasons, they say that, but you can certainly wire it up to a coin switch, as long as you do not use your mame machine for profit

[NoOne=NBA=]

You can wire it up, but you can't use it in a revenue-generating environment.
It hasn't passed all the government required tests to be used in "official" gaming/gambling devices.

[RayB]

It's just MAME trademark BS. Ignore it. (and sounds like you have ALOT of reading to do, if you really want to know what this is all about :-D )

[Tailgunner]

Actually that disclamier was up at Andy's site long before the MAME trademark issue developed.

[RayB]

Actually that disclamier was up at Andy's site long before the MAME trademark issue developed.

Why? His device should be perfectly legal to use in a for-pay setting. Let's say I designed a new game using the PC platform, and then I decided to use JPACs and then had 1000 machines made... That's 1000 JPACs sold. Why would he object to that?

Wouldn't every part of a PC then need such a disclaimer?
Anyways.....
 

[Tailgunner]

Why? His device should be perfectly legal to use in a for-pay setting. Let's say I designed a new game using the PC platform, and then I decided to use JPACs and then had 1000 machines made... That's 1000 JPACs sold. Why would he object to that?

Anyways.....
 

The same reason a bathroom scale says "Not legal for trade" on the readout.

[Dervacumen]

Red Tape.

If you are serious about using it as a part of a for profit venture, you should see your lawyer.

It's just that it hasn't been approved by the US Gov as a "fair" gaming (gambling) piece of work.  So don't go opening a casino with it.

Derv

[RandyT]

It's really none of my business, but....I don't think anyone has it right yet,,,,


Email Andy if your really want to know.  It's kind of silly to theorize when you can just ask him


RandyT

[Dervacumen]

And RandyT gets the golden ring.
Elegant amswer.
Derv

[RayB]

Heh
 

[Havok]

It's really none of my business, but....I don't think anyone has it right yet,,,,


Email Andy if your really want to know.  It's kind of silly to theorize when you can just ask him


RandyT

So, if someone does, make sure to ask if it's ok to post the answer here - because inquiring minds want to know!

[Arcade82]

heh I would soooo open up an arcade with just mame machines in it if i had the money
everyone who walks in could go to any machine and choose any game

[KDOG]

And you would have a team of lawyers at you door waiting to attack.

[Arcade82]

nah no one would care

[AceTKK]

I guarantee you every other local arcade / movie theater / fun center would care.  You would be shut down faster than you could say "copyright infringement".

-Ace-

[pointdablame]

nah no one would care

he says as he's dragged to federall pound me in the --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- prison.

[AlanS17]

nah no one would care

he says as he's dragged to federall pound me in the --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- prison.

... and I'd be the one making the "anonymous phonecall".