rampy,
yes, thanks for the help. I guess I'll have to get a mounting plate. Did you get it from bobroberts.com or happs?
When I measured 8 wide, I meant from one end of the "football" to the other. Turns out the "football" doesn't mount horizontally like I thought, it's on a diagonal. So the football more resembles a square with opposite corners rounded. And 8 inches is the diagonal measurement