Universal Monitor/Tube mounting brackets - NO LONGER IN STOCK

[1UP]

NO LONGER IN STOCK

These have been out of stock for over a year, but I get requests occasionally, so I thought I'd update this post to avoid confusion.  Sorry folks.

[Ken Layton]

Interesting, but from what it looks like is that you screw the brackets to the cabinet wall with some sheet metal screws? If so that's not enough to support the weight of a 27" tube let alone a whole 27" monitor. You'd need to drill holes in the side of the cabinet and mount with several 1/4" diameter carriage bolts IMO.

[1UP]

Wood screws, actually.

[RandyT]

Interesting, but from what it looks like is that you screw the brackets to the cabinet wall with some sheet metal screws? If so that's not enough to support the weight of a 27" tube let alone a whole 27" monitor. You'd need to drill holes in the side of the cabinet and mount with several 1/4" diameter carriage bolts IMO.

The only force you'd need to be concerned with is "shear", and with that many screws, assuming the sides of the cabinet are immobile, the force required to break it loose would be tremendous.

I suspended a 27" tube just by L-brackets and some heavy duty wire ties.  I wouldn't want to move it around too much like that, but the monitor never budged in the 2 years it was being used, and that arrangement was laughable compared to these!  . 

RandyT

[nostrebor]

My monitor support uses the same theory, just fabricated in wood rather than steel. By usind a fairly large footprint, and spreading several connection points out over that large area, you effectively reduce the pull-out forces of the screws down to a level that will work with a large load. Like RandyT said, the only considerable forces are shearing of the screw shanks. To make it work with wood, i rabbeted out a slot that heavy duty steel L-brackets could drop into. So the monitor hooks to the L-bracket, which is trapped between the cab side and the wood monitor support, thus requiring the bracket to peel the support off the cab side.

I used this same principal in my cab to prevent having any hardware exposed on the sides of the cabinet. The one advantage that I have is that the wood mounting bracket is also glued to the wood side of the cabinet. In a nut shell... it aint goin no-where!

Looks like a great solution to me!

[1UP]

I think the majority of cabinets (either original or BYOAC) use either some kind of bracket, shelf, or wood support that is screwed from the inside.  I've never seen an arcade game with external bolts to support the monitor.  That doesn't mean they don't exist, but most of them have no visible hardware on the side panels.

I originally planned to use SlikStik's brackets on my cabs, but hated the way the external carriage bolts look.  I also needed a custom solution due to space constraints underneath the monitor on my cabs.

This seemed like the best solution given all the factors involved, and it works well.

[Ken Layton]

So does this bracket mount to the tube in it's longest dimension or the shortest dimension?

All Nintendo cabinets secured the monitor with chrome carriage bolts thru the side of the cabinet. So did all the Stern cabinets like Scramble, Berzerk, etc.

[1UP]

So does this bracket mount to the tube in it's longest dimension or the shortest dimension?

Shortest.

[1UP]

Here's an illustration of how the brackets are mounted.

The brackets are designed to support the monitor frame while it is being mounted, so you have both hands free to install the bolts.

[Zakk]

I'd have to concur, I've fabricated a few custom mounts in my day, and I'd say that once this is all bolted together, it would be mighty sturdy.  I'd want to use screws that go pretty much all the way through the wood, and definitely pre-drill the holes, but I couldn't see that giving way even with the machine being bumped around in shipping (which I'm was in mind at the planning stage).

[paigeoliver]

So does this mount a 27" monitor or a 27" TUBE?

[Ken Layton]

So these only mount the monitor horizontally?

[1UP]

So does this mount a 27" monitor or a 27" TUBE?

The tube needs some kind of frame already attached, like what normally comes on a WG D9200 or similar.  It does not need an enclosure.

So these only mount the monitor horizontally?

I'm sure you could use them to mount a monitor vertically or face-up, provided there is something to mount them to.  They might even work in a rotating setup. I have not used them in this application, so I can't say 100%.  I will try to do some testing with different mounting positions when I get time.

That said, I would have to say that they would work pretty much anywhere.  Again, you'd want to use at least 3/4" wood and probably 5/8" or 3/4" screws.

[southpaw13]

So can you confirm that it fits a d9200?  I will probably order a set...Thanks...

Southpaw

[Lilwolf]

btw, I know it might be a little late...

but it would be pretty cool if the mounting brackets came out and had a spot for perfect bezel installs. 

Seems like the bezels always fit at the same depth and would be great to have something that fit with that.


Also, you might want to mention the exact width (inside) that is needed to use these.   

And too bad... I just mounted my bezel a few weeks ago (really after having it for 2 years... and having the cabinet for 5) I could have given you the exact size / locations for an EYGO monitor after taking it out of its case.

[Ken Layton]

I think it would help everyone if pictures could be posted of these brackets (1) actually mounted to a monitor and (2) the whole shebang installed in a cabinet. That would answer many questions.

[1UP]

So can you confirm that it fits a d9200?

[SirPoonga]

That doesn't mean they don't exist, but most of them have no visible hardware on the side panels.

Ask Cthuthuluke (spelling?) in chat.  He got a pc10 cabinet.  It had bolts all over on the side.  I've seen other cabinets with bolts ont he side panels.  Not sure what they are for though.

[SirPoonga]

Man, too bad 25" is the max that can fit in my cabinet

[1UP]

They should work in cabs with anywhere from approx 24.75"-25.45" inside width.

That should answer the width question.

This pic will have to do for now until I can get up to the factory this weekend for photos.

[SirPoonga]

They should work in cabs with anywhere from approx 24.75"-25.45" inside width.

That should answer the width question.

This pic will have to do for now until I can get up to the factory this weekend for photos.

Do you think there would be a demand for 25" monitors.  I've been wanting to pick one up.   I'd have to go home and measure, but I believe I made my cabinet the same width as my double dragon II (dynamo) which I think was 24.75" to the outside.  I will try and remember to measure when I get home.  Otherwise I probably wouldn't mind a 27" if I could fit it.

[1UP]

Do you think there would be a demand for 25" monitors.

[Tailgunner]

From a structural standpoint, I'd tend to side with Ken here. The brackets look sufficiently strong, but I'd still be leery about mounting a 80+ pound monitor to MDF using only a handfull of woodscrews.

Granted, your market isn't one where the cabs will see a lifetime of being bounced from one location to the next in the back of a pickup truck, but you'll still have to ship assembled cabs to the buyers. How many damaged cabs and busted monitors are you willing to eat if the screws prove insufficient to the task?

I'll second Ken's opinion that carraige bolts would be a better solution. I believe Slickstick's monitor brackets mount to their cabs in such a fashion. If your worried about looks, you could countersink the bolt heads prior to laminating the cabs. Alternatively, you might look for some form of adhesive (i.e. Gorrila Glue) to bond the brackets in place in addition to the wood screws.

My 2 cents, FWIW ...

[1UP]

From a structural standpoint, I'd tend to side with Ken here. The brackets look sufficiently strong, but I'd still be leery about mounting a 80+ pound monitor to MDF using only a handfull of woodscrews.

Granted, your market isn't one where the cabs will see a lifetime of being bounced from one location to the next in the back of a pickup truck, but you'll still have to ship assembled cabs to the buyers. How many damaged cabs and busted monitors are you willing to eat if the screws prove insufficient to the task?

I'll second Ken's opinion that carraige bolts would be a better solution. I believe Slickstick's monitor brackets mount to their cabs in such a fashion. If your worried about looks, you could countersink the bolt heads prior to laminating the cabs. Alternatively, you might look for some form of adhesive (i.e. Gorrila Glue) to bond the brackets in place in addition to the wood screws.

My 2 cents, FWIW ...

I have thought of using urethane glue.

[mahuti]

This method sounds much stronger than the real live versions I have in original cabinets in my garage. None of my cabs have carriage bolts on the outside... most of them use glue, routered wood, brackets & screws. Pretty much garbage compared to this.

[Tailgunner]

I have thought of using urethane glue.  This would be preferable to frankenstein bolts.  I think that would pretty much guarantee that the monitor aint going nowhere.

No arguement there. As they say: "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

So I guess in the old days, monitors were just falling out of cabinets all the time?

Nope, they bolted them in place. I have seen what a loose monitor can do to a cab's insides, it's not pretty.

Out of curiousity, what happens when one of these mounting screws gets stripped out or loses it's head during the cab's assembly? How many blown screws would cause you to fail the cab during QC?

Anyway, as I said, when the monitor is bolted in place, the brackets essentially become part of the monitor frame.  This means that the brackets are held to the side walls by SIXTEEN screws, and they can not push inward because they are being held apart by the monitor frame.  Exactly how do you think they are going to give in?

I'm thinking of a cab bouncing around in the back of a semi during a 2,000 mile cross country journey.  Trucks doing the side to side slap when the driver has to jump the curb with the trailer wheels to make a turn. Cab carton/crate being banged around on loading docks by the forklift operators. Stuff I see happening all the time. Some guys can f$%k up a crowbar. You'd be surprised how many of them work in the shipping industry.

Seriously though, I'd suggest at the least taking a prototype, and mounting a dud 9200 monitor from the brackets. Bounce the cab around to simulate what it'll recieve during shipping, and then examine the brackets to see how they hold up. If they do, you're golden.

[1UP]

Nope, they bolted them in place. I have seen what a loose monitor can do to a cab's insides, it's not pretty.

Apparently, many cabs did not bolt thru the sides of the cabinet though.  They were bolted, but only to a bracket or shelf that was screwed into the cab.

Out of curiousity, what happens when one of these mounting screws gets stripped out or loses it's head during the cab's assembly? How many blown screws would cause you to fail the cab during QC?

We use torque limiters, so that is not as likely to happen.  If a screw was blown or stripped, it would be a matter of drilling a new countersunk hole thru the bracket and driving a new screw.

I'm thinking of a cab bouncing around in the back of a semi during a 2,000 mile cross country journey.

[Siffreddi]

1UP,

Is PayPal the only way to reserve one of these?

[1UP]

Why?

[Wade]

I think the majority of cabinets (either original or BYOAC) use either some kind of bracket, shelf, or wood support that is screwed from the inside.

[Siffreddi]

Why?

They accidentally froze my account 2 years ago.  It was their mistake, but the hoops I had to jump through to get it corrected left me pretty unhappy.

I am very interested in your mounting bracket and if I must use PayPal then I will.  I was just wondering if you have any plans to accept credit cards, C.O.D., etc.?

Thanks

[1UP]

I will have credit card billing setup when I put them on my site.  The credit card service costs me more than Paypal does to process a transaction though.

You must not look at many arcade games then... several of mine have the carriage bolts (which hold the monitor brackets) exposed on the outside of the cabinet.  Nintendo and Taito come to mind, even my cocktail T&F has exposed bolts which support the monitor.

Let's put it this way: there are cabinets with and without carriage bolts.  The ones without them generally look better IMHO.  Our cabinets are also very solid, using tongue-and-dado construction, and glue at every joint.  They also have more cross-members than your average cab.

[shmokes]

I don't see what the big deal is.  These would be great either way. If you're set on carriage bolts it'll take you 3 minutes with a drill to increase the size of the holes in these brackets to whatever size it needs to be for your carriage bolts to fit through it.

Certainly a nice feature of these is the ability to use them without carriage bolts, but I don't see how they preclude your ability to use carriage bolts if you want to.

I'm decasing a 27" TV to put in my cab, but it has built-in brackets at each corner.  I think I'm going to take some measurements and see if they'll work with this.  If so this is a no-brainer.

Thanks 1up 

[shmokes]

Oh yeah....and a lip welded or bent onto the bottom of these for bezel and/or glass to sit on would be brilliant.

[1UP]

Oh yeah....and a lip welded or bent onto the bottom of these for bezel and/or glass to sit on would be brilliant.

That's the tricky part.  There's not really any standard for how people will mount their bezels.  Some have the glass secured right under the CP, others have a mirror holder along the bottom, above the CP.  If I made anything for mounting the bezel, it would have to a) be compatible with our cabs, and b) be an add-on part so no one is forced to use it if it becomes a hinderance.

However, I'll look into this option since it's been mentioned a few times here. 

[shmokes]

Yeah...it would be especially handy for people like you, who don't have a fixed surface for things like bezel and glass to sit on because your CP rotates.  It seems like your setup is the ideal candidate for some kind of bezel/glass solution built right into the bracket.

(And people like me since my cab is based on your original plans  )



Edit:  Speaking of preorders bringing the price down, by when does this have to happen to affect the price?  I'm leaving tomorrow for vacation and won't be back into town for a week.  So the earliest I will be able to get to my work to take measurements is like a week from Sunday.  If the dimensions will work for me I'll absolutly be placing an order, though. 

[1UP]

I will need to get 50-100 orders for the price to be affected.

[southpaw13]

Hello, are these still available and how do I get a set?

Thanks,
southpaw

[1UP]

Hello, are these still available and how do I get a set?

Thanks,
southpaw

Yes, and read the first post above.

[1UP]

So close, and yet so far...

I went up to the factory yesterday to get some pictures of the cab and the brackets.  I spent several hours there, then headed out for the long drive home...and left my camera in the plant! 

I have to go back Monday for a meeting, so I'll have pictures for sure on Monday night...

Anyway, I took the monitor out to take a good look at how the brackets were holding up, and after several weeks of being wheeled back and forth across the shop floor, they are still rock solid.  When the monitor was placed back inside, there were no pops or creaks, and when bolted in, the cab was noticeably more rigid than without the monitor installed.  I'll have to take some video of someone shaking the cab back and forth when I go back up tomorrow.