Author Topic: 2005 BYOAC Tokens SOLD OUT. Thanks! (Read 34116 times)

darktemp · « **Reply #40 on:** July 26, 2005, 04:38:50 am »

Plus this new 3d cab is much better.

iwillfearnoevil · « **Reply #41 on:** July 26, 2005, 08:47:52 am »

great tokens everyone. it's a shame to only pick one.

Timoe · « **Reply #42 on:** July 26, 2005, 06:16:54 pm »

Does anyone else have problems picking up their tokens off of flat surfaces?

Like, when I set my tokens on a table or something, they are so flat on the edges that I cant get my gingers under them.

Maybe we could chamfer the edges a little like on a quarter?

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #43 on:** July 26, 2005, 11:15:28 pm »

94 votes so far.... I think we're approaching nickel status

Havok · « **Reply #44 on:** July 27, 2005, 11:35:17 am »

Quote from: timoe on July 26, 2005, 06:16:54 pm

Does anyone else have problems picking up their tokens off of flat surfaces?

Like, when I set my tokens on a table or something, they are so flat on the edges that I cant get my gingers under them.

tetsujin · « **Reply #45 on:** July 27, 2005, 12:50:01 pm »

Quote from: Havok on July 27, 2005, 11:35:17 am

Quote from: timoe on July 26, 2005, 06:16:54 pm
Does anyone else have problems picking up their tokens off of flat surfaces?

Maybe we could chamfer the edges a little like on a quarter?

Just chew gum while playing games, and if you need to pick up a token, use the gum to pick it up.

Chewing gum is really gross; chewing gum I hate the most.

Come on cocktail design! Vote cocktail in 2005!

pointdablame · « **Reply #46 on:** July 27, 2005, 01:11:56 pm »

With 4 designs clearly taking a lead, maybe we should make TWO tokens

Havok · « **Reply #47 on:** July 27, 2005, 01:13:21 pm »

Hey, where's the frontal view of the chick playing the game token?

missioncontrol · « **Reply #48 on:** July 27, 2005, 01:25:07 pm »

Quote from: Havok on July 27, 2005, 01:13:21 pm

Hey, where's the frontal view of the chick playing the game token?

oh yeah I forgot about that one.........

It would've got my vote.......

Santoro · « **Reply #49 on:** July 27, 2005, 01:41:56 pm »

That wasn't a token design, it was a picture. The instructions were clear about using balck and white, gray to represent levels, etc...

I took it as a tongue-in-cheek entry. If it was serious, the entry wasn't compliant with the rules.

tetsujin · « **Reply #50 on:** July 27, 2005, 02:57:12 pm »

Quote from: pointdablame on July 27, 2005, 01:11:56 pm

With 4 designs clearly taking a lead, maybe we should make TWO tokens

Sure, I mean, why buy one when you can buy two for twice the price?

pointdablame · « **Reply #51 on:** July 27, 2005, 04:54:27 pm »

Quote from: tetsujin on July 27, 2005, 02:57:12 pm

Quote from: pointdablame on July 27, 2005, 01:11:56 pm
With 4 designs clearly taking a lead, maybe we should make TWO tokens

Sure, I mean, why buy one when you can buy two for twice the price?

my thoughts exactly. Maybe we should all just mail Santoro our next checks for tokens

Santoro · « **Reply #52 on:** July 27, 2005, 06:08:54 pm »

OK, good idea!

Havok · « **Reply #53 on:** July 27, 2005, 09:37:12 pm »

Quote from: Santoro on July 27, 2005, 01:41:56 pm

That wasn't a token design, it was a picture. The instructions were clear about using balck and white, gray to represent levels, etc...

I took it as a tongue-in-cheek entry. If it was serious, the entry wasn't compliant with the rules.

I know - I was just kidding.

Cool - looks like my favorite is winning !!!

quarterback · « **Reply #54 on:** July 27, 2005, 11:15:42 pm »

When is the vote over?

Santoro · « **Reply #55 on:** July 28, 2005, 07:49:51 am »

August sixth-ish.

Kremmit · « **Reply #56 on:** July 28, 2005, 10:56:22 am »

Santoro-

Will there be a run-off election between the big vote getters?

This gives folks who voted for designs that are obviously not going to win their voice back, and allows folks who voted for 3 of the frontrunners a chance to say which of their previous picks they really, really want.

As an example, my votes were for Troz, Pixel, and Pixel- but what I really wanted was a Pixel design on one side, and the Troz design on the other. But since my three votes couldn't be weighted, that third vote effectively strengthened the chance for a Pixel/Pixel token, which wasn't really my intention.

If you decide to do it, I'd only run it for a few days, and give everybody only one vote. Let the winner of that poll take one side. Then run another poll for the other side. This way, when people vote for the 2nd side, they already know what's going to be on the 1st side, and can take that into account when they vote.

On the other hand, that's two more polls to go through. Better democracy, but more hassle. Your choice.

No matter what, thanks!

-Kremmit

Santoro · « **Reply #57 on:** July 28, 2005, 11:37:47 am »

Maybe we should poll whether to poll again?

Instead let's discuss here as a group. At first glance I am not sure if that would be fair to those who'won' the first poll.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #58 on:** July 28, 2005, 11:52:39 am »

I agree on a run off vote on the big pole getters..........

Havok · « **Reply #59 on:** July 28, 2005, 12:07:39 pm »

Toga! Toga! Toga!

Er, wait, wrong thread...

Poll! Poll! Poll!

pointdablame · « **Reply #60 on:** July 28, 2005, 12:18:45 pm »

Quote from: missioncontrol on July 28, 2005, 11:52:39 am

I agree on a run off vote on the big pole getters..........

haha you said "big pole"

I think a vote for front and back after this is a good idea. Take the top winners here and have a one vote "front" poll. Then take the remaining options for the back and do a poll. That way, at least in theory, the two most popular (of any choices at the time) will have won.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #61 on:** July 28, 2005, 01:16:45 pm »

If we do repoll, lets do it before Aug. 6th. Like, maybe.... now. It seems clear which the options would be at this point. It'd be a shame to loose momentum by dragging it on only to start polling again. Plus I'm already ready to start ordering already.

tetsujin · « **Reply #62 on:** July 28, 2005, 01:17:20 pm »

As I really want the cocktail design to somehow wind up on the tokens, I'm all in favor of a vote-off between the top entries...

darktemp · « **Reply #63 on:** July 28, 2005, 01:35:41 pm »

Why have another poll? If anybody here voted for all the top 3 they can remove their votes and cast only 2 for the ones they want out of the 3. The same goes for anyone that used one or more of their votes on a design that doesn't have a chance of winning at this point.

Besides that everyone that wants the cocktail design to win will want another poll and everyone who likes both of pixels designs will not want another poll. I for instance would rather you minted them immediately based on the current results

Edit: Oh yeah, and if you do re-poll you might as well just do a single poll against Troz's design and pixel's 3d cab since the other pixel design is a shoe in already. No sense in making 2 more polls.

Santoro · « **Reply #64 on:** July 28, 2005, 02:47:47 pm »

I am just bothered about changing the rules in the middle of the poll. If there are 2 winners , even if by a narrow margin, why would we not just use the winners? This sort of smacks of the Al Gore recount debacle. 'Mine lost by a narrow margin, so I want to count another way.'

See my point?

tetsujin · « **Reply #65 on:** July 28, 2005, 03:09:45 pm »

Quote from: Santoro on July 28, 2005, 02:47:47 pm

I am just bothered about changing the rules in the middle of the poll.

That's a fair concern, no matter where we're at now we started off with a certain plan, and to change that plan now isn't something to be taken lightly.

Vote Cocktail! Un-vote upright-cab...

GameOver · « **Reply #66 on:** July 28, 2005, 07:33:03 pm »

I'd just like to point out I have last place LOCKED baby! Do I win anything for that? Maybe a free set of tokens?

monkeybomb · « **Reply #67 on:** July 28, 2005, 10:52:17 pm »

Quote from: Santoro on July 28, 2005, 02:47:47 pm

If there are 2 winners , even if by a narrow margin, why would we not just use the winners?

Because the second place may not be the groups first choice to complete the token. Let first place have side 1 and then vote for side two. There are enough votes to see where this is goings so the second poll would really just be a question as to whether the group wants a pixel/pixel or a pixel/troz. I don't think this poll can answer that question.

If something crazy were to happen with the voting and one of the lower vote styles flew to the top. I would want to vote again so that I could match the second side to the first. I acctually changed my vote for this very reason.

CJK · « **Reply #68 on:** July 28, 2005, 10:54:32 pm »

Not so fast! The guy with the steering wheel design has the same number of votes as you do ... oh wait...

-- Chris

Kremmit · « **Reply #69 on:** July 28, 2005, 11:05:45 pm »

Quote

Posted by: Santoro Posted on: Yesterday at 05:47:47 PM

I am just bothered about changing the rules in the middle of the poll. If there are 2 winners , even if by a narrow margin, why would we not just use the winners? This sort of smacks of the Al Gore recount debacle. 'Mine lost by a narrow margin, so I want to count another way.'

See your point. I'm not trying to subvert the process, I'm just concerned that the 3 vote system we used may not provide the true "will of the people". In the Presidential race, we've got the primaries and then a real election. The reason for the primaries is to determine the real candidates, so that in the final election, folks get to choose between the guys that have the best chance of winning, instead of throwing the votes away on candidates that don't have a chance. Same thing applies here. We've currently got 49 votes spread over the obvious non-candidates, out of a total of 357 total votes. (119 voters x 3 votes = 357)

And then there's the possibillity of ending up with the wrong side1 / side2 combo. Some folks willy think that an all Pixel token looks consistent and see that as a good thing, while others will think that the two sides ought to come from different artists. If the current poll is the end of the process, you can't take into account which designs folks think go best with each other. A two-part run-off takes care of that.

Quote from: darktemp on July 28, 2005, 01:35:41 pm

Edit: Oh yeah, and if you do re-poll you might as well just do a single poll against Troz's design and pixel's 3d cab since the other pixel design is a shoe in already. No sense in making 2 more polls.

Maybe. But then again, how many of the votes that are currently on non-contenders might go to Pixel's upright if given the chance? I dunno.

-----------------------

Anyway, that's my position. But I'm not blind to the fact that it's extra work, and may step on some toes. I won't be a crybaby if you decide not to do it. Whichever way it goes- Thanks, Dave, for all the hard work you put in on these, and sorry if I've just added to the headache. And I look forward to ordering, no matter how it comes out.

-Kremmit

aumameman · « **Reply #70 on:** July 28, 2005, 11:37:38 pm »

repoll the top contenders??? could work.

Too bad we cant do these polls like Aussie voting. Basically the aussie voting system is a bit like this:

Number the candidates in order of your preference.

1 pixel design

3 coctail design

2 upright design

4 driving design

etc etc. By the way this is no indication of the designs I want to win.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #71 on:** July 29, 2005, 12:15:17 am »

Seems like a repoll should be done, if for no other reason than for people to know their votes counted as they intended. Regardless of any toes getting stepped on, it would be worse to end up with a token that some consider unfairly "elected."

quarterback · « **Reply #72 on:** July 29, 2005, 03:14:13 am »

Quote from: darktemp on July 28, 2005, 01:35:41 pm

Why have another poll? If anybody here voted for all the top 3 they can remove their votes and cast only 2 for the ones they want out of the 3.

Santoro · « **Reply #73 on:** July 29, 2005, 08:18:01 am »

I think darktemp and quarterback are correct, you can change your vote.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #74 on:** July 29, 2005, 05:52:34 pm »

then can I use all three of my votes for the same picture

gotstik · « **Reply #75 on:** July 29, 2005, 09:53:35 pm »

Quote from: Santoro on July 28, 2005, 02:47:47 pm

I am just bothered about changing the rules in the middle of the poll.

dag2000 · « **Reply #76 on:** July 30, 2005, 12:39:42 pm »

I just changed my votes.

monkeybomb · « **Reply #77 on:** July 30, 2005, 04:27:00 pm »

Quote from: dag2000 on July 30, 2005, 12:39:42 pm

I just changed my votes. I've only got two selected. I'd like to suggest that folks consider Troz's Cocktail for the front and Pixel's '3d Cab View' for the reverse. I think they balance nicely.

Pixel's 3d cab is my favorite, but I'm not voting for it. I want to see a pixel/troz token so I can't vore for it. troz and 3d are just too close.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #78 on:** July 30, 2005, 06:05:43 pm »

Quote from: monkeybomb on July 30, 2005, 04:27:00 pm

Pixel's 3d cab is my favorite, but I'm not voting for it.

Kremmit · « **Reply #79 on:** July 30, 2005, 09:49:37 pm »

My vote has been changed as well.


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