Author Topic: WHY A SPINNER, JUST FOR TEMPEST? JOG MY MEMORY PLEASE! (Read 6474 times)

rackoon · « **on:** April 08, 2005, 09:52:20 pm »

WHY SHOULD I PUT A SPINNER ON MY CONTROL BOARD?
I SPENT MANY A YEARS IN ARCADES, BOWLLING ALLYES, AND CONVENIENT STORES, IN THE 80'S AND I BELIVE THAT TEMPEST WAS THE ONLY GAME I HAVE COME ACROSS THAT HAD A SPINNER. INFACT, I AM NOT SHURE IT HAD A SPINNER. UNFORUATLY , 34 YEARS OF BAD HABITS HAVE SPENT MY MEMORY. (ACTUALLY I DIDN'T HAVE ANY BAD HABITS TIL I WAS AT LEAST 16) REGARDLESS,
ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT CAN JOG MY MEMORY OF OTHER GAMES THAT USED A SPINNER
(DON'T GET ME WRONG, I LOVE TEMPEST)

oldsage · « **Reply #1 on:** April 08, 2005, 09:54:12 pm »

Quote from: rackoon on April 08, 2005, 09:52:20 pm

WHY SHOULD I PUT A SPINNER ON MY CONTROL BOARD?
I SPENT MANY A YEARS IN ARCADES, BOWLLING ALLYES, AND CONVENIENT STORES, IN THE 80'S AND I BELIVE THAT TEMPEST WAS THE ONLY GAME I HAVE COME ACROSS THAT HAD A SPINNER. INFACT, I AM NOT SHURE IT HAD A SPINNER.

Zeosstud · « **Reply #2 on:** April 08, 2005, 10:05:17 pm »

Tempest is actually a good enough reason.
Tron comes to mind as a second.
Omega Race.

Will · « **Reply #3 on:** April 08, 2005, 10:08:03 pm »

For the love of everything good in this world cap locks button is your friend.

Besides tempest you have araknoid(imagine breakout),camelty is a fun maze game where you try to get a ball through a course that you spin around.How bout Tron and Discs of Tron ,bet you saw those around your area.

Those are the games that I can think of that moment and im sure there is more.The novelty and fun of having a spinner is worth every penny.Of course I like tempest alot.

Santoro · « **Reply #4 on:** April 08, 2005, 11:31:44 pm »

Spinners are cool for some of the driving games too.

Hoagie_one · « **Reply #5 on:** April 08, 2005, 11:40:21 pm »

best spinner game evar....Blasteroids

NoOne=NBA= · « **Reply #6 on:** April 08, 2005, 11:52:20 pm »

Star Trek

RetroBorg · « **Reply #7 on:** April 09, 2005, 12:24:06 am »

Arkanoid

Timstuff · « **Reply #8 on:** April 09, 2005, 12:43:47 am »

Although I dissagree with the original poster's choice to TYPE IN ALL CAPS, I too am wondering what kind of killer apps exist that would make me want to buy a spinner. $80 is an aweful lot to spend on what to me seems like a glorified TV knob. I'm sure that it's great to have for games like Tempest and Tron, but those are the only Spinner-Enabled roms I've played, and I've only played those games using alternate control setups on my PC. I doubt that I'll be able to put a spinner into my first attempt because they're so freakin' expensive, but I might consider it on a future project, possibly.

telengard · « **Reply #9 on:** April 09, 2005, 01:01:26 am »

Quote from: rackoon on April 08, 2005, 09:52:20 pm

WHY SHOULD I PUT A SPINNER ON MY CONTROL BOARD?
I SPENT MANY A YEARS IN ARCADES, BOWLLING ALLYES, AND CONVENIENT STORES, IN THE 80'S AND I BELIVE THAT TEMPEST WAS THE ONLY GAME I HAVE COME ACROSS THAT HAD A SPINNER. INFACT, I AM NOT SHURE IT HAD A SPINNER. UNFORUATLY , 34 YEARS OF BAD HABITS HAVE SPENT MY MEMORY. (ACTUALLY I DIDN'T HAVE ANY BAD HABITS TIL I WAS AT LEAST 16) REGARDLESS,
ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT CAN JOG MY MEMORY OF OTHER GAMES THAT USED A SPINNER
(DON'T GET ME WRONG, I LOVE TEMPEST)

I have one word for you...... Warlords.

Um, make that two, Breakout.

There are good # of spinner games.

MajorLag · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2005, 02:51:11 am »

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I have one word for you...... Warlords.

You don't know joy until you've played 4 player Warlords.

Lilwolf · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2005, 08:49:40 am »

Star Trek and Blasteroids.

Tempest of course

And I've spent more on a controller which is ONLY good for one game (720)... Don't regret it.

Wish I spent more on starwars controllers 4 years ago when I started looking. At todays prices I would be rich and powerful and would control the entire scene! "What? you want a yoke? Well, clean my car and make me a cocktail table!"

daywane · « **Reply #12 on:** April 09, 2005, 09:00:31 am »

Quote from: Timstuff on April 09, 2005, 12:43:47 am

Although I dissagree with the original poster's choice to TYPE IN ALL CAPS, I too am wondering what kind of killer apps exist that would make me want to buy a spinner. $80 is an aweful lot to spend on what to me seems like a glorified TV knob. I'm sure that it's great to have for games like Tempest and Tron, but those are the only Spinner-Enabled roms I've played, and I've only played those games using alternate control setups on my PC. I doubt that I'll be able to put a spinner into my first attempt because they're so freakin' expensive, but I might consider it on a future project, possibly.

you can get them as cheep as $20.00
I did. now if I could just find the darn thing.
I am not kidding. My house (wife I think) is swiping all my stuff!

Tiger-Heli · « **Reply #13 on:** April 09, 2005, 09:12:14 am »

Quote from: Timstuff on April 09, 2005, 12:43:47 am

$80 is an aweful lot to spend on what to me seems like a glorified TV knob.

$64 for an www.oscarcontrols.com V2 and his mouse hack. And even if Tempest were the ONLY spinner game, that would be reason enough for me.

Jabba · « **Reply #14 on:** April 09, 2005, 10:04:31 am »

Don't forget Kick. It also uses a spinner.

Impossible to play it without a spinner.

And I agree with the others, Tempest and Arkanoid are reason enough...

The Man · « **Reply #15 on:** April 09, 2005, 01:16:21 pm »

Major Havoc

Trimoor · « **Reply #16 on:** April 09, 2005, 01:45:39 pm »

Quote from: Will on April 08, 2005, 10:08:03 pm

For the love of everything good in this world cap locks button is your friend.

Wrong, caps lock is your enemy! It's only purpose is to randomly turn on and capitalize your entire message. Pop off the key and chuck it out the window. Best thing I ever did.

jer2665 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 09, 2005, 02:13:10 pm »

MAYBE HE DIDN'T HAVE CAPS LOCK ON...HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN HOLDING THE SHIFT KEY!!

rackoon · « **Reply #18 on:** April 09, 2005, 02:27:27 pm »

Man! you GUYS are BRUTAL regarding THE cap LOCK button USE.

To be honest with ya, I had way too much vodka and typed the post with one eye closed.

Anyway, I love Tepest enough to add a spinner. Its just that I thought there were a bunch of games that I missed back in the 80's, because so many cabs have spinners.

LONG LIVE THE MYSTIC CAP BUTTON!
FOR I AM BULLROG, A MIGHTY AND POWERFULL NINJA SWORN TO ERADICATE THE WORLD OF HIPPIES!

Will · « **Reply #19 on:** April 09, 2005, 03:15:06 pm »

Were not brutal,were just training you for many years of talking about arcade games and arcade building.Call it a friendly welcome to the board...

Hoagie_one · « **Reply #20 on:** April 09, 2005, 05:29:26 pm »

oh, and tron too

rackoon · « **Reply #21 on:** April 09, 2005, 05:52:58 pm »

ya, OK, I think I remember that game at the bowling alley in 84 (maybe) two guys standing on multible disks, throwing a frisbee back and forth. That game was pretty cool. Yet, I found the racing pod (dont know what else to call it) one the best of the tron arcade games.( were they the same game?) Regardless, it must of had some attraction to it becuse I do remember pumping quarters into it. Man, that was a long time ago.( 20years).SIGH! (CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY IT AGAIN.) DIDNT IT HAVE A FUNKY JOYSTICK? CANT REMEMBER.

Anyway, I have noticed that the spinners on most pre-made panels are at the top of the cp. Is it akward to reach that far?

Santoro · « **Reply #22 on:** April 09, 2005, 06:51:27 pm »

That was Discs of TRON

rackoon · « **Reply #23 on:** April 09, 2005, 07:47:42 pm »

OK Santoro, you got your Mame down, but let me ask you this-- is Gettey ( bassest of Rush) better than Flea (Cillie Peppers) or Clay pool (Primus)

This tornado of thought is probaly wrecking you like a double dose of Window Pane (Berkley 4 way ACID)

Its OK, just sit in a closet for six hours with a flashlight and a Liter of 7UP. You will be OK. ( If you dont eat the shrooms growing in there.)

elvis · « **Reply #24 on:** April 09, 2005, 08:19:16 pm »

http://www.mameworld.net/maws/srch.php?control=1

276 games (including clones) that needed a spinner.

Santoro · « **Reply #25 on:** April 09, 2005, 08:36:16 pm »

Quote from: rackoon on April 09, 2005, 07:47:42 pm

Random weirdness erased

Ummmmm....

OK then.

I do like the Red Hots, especially their old one - "Fight Like a Brave."

But otherwise I have no idea WTF all that meant. $:-\$

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #26 on:** April 09, 2005, 09:29:54 pm »

Quote from: Jabba on April 09, 2005, 10:04:31 am

Don't forget Kick. It also uses a spinner.

Impossible to play it without a spinner.

And I agree with the others, Tempest and Arkanoid are reason enough...

Kick originally used a trackball I believe, but a spinner works just fine since it's only right/left movement.

Nannuu · « **Reply #27 on:** April 09, 2005, 09:54:55 pm »

Other than the games, a spinner is a great way to scroll up and down your game list

Also check out Kevin's review of Breakquest. I just bought that one and i love it!

http://www.retroblast.com/reviews/breakquest.html

pointdablame · « **Reply #28 on:** April 10, 2005, 01:42:50 am »

Quote from: rackoon on April 09, 2005, 07:47:42 pm

OK Santoro, you got your Mame down, but let me ask you this-- is Gettey ( bassest of Rush) better than Flea (Cillie Peppers) or Clay pool (Primus)

This tornado of thought is probaly wrecking you like a double dose of Window Pane (Berkley 4 way ACID)

Its OK, just sit in a closet for six hours with a flashlight and a Liter of 7UP. You will be OK. ( If you dont eat the shrooms growing in there.)

what the....

I mean... where did this....

Sheesh man... lay off whatever it is you are on

BUCKETHEAD · « **Reply #29 on:** April 10, 2005, 08:59:28 am »

I made the mistake of typing in all caps once.

They really think on this board that you are SHOUTING at them,

While you are typing. LoL !

GameOver · « **Reply #30 on:** April 10, 2005, 11:11:34 am »

Good choice on the spinner. You won't be dissapointed! Relative to the value of the cab, not a big deal for the value it adds.

rackoon · « **Reply #31 on:** April 10, 2005, 12:49:29 pm »

Ya OK, maybe I got lost in my head there. I was raised by hippies on a nudest colony in the forrest of Humbolt county -north CA. (Not kidding) But, I'm recovering fine. Infact I turned out quite Conservative.
Regardless-------

Yo, SANTORO,
you are sporting a famous quote from a RUSH song. Their bassest is thought of as the greatest bassest ever. Yet, many believe it is Flea(peppers) or Claypool(Primus).
Regardless------

276 games is a huge reason to have a spinner.
Oh, and my wife says that she wont support my spending the time and money to build unless she can play Tempest.

First she tells vids are a wast if time and she never played them.
Now she is telling me that she loves Tempest and Must be able to play it on our MAME cab. Whats up with women and video games?

Will · « **Reply #32 on:** April 10, 2005, 01:35:35 pm »

HAHAH sure a conservative from the emerald triangle SURE!!You went to Camp Winnarainbow you dirty tree hugger

Sorry just giving you a hard time....-W

Lilwolf · « **Reply #33 on:** April 10, 2005, 02:29:42 pm »

btw, Its not REALLY 27x games... MOST of those are driving games which you can use a spinner for, but you probably wont want to.

Then you also have two main types of spinners. Geared and weighted. The gears are arkanoid type spinners... very pracise and easy to move from left to right. Then you have the weighted ones (tempest) that you spin and it will keep moving in that direction until you stop it (or friction/gravity kicks in).

These games CAN be played with the wrong type of spinner... but not as well as the original.

So you will probably get 10 - 20 games that play perfect. Then 10 - 20 games that will play close... Then you will get 100+ that you could use until you find a 360 steering wheel.

But take note. the 10 - 20 games are all great games.

monkeybomb · « **Reply #34 on:** April 10, 2005, 07:08:46 pm »

Quote from: rackoon on April 09, 2005, 07:47:42 pm

OK Santoro, you got your Mame down, but let me ask you this-- is Gettey ( bassest of Rush) better than Flea (Cillie Peppers) or Clay pool (Primus)

Jaco Pastorious crushes these guys, all of whom I love.

NoOne=NBA= · « **Reply #35 on:** April 10, 2005, 07:28:03 pm »

Quote from: monkeybomb on April 10, 2005, 07:08:46 pm

OK Santoro, you got your Mame down, but let me ask you this-- is Gettey ( bassest of Rush) better than Flea (Cillie Peppers) or Clay pool (Primus)

I'm going to have to put a vote in for Stuart Hamm (Joe Satriani's bassist, and a solo artist).
I saw him play solo live, and was absolutely mesmerized.

Unfortunately I never got a chance to see Jaco Pastorius live, but I love his recorded work.
Stanley Clarke would be another must-mention.

Will · « **Reply #36 on:** April 10, 2005, 08:06:47 pm »

What about Les Claypool from primus or Cliff Burton from Metallica now those guys play a mean bass...

paigeoliver · « **Reply #37 on:** April 10, 2005, 08:10:41 pm »

Kick had a 1 axis trackball, it could only spin left and right, not up or down. Spinner does the same thing.

Jabba · « **Reply #38 on:** April 10, 2005, 09:32:41 pm »

Quote from: paigeoliver on April 10, 2005, 08:10:41 pm

Kick had a 1 axis trackball, it could only spin left and right, not up or down. Spinner does the same thing.

Thanks for the correction paige. I remember playing that game A LOT when I was younger. I play it on my MAME cab with the spinner. Next time, I think I'll try the trackball and see if it plays better. I think I can disable the proper axis in mame setup... Thanks!

GGKoul · « **Reply #39 on:** April 10, 2005, 10:09:28 pm »

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?board=1%3baction=display%3bthreadid=19817

Tiger-Heli · « **Reply #40 on:** April 11, 2005, 07:11:53 am »

Quote from: GGKoul on April 10, 2005, 10:09:28 pm

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?board=1%3baction=display%3bthreadid=19817

Link that works:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,19817.html

KenToad · « **Reply #41 on:** April 11, 2005, 08:23:39 am »

I can't believe noone mentioned Puzz Loop. It's the only game I can get my fiance to respect me for playing, what with its funky beats and flashing balls in their conga line of slow approaching inevitable doom. Also, I built a spinner for eight bucks using a hodgepodge of the guides you can find in the faq--well worth whatever time you put into it, for the games, the ladies, or whatever.

KenToad

RayB · « **Reply #42 on:** April 11, 2005, 09:18:35 am »

KICK/Kick-Man was one of those "first games" I played a bit too much of when I was about 12. It used a LARGE 2-way trackball. I think part of the challenge in controlling the game was the weight of the trackball. I can see it being a little too easy to play with a Tempest style spinner. And I can say it's difficult to play with a geared spinner (Arkanoid style).

NoOne=NBA= · « **Reply #43 on:** April 11, 2005, 09:31:39 am »

Quote from: KenToad on April 11, 2005, 08:23:39 am

I can't believe noone mentioned Puzz Loop.

I did not!

I COULD have, but I didn't WANT to at the time.

rackoon · « **Reply #44 on:** April 11, 2005, 02:15:47 pm »

Thanks (LILWOLF) for the info on the weighted and geared spinners. Playing Tempest again is my goal, so I will definitely get a weighted one.

And this is projected towards you (WILL)!

FILTHY is it... TREE HUGGER...you say
Well let me tell you this pal. You smell like DEA. Did you work for C.A.M.P in the early 80's. I can still hear the helicopters with the infra-red in my dreams.

First of all, this layer of filth protects my from government enginered bio-weapons.

Second, me and that tree are just good Friends. Nothing happened!
No wait, I was just relieving my self. I never hugged that tree.

I'M JUST KIDDING (WILL)! [friendly hummor]

Will · « **Reply #45 on:** April 11, 2005, 02:30:36 pm »

heheh I'm anti camp!!!!Anyways glad to have another northern cali person on the board..The truth of the matter is I went to that camp:)

teef two · « **Reply #46 on:** April 12, 2005, 08:16:48 am »

Legend of Pythagoras. I was the only one in the pub to complete this!

SirPoonga · « **Reply #47 on:** April 12, 2005, 01:09:55 pm »

Quote from: MajorLag on April 09, 2005, 02:51:11 am

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I have one word for you......

SirPoonga · « **Reply #48 on:** April 12, 2005, 01:14:45 pm »

http://fe.donkeyfly.com/controls/gamesbycontrol.php#Spinner
http://fe.donkeyfly.com/controls/gamesbycontrol.php#Paddle%20(Horizontal)
http://fe.donkeyfly.com/controls/gamesbycontrol.php#360%20Steering%20Wheel

I use my spinner quite abit for lunar lander (thank you Star Roms!), though it is a paddle game.

Personally, I will not have a generic emulation cabinet and NOT be able to play tempest or arkanoid.

I do use the spinner to play Super Off-Road type games. It takes a little getting use to, a steering wheel would be better.

rackoon · « **Reply #49 on:** April 12, 2005, 01:51:29 pm »

Ya know, I was thinking. Yea its dangerous, but hear me out.

Why not mount the spinner in the front center of the cp. AND!.... find a way to stick a steering wheel to it. When not in use, one could remove the steering wheel and use the spinner. And if spinner and steering wheel is not in use, a cap can be placed over the spinner to protect it during heavy play because it would kind of be in the middle of things.
HAS THIS BEEN DONE?!!!
AM I TRIPPING!!!?

Lilwolf · « **Reply #50 on:** April 12, 2005, 02:11:35 pm »

Steering wheels allow you to add torque which would really kill a spinner.

And steering wheels have a MUCH thicker center column. And they are usually very cheap on ebay.

The Man · « **Reply #51 on:** April 12, 2005, 02:14:33 pm »

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The warlords remake is awesome too.

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Where can one look at this, I can't find it?

Only users loose drugs!
TM

Tiger-Heli · « **Reply #52 on:** April 12, 2005, 02:20:01 pm »

Quote from: SirPoonga on April 12, 2005, 01:14:45 pm

I use my spinner quite abit for lunar lander (thank you Star Roms!), though it is a paddle game.

Well, not exactly, Lunar Lander had directional buttons, Start, abort, and an analog throttle for Thrust.

KenToad · « **Reply #53 on:** April 12, 2005, 07:38:38 pm »

Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on April 11, 2005, 09:31:39 am

Quote from: KenToad on April 11, 2005, 08:23:39 am
I can't believe noone mentioned Puzz Loop.

I did not!

I COULD have, but I didn't WANT to at the time.

Yeah, I thought you did, but then someone, oh whatever.

Cheers,

KenToad


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