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Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« on: April 19, 2005, 12:59:09 am »
Since I'm getting a cabinet this weekend I've been looking everywhere online on where to find PCBs for a fair price. So far ebay looks like the best deal, but are there any other places that people on this board use to purchase their games from? Sites such as coinopexpress look way overpriced. I was looking for PCBs of games made somewhat recently (within 10 years) like tekken tag or street fighter. I'm also looking into the naomi I/II system because it has some great games that I would love to play that I wouldn't be able to do with MAME such as Ikaruga or VF4. Can't seem to find anywhere besides ebay that I can get a Naomi from though.

So if anyone here has any of this for sale or can point me in the right direction, thanks in advance.

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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2005, 02:05:23 am »
Sadly, for the most part any storefront that sells PCB's (i.e coinopexpress) inflates the prices. eBay is a hit and miss depending on your tastes and patience. Message boards and the newsgroups tend to be the best places to find boards in my opinion.

If you are serious about getting a Naomi system, you can get them for a reasonable price here:

http://home.netvigator.com/~cosmicco/

You have to email them for a current price list, but they are very responsive. They are in Hong Kong, so figure in shipping and fees to send the money to them. This is where I got my Naomi system and a couple of games and I was very pleased by how quickly they got here.

If you are interested, I have a couple of recent boards for sale:

Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 (w/ kick harness) $75
Street Fighter Alpha 3 (A+B Blue CPS2) $125
Marvel Super Heroes (A+B Blue CPS2) $75

All boards work and included copied manuals. Prices do not include shipping. Let me know if you are interested.
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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2005, 02:24:58 am »
Since I'm getting a cabinet this weekend I've been looking everywhere online on where to find PCBs for a fair price. So far ebay looks like the best deal, but are there any other places that people on this board use to purchase their games from? Sites such as coinopexpress look way overpriced. I was looking for PCBs of games made somewhat recently (within 10 years) like tekken tag or street fighter. I'm also looking into the naomi I/II system because it has some great games that I would love to play that I wouldn't be able to do with MAME such as Ikaruga or VF4. Can't seem to find anywhere besides ebay that I can get a Naomi from though.

So if anyone here has any of this for sale or can point me in the right direction, thanks in advance.

-CJ



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There are some great deals for NAOMI on eBay at the moment. Including a NAOMI I mobo with a Guilty Gear XX cart for something low like $120.

-Goz
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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2005, 02:33:14 am »
I have been collecting boards for years.

I use ebay.
I look in the buy/sell/trade section of people's website (got an NOS Road Fighter kit that was missing the joystick but was otherwise complete and NEW for $20 this way).
I look in the sale forums on klov (these are fairly slow)
Sometimes I read RGVAC/RGVAM
And if I am doing a deal with someone where I will see them in person I sometimes ask them about boards, I have picked up 5 or 6 of them that way.
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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2005, 02:56:24 pm »
Thanks everyone for all of your help I just had 2 questions.

1. This is a newbie question. I was looking to buy Ikaruga GDROM to play on my Super Neo 29" candy, but I don't know if it will work because I think Ikaruga is vertical and my cabinet is horizontal. I really don't know if it'll play rotated 90 degrees, not play at all, or just auto adjust. I'm not even sure if the moniter rotates on my cabinet. Does anyone know if I can get Ikaruga to play on what I have?

2. I've came across many people and sites selling Naomi I mobos, but the Naomi II's seem to be a lot more scarce and I'm not even sure how much one would end up costing me. I would be interested in buying the mobo, dimm, gdrom, i/o altogether, but I can't even find anywhere that sells these parts.

3. Is it better to buy the Naomi parts seperate or altogether? I don't know who has any experience in this system, but if you do can you share how you aquired all of your parts and for what price.





Maisil- I emailed that site for the prices on their Naomi I or II hardware so maybe I'll end up buying from there. Were you able to get everything you needed from them or did you have to buy other components elsewhere? The MKIII sounds great but I'm tight on cash right now so maybe I'll get  back to you on that in a month or two if you still have any for sale.

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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2005, 03:10:06 pm »
Thanks everyone for all of your help I just had 2 questions.

1. This is a newbie question. I was looking to buy Ikaruga GDROM to play on my Super Neo 29" candy, but I don't know if it will work because I think Ikaruga is vertical and my cabinet is horizontal. I really don't know if it'll play rotated 90 degrees, not play at all, or just auto adjust. I'm not even sure if the moniter rotates on my cabinet. Does anyone know if I can get Ikaruga to play on what I have?

2. I've came across many people and sites selling Naomi I mobos, but the Naomi II's seem to be a lot more scarce and I'm not even sure how much one would end up costing me. I would be interested in buying the mobo, dimm, gdrom, i/o altogether, but I can't even find anywhere that sells these parts.

3. Is it better to buy the Naomi parts seperate or altogether? I don't know who has any experience in this system, but if you do can you share how you aquired all of your parts and for what price.





Maisil- I emailed that site for the prices on their Naomi I or II hardware so maybe I'll end up buying from there. Were you able to get everything you needed from them or did you have to buy other components elsewhere? The MKIII sounds great but I'm tight on cash right now so maybe I'll get  back to you on that in a month or two if you still have any for sale.


I'll try my best to answer quickly as I'm late for something.

1. IKARUGA (Radiant Silvergun II) is a kick ass game.  It is actually playable both HORIZONTAL or VERTICAL you can change it in the BIOS.

2. Contact Smallz on the NAOMI super site or NEO-GEO.com he has full NAOMI I and II kits for sale. You'll have to get a quote from him, but I'd venture to say a NAOMI I kit with GDROM will run at least $500. A NAOMI II kit with GDROM is likely 1,000 or more.

3. On BYOAC there are a few NAOMI enthusiasts. There are more on the sites I mentioned in #2. The NAOMI Super site is working on building a standardized price guide for what you should pay.

Hope this helps,

-Goz

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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2005, 04:45:50 pm »
I emailed that site for the prices on their Naomi I or II hardware so maybe I'll end up buying from there. Were you able to get everything you needed from them or did you have to buy other components elsewhere? The MKIII sounds great but I'm tight on cash right now so maybe I'll get
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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2005, 07:53:50 pm »
I emailed that site for the prices on their Naomi I or II hardware so maybe I'll end up buying from there. Were you able to get everything you needed from them or did you have to buy other components elsewhere? The MKIII sounds great but I'm tight on cash right now so maybe I'll get

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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2005, 08:30:46 pm »
What kind of regular PS would you use with the Naomi I or II hardware? Do you have to hunt down an official sega one?

Just a regular arcade PS. The one that they send outputs the 3v line by downstepping the 5v line (i.e. there isn't a 5v line in this PS). There is no need to hunt down an actual Sega one if you don't want to. I'm planning on hacking a regular computer PS when I get around to putting together a new cabinet so that I only need one PS (and I can easily swap in a MAME motherboard when I want to).
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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2005, 08:52:07 pm »
Yeah you can hack a regular TAX PSU and save some $. The Sega PSU does have POTS for adjusting voltage and the right wire harness, but the ATX will work fine for  powering the GD-ROM.

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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2005, 09:34:54 pm »
The monitor DOES rotate in the Super Neo 29, but it is a pain in the neck the first time. Take off the whole front bezel assembly, take the dark plastic bezel off the white one and rotate that 90 degrees (don't bother putting the screws back in, it is fine without them), then unbolt the monitor and rotate 90 degrees clockwise (when I say "rotate" I mean, unbolt pick it up and put it back in at the new rotation), and then bolt the monitor back down, and put the front bezel back on.

Be sure and hit the degauss switch after powering the game back up, it will need it.
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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2005, 10:42:13 am »
The monitor DOES rotate in the Super Neo 29, but it is a pain in the neck the first time. Take off the whole front bezel assembly, take the dark plastic bezel off the white one and rotate that 90 degrees (don't bother putting the screws back in, it is fine without them), then unbolt the monitor and rotate 90 degrees clockwise (when I say "rotate" I mean, unbolt pick it up and put it back in at the new rotation), and then bolt the monitor back down, and put the front bezel back on.

Be sure and hit the degauss switch after powering the game back up, it will need it.

So basically you have to pick up the moniter and move rotate it yourself in the air and put it back in at 90 degrees? That thing has to be heavy...Also do I have to worry about the electricity still in the moniter when the machine is turned off? And what does the degauss switch do? Thanks for answering my newbie questions.
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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2005, 02:35:15 am »
So basically you have to pick up the moniter and move rotate it yourself in the air and put it back in at 90 degrees? That thing has to be heavy...Also do I have to worry about the electricity still in the moniter when the machine is turned off? And what does the degauss switch do? Thanks for answering my newbie questions.  ;D

I have a trick that lets me rotate my Astro and Windy monitors by myself (pretty much the same for Neo's).  After disconnecting all the wires (RGBHV/Power and remote controls), and removing the top/outside shell, tip the cabinet onto its back, then unbolt the monitor, and pick-up (via frame) completely out of the cab, rotate, and set back down.  I find this easier than reaching over the control panel and trying to remove/replace it horizontally.

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Re: Where to buy PCBs or Naomi
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2005, 03:31:37 am »
You ONLY have to worry about electricity in the monitor if you are taking the anode cap off. You only take the anode cap off to do certain repairs, so no worry there.

The deguass button DEGAUSSES. Press it if the colors are off, and press it once after each time you rotate.

I am not particularly strong and I can rotate the monitor by myself (forgot to mention that you do have to undo the remote control board when rotating to vertical, it is just sitting on two plastic pegs, just move it so it is hanging free in the cabinet while you do the rotation). On a Super Neo you do not have to unhook any of the other wiring going into the monitor, it has more than enough slack.

Mine has a marquee area at the top, all the super neos I have seen have them, although I HAVE seen 3 different marquee styles, one is dedicated Neo Geo 4-slot type, and holds 4 mini marquees, one is a BIG OLD oddly shaped marquee area, and the last one (mine) is that same big old area, filled with graphics with an insert area for a smaller marquee to go in the middle.
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