Author Topic: Identify this WG Monitor UPDATED! (Read 13317 times)

stellarola · « **on:** January 02, 2005, 01:52:44 am »

What is the model Wells Gardner makes that the monitor is CGA/EGA (Does standard and medium resolutions). Also its a 25'' inch. Anyone know???

Ken Layton · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2005, 11:42:15 am »

If you are talking about old (discontinued or obsolete) then you might be thinking of the horrid U-5000 which was plagued with many problems.

If you are talking about currently made models, then I suggest calling Wells-Gardner direct and speaking to their sales reps.

stellarola · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2005, 02:11:43 pm »

Quote from: Ken Layton on January 02, 2005, 11:42:15 am

If you are talking about old (discontinued or obsolete) then you might be thinking of the horrid U-5000 which was plagued with many problems.

If you are talking about currently made models, then I suggest calling Wells-Gardner direct and speaking to their sales reps.

I have to wait for this dealer to open up on Monday, but until then...What were the problems that plagued the U-5000?

Grauwulf · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2005, 04:04:31 pm »

if you can post a picture of the monitor chassis, it will help us greatly in ID'ing your monitor.

stellarola · « **Reply #4 on:** January 02, 2005, 09:20:54 pm »

I havent bought it yet. I just talked to some guy on the phone that sells them in Indiana. He said they were CGA/EGA and that its a Wells Gardner replacment unit, new in box for $229. Also its a 25'' inch. So I thought the price was pretty sweet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6141918416&ssPageName=ADME:B:DS:US:28

Grauwulf · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2005, 06:20:29 pm »

Well if it's NIB he should be able to tell you waht the model number is. If it's a U-5000 I'd stay away from it. Is there a reason you're looking for mid-res capability?

stellarola · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2005, 08:46:52 pm »

No reason I'm looking for mid res at all. I just thought 229 was a good price for a new 25'' inch monitor. Whats wrong with the U5000?...just in case it is that model.

Ken Layton · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2005, 12:51:49 am »

Well to start on the U-5000 problems (all of which Wells-Gardner sells repair kits for):

power supply failure

vertical output failure

sudden shutdown

hiperco · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2005, 12:52:33 pm »

I wonder what the story is with this seller. (I've been contemplating buying one of their replacement tubes). Having a private feedback is a little unusual ...

Please post to this thread if you find out anything else about the monitor, it sure would be easier than a tube swap for me

stellarola · « **Reply #9 on:** January 04, 2005, 08:57:42 pm »

Hey I called the distributer again today. He gave me more info on the 25 inch cga/ega monitors. He said they are Wells Gardner "replacements". This means they are made by ALS Marketing, the distributer. He said they are new in box for $229. Also they dont require isolation transformers, they just use the 2 prong AC plug.

I'm making a trip to Indiana this coming Monday to pick one up. I cant wait!

stellarola · « **Reply #10 on:** January 04, 2005, 09:06:00 pm »

Also, the sales rep guy, Frank, super nice guy too.

hiperco · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2005, 09:41:18 pm »

Let us know how you like it!

(Actually, just let me know first, so I can get one before the rest of 'em

)

stellarola · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2005, 01:53:06 am »

Will do.

hiperco · « **Reply #13 on:** January 10, 2005, 06:25:05 pm »

Well??

The suspense is killing me

stellarola · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2005, 01:31:37 am »

Hey I just got back today from the trip to Indiana for the monitor. It was a hell of a trip...the there was a flood on the side of town I was and it sucked man...houses, cars, mobile homes all devoured by it. Aside from that and no teeth (lots of people in the part of Indiana I travelled in didnt have any teeth)...it was a decent trip. Frank the guy who sold me the monitor actually makes tubes and monitors for some big name companys. He said he made monitors for Midway and made tubes for Wells Gardner so I expected great quality.

. Everything was new in box. The monitor was fresh. The unit came with:

-25 inch monitor w/chassis and frame (all put together of course)
-Power cable (Ac)
-Sweet ass molex connecters (high quality!!)
-No instructions (sad to say)

The quality of the picture is superb, havent had any problems. Also it comes with a 90day warrenty, so thats a plus.

Everything is good ya'll. I'll post some pics, but until then...a pic of the flood!!

stellarola · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2005, 01:47:38 am »

Here are some pics of the monitor stuff. The picture of the chassis you will see styrofoam on the tube and other parts...its just from packing, everything is new!

Grauwulf · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2005, 06:11:35 am »

It might be my imagination, but that looks like a Jenn Shinn chassis. Can someone verify that?

M3talhead · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2005, 08:24:58 am »

Great looking monitor.

Can you perform a few screen tests with Nokia's monitor utility? The upper right corner looks a bit off with the "Join the Action" text hidden behind the unviewable portion of the glass. It looks like it matches a portion of the screen at the bottom right, leading me to believe that its not rotated correctly. Does this chassis support screen rotation?

hiperco · « **Reply #18 on:** January 11, 2005, 10:52:33 am »

Looks like a pretty decent monitor, esp for the price. Some questions:

- What are you driving it with? (Arcade VGA?)

- Does it autoswitch between 15 and 25 KHz, or are there separate plugs?

- Did the seller indicate whether the price is a "special introductory" deal?

- Do they have a bunch available? (I don't see many listed on ebay at the moment...)

Ken Layton · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2005, 11:39:52 am »

No, it does not appear to be a Jen Shinn chassis. Might be a Pentranic or a Neotec though.

M3talhead · « **Reply #20 on:** January 11, 2005, 11:46:57 am »

Quote from: hiperco on January 11, 2005, 10:52:33 am

Looks like a pretty decent monitor, esp for the price. Some questions:

- What are you driving it with? (Arcade VGA?)

- Does it autoswitch between 15 and 25 KHz, or are there separate plugs?

- Did the seller indicate whether the price is a "special introductory" deal?

- Do they have a bunch available? (I don't see many listed on ebay at the moment...)

My bet is that this (these) guys do the same thing 8liners.com does, which is buy good tubes and install chassis that run @15khz. Similar prices and chassis.

stellarola · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2005, 12:23:07 pm »

Quote from: M3talhead on January 11, 2005, 08:24:58 am

Great looking monitor.

Can you perform a few screen tests with Nokia's monitor utility? The upper right corner looks a bit off with the "Join the Action" text hidden behind the unviewable portion of the glass. It looks like it matches a portion of the screen at the bottom right, leading me to believe that its not rotated correctly. Does this chassis support screen rotation?

The reason why its hidden is because I scretched out the picture.

. I'll run some tests on it later.

stellarola · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2005, 12:26:20 pm »

Frank, the guy who sold this to me said he makes them. He then sells the monitors to Midway and he said he makes tubes for Wells.

Ken Layton · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2005, 12:30:04 pm »

I wonder if he would provide schematics and/or service manuals for this monitor chassis? Some day they will need to be repaired or need a capkit so manuals would be nice.

If he is making picture tubes for Wells-Gardner then that's great! Wells had so many problems with the Zenith 25" A63ADG series failing prematurely.

stellarola · « **Reply #24 on:** January 11, 2005, 12:32:48 pm »

There is the model #, etc.

Open the picture or save it for a larger photo.

menace · « **Reply #25 on:** January 11, 2005, 02:36:02 pm »

pentranic makes a model 1425--i have one right here--if you could get a good top down shot of the chassis i could confirm or deny whether they were the same thing.

on closer inspection it is a pentranic chassis. Not sure what that means though since I have yet to see any cap kits, schematics, etc for the pentranic.

hiperco · « **Reply #26 on:** January 11, 2005, 04:12:51 pm »

Quote from: stellarola on January 11, 2005, 12:26:20 pm

Frank, the guy who sold this to me said he makes them. He then sells the monitors to Midway and he said he makes tubes for Wells.

I'd be really surprised if they actually make the tubes (not that it matters much, the monitor looks pretty sweet

). Unless they make them off-shore? (Did you see any signs of a factory where they could make them?)

I wonder if they will sell them without going through ebay?

quarterback · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2005, 05:06:08 pm »

Quote from: hiperco on January 11, 2005, 04:12:51 pm

Quote from: stellarola on January 11, 2005, 12:26:20 pm
Frank, the guy who sold this to me said he makes them. He then sells the monitors to Midway and he said he makes tubes for Wells.

I'd be really surprised if they actually make the tubes (not that it matters much, the monitor looks pretty sweet

quarterback · « **Reply #28 on:** January 11, 2005, 05:17:20 pm »

More info from this thread on KLOV forums. The thread started in 08/2003

Link

Also, another small bit of info here

quarterback · « **Reply #29 on:** January 11, 2005, 05:37:40 pm »

Okay, so he definitely used to work for Pentranic USA and now he and his brother? have a couple other webpages, including (but not limited to) the following:

http://www.budget-tubes.com/
http://www.vdomes.com/ (which apparently rents VisionDome 5 digital media theaters in the northeast United States)
http://www.alsmarketing.net/
http://www.alsmarketing.us/

but NOT www.alsmarketing.com

There are schematics on one of those pages.

Ken Layton · « **Reply #30 on:** January 11, 2005, 06:01:47 pm »

The alsmarketing.net has the schematics and appear to be Pentranic/Makvision models.

stellarola · « **Reply #31 on:** January 11, 2005, 11:05:19 pm »

Guys...I just ran the nokia video test. Dudes...the convergence level is terrible. I shouldnt have to mess with the pots on the back, but I did but it still didnt change. Dammit!!!
Good thing I have a 90 day warranty. I will def. be returning this monitor, and getting one of thier replacements.

hiperco · « **Reply #32 on:** January 11, 2005, 11:09:54 pm »

Egads, not so good is it

Don't you typically have to fuss with the yoke & convergence rings to fix convergence problems? (I don't think any of the pots will help this problem...)

stellarola · « **Reply #33 on:** January 11, 2005, 11:24:12 pm »

I have no idea dude...im new at this whole thing. But if the monitor is new..should I have to fuss with it at all?

Ken Layton · « **Reply #34 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:01:12 am »

The pots on the neckboard don't position the colors. That's done with the tabs on the convergence rings. Maybe you bumped the rings during it's trip home?

stellarola · « **Reply #35 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:13:51 am »

Ken, how do these monitors make it on large shipments on trucks? Everything was new in box. Was surrounded by styrofoam, etc. I dunno.

Ken Layton · « **Reply #36 on:** January 12, 2005, 01:47:39 am »

It's always possible for a monitor to get get really knocked about in shipping (especially 25" and larger monitors) to cause convergence problems. If you get another one be sure to show them the pictures of what yours looked like once it was connected. Let us all know if they make good on a replacement monitor.

stellarola · « **Reply #37 on:** January 12, 2005, 01:51:55 am »

Thanks Ken, yea I emailed the seller a picture. A high high quality picture at a resolution of 2048x1536...just to make sure.

Ken Layton · « **Reply #38 on:** January 12, 2005, 01:57:08 am »

I once went thru THREE 25" EGA monitors in a row from Sharp Image Electronics that were damaged right out of the box due to poor packing on their end. It was a mess: circuit boards smashed (some snapped in half!), tube busted, flyback shattered. They were charging us for each monitor even though it was their fault. We never ever purchased anything from them again.

stellarola · « **Reply #39 on:** January 12, 2005, 02:51:37 am »

I'm honestly a little afraid to send it back, only because of one thing....shipping charges. Honestly the packing inside the box was fairly lite. He had a thick clothe at the bottom of the box for the tube to rest on. Then just hard styrofoam around it. No packing peanuts or bubble wrap.


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Author Topic: Identify this WG Monitor *UPDATED!* (Read 13317 times)

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