I dunno if it is the same card, but I own an 8500LE. It has pretty decent 3d support. It am pretty sure it was the best card on the market when i bought it a few yers ago if that is any indication. It is not on a computer that i actually use regularly anymore but the the most recent game i tried to play on it was Unreal tournament 2003. IIRC I was able to set it to max settings without any skipping. I think it displayed at 45 or 50 fps tho. I think It is probably a better idea to snoop around on newegg.com and see what type of cards they have for sale. For a lower priced card that is still decent, I would go for a 9200 or a 9600. The 9000 is a really crappy card. They are way worse than the 8500.