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Some help with my first cabinet
« on: June 12, 2005, 03:51:47 pm »
Ok i just recentally started learning about people making cabinets and what not and i have always been interested in arcades and so i have been making sketches of one that im wanting to make for my girlfriend it is going to be a miniature one about half the size of the regular size ones but i dont have enough money to buy a new pc at the moment so im just going to put a n64 in it and make it a mario kart themed cabinet so my questions are do the buttons and joysticks take any power? if so will the n64 have enough power to still be able to run also has anyone ever made a control panel for a n64 if so how did you wire up the analog and d-pad i dont have a n64 atm so im not really sure im assuming there is just a solder point to solder to and then solder to the joystick and for the d-pad what should i do should i wire a joystick up to it or wire a seperate button up for each one last question im wanting to put 2 5" speakers in it how would i wire that up would i wire them to the tv or to the n64 im guessing the tv would be easier since i would have to have an amp for the n64 thanks
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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2005, 04:03:29 pm »
What you want to do will cost more money than a PC based cabinet.

A $20 Pentium 2 computer is enough for mame.

As far as I know there is still no analog arcade joystick that works with the N64.
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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2005, 04:38:50 pm »
Can you give me a link to somewhere that sells one for $20 also i doubt that you can get a whole computer with monitor speakers keyboard and mouse for $20

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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2005, 04:43:57 pm »
also im not wanting to run mame im wanting to be able to play n64 games and i've tried lots of different n64 emulators and none of them have worked very good

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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2005, 04:59:53 pm »
Can you give me a link to somewhere that sells one for $20 also i doubt that you can get a whole computer with monitor speakers keyboard and mouse for $20

I am talking about the CPU, not about the monitor. Computers and monitors are sold SEPARATELY.

Look on ebay, pentium 2 computers sell for NOTHING. Plenty of 400 mhz pentium 2 systems in completed auctions that didn't even sell AT ALL with $10 opening bids.

What I normally do is sort the auctions by location first so I can find a local one and just go pick it up. I have bought at least a dozen PCs that way.

Also, used monitors are equally worthless and equally easy to find.
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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2005, 05:08:42 pm »
you wont be able to hack the analog controls for the N64.  I think Happ sells an analog joystick that you might be able to adapt with a lot of work, but they are like $200 A PIECE!!.

Basically.. you can hack the d-pad and buttons on the N64 joy with little problems and play any games that use those controls.  I forget if Mario Kart can use the D-Pad, but even if it does, it's not the way to play the game. sorry.
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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2005, 05:37:55 pm »
what if i took one of those arcade controllers for n64 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3580&item=8197653957&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW could i just use the joystick and then change the buttons to whatever i want

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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2005, 11:08:20 pm »
That thing is just a gamepad with a joystick popping up on it, no more useful than a stock controller for your purposes.
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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2005, 12:23:19 am »
That thing is just a gamepad with a joystick popping up on it, no more useful than a stock controller for your purposes.

yup, my thoughts exactly.  You'd still need to hack it somehow... the fact that it has a bigger joystick shaft means nothing for you.

Not to be a harbinger of doom, but a lot of people have thought about hacking analog controls around here, and it just seems like there isn't a great way to do it just yet.  That's not to say you shouldn't try it... go right ahead, but from what I've read it's going to either be A)" impossible"  B) way too complicated to be worth it, or C) way too expensive to be worth it.
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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2005, 08:33:13 am »
Ok i guess i'll just keep the regular controls and use it like normal one more question why is it considered "hacking the control" when all your really doing is running wires from one solder point to a button

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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2005, 08:55:30 am »
Ok i guess i'll just keep the regular controls and use it like normal one more question why is it considered "hacking the control" when all your really doing is running wires from one solder point to a button

It's easier to type "hacking the control" than "running wires from one solder point to a button".

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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2005, 05:38:11 pm »
It's easier to type "hacking the control" than "running wires from one solder point to a button".

yeah... that's a pretty good explanation lol.  It's just a generic term that is used when you open up a control and make it function in a different manner than intended.  You still have the same buttons, but the fact that you made it look different, and perhaps act slightly different is why it's considered a hack.
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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2005, 07:26:18 pm »
Ok also why wouldn't this work http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3580&item=8197653957&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW what i was saying was what if i mounted the joystick and then changed then addded length to the buttons and put my own buttons on and not even mess with the joystick just mount it under the control panel i dont see why this would not work you guys said that you could just wire up the d-pad and all the other buttons with new buttons

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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2005, 07:31:30 pm »
Ok also why wouldn't this work http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3580&item=8197653957&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW what i was saying was what if i mounted the joystick and then changed then addded length to the buttons and put my own buttons on and not even mess with the joystick just mount it under the control panel i dont see why this would not work you guys said that you could just wire up the d-pad and all the other buttons with new buttons

If you can find a way to mount the actual analog stick to the CP and only use the cab for a N64 i guess it could work.  You'd more than likely have to decase the joystick to make it fit with any useable length.

And on top of that... I've used that stick before, and it's pretty unresponsive.  Give it a shot though if its what you really want.
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Re: Some help with my first cabinet
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2005, 08:29:07 am »
Ok thanks if that doesnt work i guess i'll just have controllers plugged in and have them stored somewhere in it