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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2005, 12:26:53 pm »
Here's something else to consider..

Here's my pic..


I forgot to shave, and need to get a haircut, and took a shabby pic of myself, but uploaded the picture anyway...

And here's the picture of a girl I wrote...

personals.yahoo.com link

The lady above, or the lady below,

personals.yahoo.com link

is the type of...look in a girl that I go for. That cute, girl next door type who likes movies and Technology :).   The first one is  in the 10 category that I probably have no chance with, but figured it was worth a shot.  Us shy types tend to stick together :).  The second is in the  7 category who I think would take the time to write back to me, and definetly looks cute.  Lets hope one of the 8 I've written does :)..


If not, time to go searching again in a month :).

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2005, 12:56:03 pm »
Yeah, if you don't even make the effort to put up a flattering photo, they're just going to write you off without reading what you wrote.  Laziness is not a turnon.

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2005, 01:10:58 pm »
I forgot to shave, and need to get a haircut, and took a shabby pic of myself, but uploaded the picture anyway...

Please tell me your not using that pic as your Yahoo pic? 

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2005, 01:15:24 pm »
Now I am pushing 28 and women my own age just seem terribly old looking to me. When browsing the personal ads I keep finding myself looking at all the little 19 year old pixiefaerie girls rather than actual women

Dude, you got a problem. 19 year old girls haven't done it for me since I was about 16.
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2005, 01:40:09 pm »
Unfortunatly, I am.  I just don't take good pictures, and I make sure to mention that in the note.  I just updated it with a clean shaven, better combed hair picture, but it still didn't look that great.

I also uploaded this picture, http://www.ninjaturtlesnetwork.com/menu/pic2.jpg wich turned out a little better, but still not great.



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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2005, 01:56:25 pm »
do you have a pic where you are dress up a bit and you have a haircut? 

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2005, 01:59:55 pm »
Well, I do have a prom pic of me in a tux, but I was so uncomfortable in the thing that I wasn't smiling when the picture was took.  Plus it also shows a bit of gut.


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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2005, 02:06:58 pm »
If you don't try it won't work.  The picture clear says 1000 words, all of which are variations of "leave me alone - I don't really want the risk of being hurt"

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2005, 02:16:21 pm »
dude you have to purposely like look all nice and neat and stuff just for this pic. put some effort into it, think about it people take one glance at your pic and decide whether or not to pass over it or read more. that picture is everything
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2005, 02:28:03 pm »
Well, that being said, here's pic 3

http://www.ninjaturtlesnetwork.com/menu/pic3.jpg


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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2005, 02:34:09 pm »
i cant even make out your face, blurry =\
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2005, 02:34:43 pm »
give itr a refresh, I just scanned it in.  Digital picture didn't come out too well..


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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2005, 02:36:27 pm »
That is the other dating photo failure method:  an obviously very old photo from when you were thin.  Seen it way too many times.

Browsing dating sites is good fun, even if you're not looking.

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2005, 02:38:50 pm »
yeah like i said, dont be lazy and post an old pic. we all know some women can throw on a tanktop and look hot. but with the 10 to 1 ratio on these sites, u gotta be pimpish. go get a haircut, shave, etc. have your friend take a pic for u
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2005, 02:43:31 pm »
Haircut is getting done today.  I guess I could use a pic that will get taken laster this month.  That'll be a proffesional picture at a convention done by a proffesional photographer, rather than a quick snapshot..


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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2005, 03:11:40 pm »
I wish you luck

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2005, 10:42:57 pm »
I never have been to a date sight. or chat room.
I know a bunch of girls here in KY. have just up and quit there jobs and took off to be with there chat friend .

Father in law has meet 3 ladies from one sight. All were looking for a sugar daddy. no kidding.

all 3 ladies tried to get us out of the picture ( My wife (his daughter) and my 2 girls) really strange ladies :o

but if you think about it. 72 years old and in 1st month he had like 20 replies. and hooked up with 3

I guess it is were you live.
my advice is ... clean up... ( dress up like you were going some place nice)
(church clothes) try walmart for Pics. $8.00 and you get a floppy. let the pros take the pic.

try the chat rooms. I never have ( very happy being married) I meet my wife at the flee market in AZ.
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2005, 11:33:35 pm »
 :o  ;D  :-X  ???  ;)

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2005, 11:40:40 pm »

I know a bunch of girls here in KY.


How deep?  Up to their waists, or higher still?  Probably makes it easy to pick 'em up since they can't run through that stuff easily

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 $8.00 and you get a floppy.


I'm pretty sure guys are taking Viagra to AVOID that problem.  Why would you want to PAY to continue to KEEP that problem?

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Evidently she didn't get the instructions or was used to going to the "stay right here until a guy comes along and takes you hostage for life" market


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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2005, 11:55:37 pm »
I guess it is were you live.
my advice is ... clean up... ( dress up like you were going some place nice)
(church clothes) try walmart for Pics. $8.00 and you get a floppy. let the pros take the pic.

Good advice...But one more thing...SMILE!!!
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« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2005, 12:00:07 am »
drew.
LOL
nope I am not thin skined. ;D
had to quit the viagra to mush $$$$
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2005, 12:00:54 am »
I dont think him having a smile on will do much, if i may be so bold as to say "its not looking good"

I wouldnt post anymore pics and get by on your personality if possible.

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2005, 01:21:19 am »
That attitude unfortunalty won't get him any further either...The idea here being to MEET a woman....He won't be able to hide behind a smiley forever. <Not to talk about you in the 3rd person Shredder1>

Seriously...First impressions Can and often do make or break a relationship...Learning how to be comfortable with people in public<and looking like your comfortable, will make a big difference.

Keep your stick on the ice  ;)
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2005, 10:24:07 am »

Keep your stick on the ice  ;)


Xar, is that just the "BYOAC" version of $8 for a "floppy"? ;D

Shredder, confidence is what you require.  No one can teach that to you, it can only come through putting yourself out there, finding out how much good/bad stuff you can handle regarding yourself, and looking for a bright side or funny way to deal with it. 

I AM the best looking guy on these forums because my wife told me I am, and I've got such good taste that I married the smartest woman I've ever met.

Other guys here will tell you I'm dead wrong because their wife told THEM that, and THEY have the smartest woman in the world.  Personally, I can't believe they can confuse "dead wrong" with "dead sexy", but.....meh!

See how that works? ;D

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2005, 11:32:45 am »
Yeah 10's are psychoe. I only reserve 10 for models and some beauty queens, but they are off their rockers.

I have one that randomly IM's me because I don't give her attention. She swings wildly between anger and self-pity. Why do I avoid her in the first place, though? Because she's psycho! :P


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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #65 on: May 07, 2005, 06:52:28 pm »
And here's the picture of a girl I wrote...

personals.yahoo.com link

I'm thinking that's got to be a fake ad.  Either that, or this girl gets around a bit.  I saw that same picture @ Hot or Not a while back.  In the 'gay' section (yeah, I browse the gay women, is that a crime?).

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« Reply #66 on: May 07, 2005, 09:05:44 pm »
nope me and my wife do the same for kicks.   :angel:

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« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2005, 11:48:30 am »
i hope the URL "ninjaturtlesnetwork" doesnt show up on the sites ur posting these pics, lol
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« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2005, 12:47:25 am »
i wonder what ever happened to this guy.. lol
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« Reply #69 on: July 29, 2005, 11:06:45 pm »
His profile sez he was last here 2 days ago.  Methinks he secretly has a crush on you, and has been chatting with you online disguised as a super-phat chick to get the nekkid pics of you for his personal collection

Now that the cat's outta the bag, fess up.  You think he's dead sexy but are afraid to come out of the closet ;D
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2005, 10:36:04 pm »
I met my wife through adultfriendfinders.com.  But I did a good deal of work and effort to get a good ad there.  I regularly got responses back from the women I messaged, and met several people for coffee before I met and fell for my wife.

For internet dating sites, for men, I have a few REALLY GOOD tips.

1) sign up for a woman's account. 

In other words, sign up for a free ad, and post that you are a woman, red-hair, athletic build, non-smoker, looking to meet some new people and have some fun.  Don't post a picture.  Then sit back and watch the messages *FLOOD* in.  If you want them to come in even faster, mention that you have big boobs.  Read the messages that you get.  They will be a fantastic guide on exactly what NOT to say to get someone to respond to you.  90% of them will all say the same thing, with various measurements given between 9 and 12 inches.  Most of those will end with requests for your phone # and address.   Most all of the others will be something insipid or stupid that will make you roll your eyes and mutter "loser" under your breath.

2) Do *NOT* spam the same message to all of the women who match your search. 

Many of the women out there have more than one account on the same site, and will catch you if you send them the same message to different accounts.  There are a LOT of "spammers" out there who get disqualified immediately for that.

3) When you do find someone that sounds like you'd be interested in talking to them, *read*their*ad* and respond to what it is that they said about themselves. 

She says she likes cycling?  Ask her what it is that she likes best about it...  etc.

Also, a great idea for an attention grabber, or ice-breaker is to sympathize with the fact that she is being deluged with stupid messages.

Basically, understand that your message will be one of hundreds that will be flooding into her mailbox.  You have to stand out from that crowd, and you have to do it by being interesting, down to earth, realistic, and interested in her.  Once you can do that, then you'll start getting replies back to your messages.  And once they start talking to you, then you can pick and choose which of them you want to spend time with.

Just pay attention.  That's really the important part.

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2005, 10:45:51 pm »

So, basically, do the same things one does in real life to get a woman.

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« Reply #72 on: August 01, 2005, 12:08:03 am »
I met my wife through adultfriendfinders.com. 


No kidding?  I thought that was a porno site?  I see pop-up ads from there all the time with topless strippers / escort types.

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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #73 on: August 01, 2005, 09:49:02 am »

So, basically, do the same things one does in real life to get a woman.

Well, other than the bit about dressing up like a woman and getting hit on by guys so you can see what "the competition" is doing.   ;D


I met my wife through adultfriendfinders.com. 
No kidding?  I thought that was a porno site?  I see pop-up ads from there all the time with topless strippers / escort types.

Well, it's a hook-up site.  Friendfinders is for people looking for pen-pals and beach-walk buddies.  AdultFrienfinders is for folks looking for some sex.  Because of that, there's a lot of people who post pornoriffic pics of themselves, and the website throws around the best of them to attract business.  Hey, strippers need love too!   ;D
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #74 on: August 01, 2005, 10:27:52 am »

More like they throw around a lot of made up ads that are 100x better looking than the crap you'd find in your area.

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« Reply #75 on: August 01, 2005, 10:35:41 am »
exactly..

i actually joined that site for a month it was the biggest waste ever. it was either gross fat girls, fake ads that when u message them link u to a site where u have to pay to see "the rest of their pictures", or just plain weirdos. i dunno how u met anyone on that site man
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #76 on: August 01, 2005, 01:58:37 pm »
Just lucky I guess...

Here I am, fat, bald, and more than 5 years older than the upper limit she was looking for.   She's a young, athletic redheaded hottie with green eyes, who was just looking for some hookups.  We celebrated our 5-year aniversiary this weekend! 

I'm 9 years older than her, and just don't get this "hip and hop" music she listens to... but then, she doesn't remember the Superfriends, or H.R. Puffenstuff.

Or, it could be that we're just both plain weirdos.   ;D  Either way, it am teh happeh!
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« Reply #77 on: August 01, 2005, 05:05:53 pm »
lucky bastard, i love redheads.... i demand pics! =p
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #78 on: August 01, 2005, 05:14:43 pm »
He's not lucky, he's wealthy.
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Re: Anyone try online dating?
« Reply #79 on: August 01, 2005, 05:19:02 pm »

OOH, see now that would make sense.