ordering help

[joshbr7257]

does anyone have experience ordering from arcadestix.com

arcadestix.com link

I want to buy the I-PAC2 from them, unless you guys know a better place to buy it from, thanks for the help

[quarterback]

http://www.ultimarc.com/

[joshbr7257]

yeah but that site doesnt sell the I-PAC i cant find a buy now anywhere

[xonix_digital]

See up in the right hand corner where it says "ORDER". ... click it.
then choose your currency and continue through the catalog.

cheers.

- XD

[joshbr7257]

oh....... I feel stupid, iswear i looked for like 20minutes and i couldnt figure out how to buy it, thanks, so is this a reliable site to oreder from?

also i need to know what else i need, im making a 2 person cp and i need to know what type of wiring i nedd and what type of connectors,
ive read that i could use crimp connectors?, or quik disconnects? do i need both? please help!

[CJK]

Ultimarc is the manufacturer of the IPAC. 

Andy's great. Pick up his wiring kit, too -- it has all that stuff in it.

-- Chris

[Stingray]

oh....... I feel stupid, iswear i looked for like 20minutes and i couldnt figure out how to buy it, thanks, so is this a reliable site to oreder from?

Few sellers have as good a rep as Andy at Ultimarc, you can buy from him with complete confidence.

-S

[quarterback]

oh....... I feel stupid, iswear i looked for like 20minutes and i couldnt figure out how to buy it, thanks,

Don't feel stupid, there are basic webpage layout concepts that we all understand at this point and, for some reason, some of the arcade accessory websites don't make the actual shopping part of their websites as obvious/intuitive as they could.

[joshbr7257]

so should i buy the ultimarc wiring kit thats $19( and i already have that crimping tool) or buy peales wiring kit thats only $12, im confused on what to buy cause at ultimarc the connectors look different than peals and on peales website there called quik disconnects? check it out>

http://www.pealefamily.net/cgi-bin/closedShop/Item.pl?action=ShowCategory&category=parts

does this kit have everything i need in it for a 2 person cp? what about grounding or something like that is there cable for that? i have no clue what ground means or how i hook it up either

[CJK]

so should i buy the ultimarc wiring kit or buy peales wiring kit thats only $12, im confused on what to buy cause at ultimarc the connectors look different than peals and on peales website there called quik disconnects?

They're the same thing. And yes, Peale's is cheaper. (Hint, hint, Andy!)   

-- Chris

[joshbr7257]

but you said there the same thing? whats with the hint, hint, andy?
also, so they both have everything i need to wire a 2 person cp?

[CJK]

but you said there the same thing? whats with the hint, hint, andy?
also, so they both have everything i need to wire a 2 person cp?

Just a feeble attempt to get Andy to lower his price a bit. 

"Quick disconnects" and "push on connectors" are the same things. The two most common sizes are 1/4" and 3/16" -- in fact, in my last order from Happ, I got some Cherry microswitches with 1/4" and some with 3/16" connections on them. You'll want a bunch of each.

The wiring should be about 22 gauge or larger, IMHO. Some people here use smaller wire (25 gauge, for instance). I use 22 gauge for the positive side, 20 gauge for the ground side, since I daisy-chain the grounds.

If you have the crimping tool, get Peale's kit and save a few bucks.

-- Chris

P.S. If you're a real novice at wiring, I highly recommend you pick up Saint's book -- it has a good explanation of the fundamentals of wiring everything up.

[joshbr7257]

yeah i was actually thinking of getting the book, but about the wiring, i think i might get how to wire the buttons and joystick but the ground wire i dont, how do i hook the ground up?

[CJK]

yeah i was actually thinking of getting the book, but about the wiring, i think i might get how to wire the buttons and joystick but the ground wire i dont, how do i hook the ground up?

Most people daisy-chain the ground, since it's common to every circuit on the panel. (And usually, every circuit in the cabinet.) If you are using the IPAC2, for instance, there are two ground connectors on the board. Run a wire from the ground connector to the first switch's "COM" connector, then to the next switch's "COM" connector, then to the next, and so on. When you get to the last one, run the wire back to the other ground connector on the IPAC2. That way, you have two paths to ground so you have a little redundancy.

I attached a little diagram to this message to show you what I mean.

-- Chris

[joshbr7257]

ummm... im lost...COM??? sorry

[CJK]

ummm... im lost...COM??? sorry

The little Cherry microswitches have a terminal labelled "COM" -- for "common," which is the same as "ground."

-- Chris

[joshbr7257]

ok i think i might get it, but is there a guide you know of that has pictures step by step? sorry but im just really new to this

[CJK]

No problem -- you really want to get Saint's book, though. Amazon had it for <$20, last I saw.

Also, there are some good threads on the "Project Announcements" forum with pictures of the undersides of several people's control panels. That should get you started in the right direction.

-- Chris

[joshbr7257]

ok i think imgoing to buy peales wire kit onhis site, so what else do i need to buy, tools?

[JoyMonkey]

ok i think imgoing to buy peales wire kit onhis site, so what else do i need to buy, tools?

Do you mean power tools for building the cabinet, or tools for wiring?
You said you've already got a 'crimping tool'; I'd imagine whatever it is also has a wire stripper on it- that's all you need to wire the controls to an IPac or KeyWiz.
If you mean power tools- eh, yeah. You really need to read Saint's book.

[joshbr7257]

oh ok i just didnt know if i needed morethanthe crimping tool. thanks