What Cocktail Cabinet have I bought?

[chablis97]

I just picked this cocktail cabinet up.  Can anyone tell me if the PCB is Jamma based or not?

Its currently running Gyruss, does anyone know whats the origins of this cabinet are?

[Kremmit]

A close up of the CP and top (closed) might help.

[chablis97]

Is this any help?

[paigeoliver]

I can't ID the cabinet, probably an imported one from Japan or China.

Gyruss is not JAMMA, you can rewire the cabinet as JAMMA and get a "Konami to JAMMA" adaptor from arcadeshop which will allow you to run your original PCB, and your Gyruss one.

[chablis97]

I'm in Australia, anyone locals recognise it?

The only PCB I have is the one that came with the cabinet, it has 'Gyruss' writtern on it and the machine runs this Gyruss PCB OK.  The main connector between the cabinet has 'Time Pilot' writtern on it though, so I suspect I may have run Time Pilot in a former life.

If this machine isnt Jamma, I will prbably put MAME in it.

What do others think?

[paigeoliver]

Oh, if you are in Australia then that is most likely a Leisure and Allied cocktail table, or an Asian import.

You guys got all different stuff in Au as compared to the rest of the world. Most of your games were done by L&A who did licensed and unlicensed versions of all those games that the rest of the world got from other makers.

Time Pilot and Gyruss have the same wiring harness. Might be labeled that way because it was once a time pilot, or simply because that particular shop might have called all Konami game harnesses Time Pilot.

No matter what it WAS, you won't be able to REALLY restore it, because no one makes repro artwork for Aussie games.

So pretty much do with it whatever you please.

I am personally a really big fan of the Konami/Time Pilot pinout, lots of great games use it. That is the ONLY pinout I ever actually paid money for to get a JAMMA adapator. I have like 20 boards that use that pinout.

[spriggy]

I just picked this cocktail cabinet up.

[chablis97]

Thanks for the info paige. 

Can anyone recommend any good resources on the whole Jamma thing and in particular how to rewiring cabinets as JAMMA, etc.  I'm a newcomer (only MAMEd one cabinet, nothing else) and I'm confused.

Thanks Spriggy. I thought it may be a Hankin.  Yep, I realise the T-legs are missing, its becoming a habit as the first cabinet I renovated turned up with a leg ripped off and they had to be replaced.  Luckily my Father-in-law has a metalwork shop!

[paigeoliver]

Rewiring an existing Konami pinout cocktail to Jamma is pretty easy. You get your JAMMA harness, lookup the pinout (sometimes it is printed on the harness), and wire away.

Essentially all you are doing is replacing that edge connector and the wires that come off it with a different edge connector. You will probably want to redo it as 3 buttons as the full JAMMA spec is 3 buttons.

It works pretty similar to wiring up a mame cabinet, the ground wires go all sorts of places, and then each other wire only goes to one specific place.

[chablis97]

That sound pretty simple. If it is just an edge connector change, I assume that Konami and Jamma use the same Voltage levels?

[paigeoliver]

That sound pretty simple. If it is just an edge connector change, I assume that Konami and Jamma use the same Voltage levels?

Yes, you will still use the same power supply with the +5, +12 and -5.

[spriggy]

Had this old link that may/or may not be of interest.

http://www.larwe.com/coinop/hankin.html

I'm surmising that the cocktail wiring would follow the same standard?

For your info.

spriggy

[RayB]

Arcadeshop.com sells a JAMMA to Konami adaptor.

[chablis97]

Thanks guys.  Its starting to all make sense to me now.  I have a print out of JAMMA, Konami and Leisure and Allied (Australian) pinouts and I'll be able to work out whats going on in the spaghetti wiring in the cabinet.