Change default player one position in cocktail mode?

[gonzobrian]

Is it possible to change the default player one positon from the right side of the cabinet to the left?
I am finishing up a 3 control panel cocktail cab and facing the front of the cabinet player one defaults to the right CP.  Was this normal in the original cocktail cabs?

[RayB]

Well, original cocktails didn't have controls on three sides. Maybe you put the side controls on the wrong side?

[gonzobrian]

Well, original cocktails didn't have controls on three sides. Maybe you put the side controls on the wrong side?

I think that was a joke but again it has been a long day and will be a long night.  From my memory of being a kid in the 80's I knew I never saw a 3 CP cocktail.  I just described my cab so that I was clear in what I was asking about the side CP's.

Actually I remember the last time I played a cocktail cab.  I was in the Boy Scouts on my way to Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico.  We stoped at a Pizza Hut and we all had a go at Pacman. 
Boy those were the days.
gonzobrian

[CheffoJeffo]

For the affected vertical games, simply flip the screen in MAME (technique depends on version used and there are those better versed than I in the details).

Cheers.

[gonzobrian]

For the affected vertical games, simply flip the screen in MAME (technique depends on version used and there are those better versed than I in the details).

Cheers.

Cool thanks CheffoJeffo.  I'm using Mame .85.  I don't know if I was clear.  I can run vertical games vertically, and horizontal games horizontally, but I want to flip cocktail games so that player one is sitting on the left side of the cabinet. 
Are you saying that there is a way to change this in Mame without altering the orientation of my 3 CP?
Thanks,
gonzobrian

[CheffoJeffo]

On my 3-sider, I use MAME32, so handle all of the configs through the menus, then run the games using MAMEWah.

For MAME, I thinkyou are looking for the -flipx / -flipy options, but I'm not the best MAME guy ... someone will undoubtedly chime in shortly with a more complete/correct answer.

Cheers.

[gonzobrian]

For MAME, I thinkyou are looking for the -flipx / -flipy options, but I'm not the best MAME guy ... someone will undoubtedly chime in shortly with a more complete/correct answer.
Cheers.

Thanks again.  Thats a starting point for me to look into.  Any one else know anything about this?

[88mph]

If I understand you correctly, you can do what you want just by using the -rol or -ror tags for command prompt mame when you're running a vertical game.  I have a vertical cocktail setup, and the 'player 1' and 'player 2' sides have slightly different controls.  (one side has a spinner/joystick and the other side has a trackball/joystick).  In addition to this, I have a small 2 player tabletop joystick setup that I can place on the cocktail, which is essentially the 3rd (horizontal position) control panel.  Basically, my machine looks like this:

                   screen
trackball        screen         spinner
                   screen     

                 2 joysticks

If I want to play a streetfighter type game, I just run mame as is.  The screen is oriented horizontally, and everything is fine. 

If I want to play a vertical spinner game like tempest, where player 1 is the spinner side, I run mame with a -rol tag, which rotates the screen orientation to the the left.

If I want to play a vertical trackball game like centipede, where player 1 is on the trackball side, I run mame with a -ror tag, which rotates the screen orientation to the right. 

Does this clear things up?

Good luck,

88mph

[gonzobrian]

Yes thanks 88mph 
If I understand you I can set up each game with -rol and all the cocktail games will have player 1 on the left side. 
So this setting is in mame.ini?  Or do I have to set up some kind of dat or ini file for each game?

[SirPoonga]

autoror or autorol options in mame.

[gonzobrian]

autoror or autorol options in mame.

Hey cool.  I'll give that a go.