Photoshop tutorial?

[Howard_Casto]

Well...
Howard do need to see some doctor(the guy just disagrees with everything) and get some treatment.I mean no offence but.....

Trust me..I am not the only one who thinks Howard is weird.

I just saw this one....

Actually I am wierd very wierd.  At least from your perspective.  

But keep this in mind....

All great minds have never been appreciated until years after the fact.  
All artists are only accepted after death.  
All revolutionaries are considered crazy by the general population.  

But yet these are all great men and were only discovered to be great men years later after people could actually digest their wisdom.  

Now I'm in no way saying that's me, but it should make you think.  

You don't want to be the guy made famous for calling Steven Hawking a dumba$$.  



The most unique perspective, wrong or right generally can be turned into the best solution to any given problem.  Even if you strongly disagree it cause you to think more carefully about your own solution and makes it better.  I bring that here... If everyone thought alike then no progress would be made.  I'm sure the first person who decided to rip apart their arcade machine and stick a pc in it was considered crazy.  He doesn't seem so crazy now does he?

[SirPoonga]

You don't want to be the guy made famous for calling Steven Hawking a dumba$$.  

goto mp3.com  search for mc hawking:)

[rampy]

re: MC Hawkings... I love that it's hilarious...

cheap plug... I did a similiar thing...

S. Hawking Karaoke Madness: AirSupply "All out of Love"

It's worth a giggle, eh?

rampy

[Howard_Casto]

DUDE,
You wanna get off my back .Everytime you have somethin to say.NOW drop it already.

Do you know why you make us so mad man?  You butt in.  Like you are now, what did this argument between me and Xiaou2 have to do with you?  But yet you still managed to comment for no over reason to insult us both.  So why don't YOU drop it already.  

If you want to add to the content of the thread than that is great, but keep your personal comments regarding other people on the board to yourself.  Especially when two people are having an argument.  No matter what you say you are going to make one person or the other mad and make things worse.  Is that your intent?

None of us have a problem with you.  What we have a problem with is commenting for the sake of commenting.  You generally don't have anything to say other than some personal comment which doesn't help the orignal poster but insults one of the other posters on the thread.

Some snippetts of some of your previous posts from various threads.....

"OH MAN are you crazy?!?"
"WHAT are you doing that's not good at all?"
"MAN (insert name here)  you are NUTZ!"

Now poking fun is all well and good but you word things in such a way that you aren't poking fun, you are serious.  What relevance do any of these little comments have to anything?  All they do is take up space on the thread, fan the flames to brewing flamewars, and make you seem less and less credible.  

Now when you do have actual input then it's generally good, but it's tainted by all of your other posts so we don't take it as seriously as we would if the advice came from someone else.  

Now mind you I didn't want to have to say these things, but since you asked for it, you got it.  

[Howard_Casto]

re: MC Hawkings... I love that it's hilarious...

cheap plug... I did a similiar thing...

S. Hawking Karaoke Madness: AirSupply "All out of Love"

It's worth a giggle, eh?

rampy

That's some good stuff man.  Don't cha just feel good making fun of others disabilities.  

[SirPoonga]

re: MC Hawkings... I love that it's hilarious...

cheap plug... I did a similiar thing...

S. Hawking Karaoke Madness: AirSupply "All out of Love"

It's worth a giggle, eh?

rampy

That's some good stuff man.  Don't cha just feel good making fun of others disabilities.  

THAT'S why you don't become famous!

[rampy]

re: MC Hawkings... I love that it's hilarious...

cheap plug... I did a similiar thing...

S. Hawking Karaoke Madness: AirSupply "All out of Love"

It's worth a giggle, eh?

rampy

That's some good stuff man.  Don't cha just feel good making fun of others disabilities.  

I know  you're teasing... but:

Heh... well no, i feel a little bad (but i'll trade that bad feeling for a laugh I guess)... but stephen's welcome to make a "Rampy's explanation of astrophysics" parody if he wishes to make fun of my inferior understanding of the universe.  I never posted the flash animation version of it, which was actually even more poor taste.

Oh well... I guess you won't be interseted in my next single Christopher Reeves "Walk like an Egyptian", then?     (bah.. now I'm being in poor taste for poor tastes sake... )

I'd rather read you and Snaaaaake argue, as that's the most entertaining part of this thread (no really...)

rampy

[Howard_Casto]

:-XI surrender

Howard,
I never insulted anyone ever (maybe you because you always make other's project look like crap)

Like you go "hah hah...those pics of your panel are fake "

Does this mean that everything I do is so great that other's projects pale in comparison?  Thanks man

Also you just said that's you never insult anyone and you just insulted me.  

Also regarding that panel that was very much a compliment.  It's the best damn panel I've ever seen.  So much so that I couldn't believe it.  The creator got it but apparently a few negative thinking people "cough cough"  took it the wrong way.  

Be careful man, words are powerful. ;P

[Xiaou2]

:-XI surrender

Howard,
I never insulted anyone ever (maybe you because you always make other's project look like crap)

Like you go "hah hah...those pics of your panel are fake "

Actually, he asked if they were fake.  He couldn't believe they were real.

Second, you have insulted before, especially when you were new to the board.

Third, I was about to reply when the post was just "I Surrender" before you editted it with:

Sigh, some people just don't learn.

  Actually... if you read the post about the fake control panel... he 'ASSUMES' that the panels are fake.  Its not asking if you already assume.  

 As my uncle put it... to assume makes an --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- out of U and ME
 '--I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules--' + 'U' + 'ME'   =  A$$ume

     Lets break it down:

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Quotes:

 I'm not trying to accuse you of anything

(um... no but your assuming which is the same thing...?... and what a bad way to start a post)

... but those are cgi graphics aren't they?

(assuming.  Why not 'Are those CGI pics?' ...instead of...  'THOSE ARE cgi, arnt they?)'

 I mean all of the buttons are perfect and just a little too shiny, plus all of the relections are at exactly the same orientation.  

At first I thought it might be the plexi causing the extra shine, but then noticed that there isn't any reflection on the face of the plexi.  So how in the world could you get refelection on the buttons but not on the plexi?

(might be a good question 'IF' the poster had admitted the work was in fact cgi... but as it stands.. it only adds to the drama of the accusation)

It's a cool design, I really like it, but please level with me, those pics are fake right?

(Why not start out with the 'Positive'?    Also...there is the Assumption again.  Instead of 'are those pics real'   ...its...  
 'those pics ARE fake, right?'.

Please don't take offense to this, it's just they look fake to me and I would much rather see an unaltered pic of your work. I"m sure it looks great, I just wnat to see what it really looks like.  

(instead of stopping with the assumption... he now adds to it with 'I just want to see what it "REALLY" looks like)

Anyway nice job, and if I'm wrong I apologize

(and summing it up with... 'You are wrong... but... if somehow you are right... then im sorry for bashing your work')

End Quotes.
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  Well,  its basically 'Edicate'  that is missing here.   Its not nice to accuse the guy of faking his work.   Assuming = Accuse.

  If I had suspected the person of faking the work  (I typically could care less, as thats that guys problem) ,  I might post something like...

 "Wow, thats a great looking panel.  The artwork is sweet, and the design is cool.    It almost looks like a CGI rendering!  is it??!!   "

  First off... start out 'NICE' & 'POSITIVE' instead of with an 'ATTACK'.   Next, be gentle with your Assumption... if you feel you HAVE to assume.   Instead of a MASSIVE deductive reasoning... a small, 'almost joking' means of inquisition would be a nicer way to provoke a response.  (... and a lesser mess when you get EGG all over your face for being wrong)

  First off... IF the guy was Lieing... do you honestly think he would admit it?     Why even ask?   Why is it that you care sooo much that someone fakes  a project?   If they dont have a real project.. its thier loss !!! : )  lol

     
 


     

[Xiaou2]

Part 2    (post was too long for 1 posting)


 As far as Snake is concerned... I dont think he was nessessarily right to call you weird.   But I think it was more of a means of not liking the ways in whick Howard responds to others meanly... and so too was being a bit mean in response.     Only problem... is that dosnt solve anything.

 Sometimes even with a correct and moral stance... people who TRY to argue with a person who is so negative, verbally abusive, or simply lieing to themselves in thier own twisted logic... makes you exausted... and you want to just give up in disgust.
(its bad enough that they provoke you... then on top of that... you have to waste your time and energy on trying to spank them.  Too bad thier momies didnt do the job right!)

 Ive felt this way.   And  also... sometimes... many dont even speak thier minds for fear of a long and hard battle of an argument.   In this way... they take the abuse and swallow it... becomming intraverted and damaged inside.   I was like this for a long time... untill someone pushed me to near insanity.   It was either I 'push back' or... go to live in a room with padded walls.

 Actually, my Uncle 'almost' got physically assaulted by me...for all the verbal abuse I took from him over the course of too many years.

 Such people who have to be so negative and RIP people appart usually have major issues... so I do feel somewhat sorry for them... but on the other hand... thier abuse shouldnt be tolerated, and since they have no sympathy for you... you should remember this... and fight back.    

 I never thought that anything I screamed (you had to scream to get a word in)   had an effect on my stubborn and twisted uncle... untill one day when he started with me and I retaliated... he told me to shut up... and to go away - instead of arguing (arguing without listenting was normally his favorite adventure).

 Mind you... it took a lot of screaming matches to get that far.   Some time later... he finally listens a LITLLE better... and is not so consistantly abusive.   Only seems to provoke people once every few months rather than on a daily basis.

[CD_Vision]

What is this crap? You are acting like little children. We all came to this board to share knowledge, not act like ---uvulas---. There are 1,000,003 other BBS's to do this garbage on, why spread to this one too?

Look, let's try to keep things civil here, huh? Or is that just too damn hard for you to do.

BTW- to those who helped me, thanks very much!!

[Howard_Casto]

I apologize on behalf of everyone.  

Quite frankly you should be looking at one person as to who started this, (I won't name names, just read and you'll figure it out.)  by taking something I said totally out of context and then replying extremely rudely to my post.  This isn't a matter or acting like children, it's a matter of no one can talk to me that way and not expect a stern response at best.  I even apologized to this person, only to have them reply bitterly instead of accepting my apology.  Now in my book that makes me in a much better class fromt his other person.  Also the other guy who we were currently taking to annoyed sirp any myself by trying to re-start the flames.  I don't think he did anything as bad as this other, more childish poster, but unfortunately, as you can see he did manage to get everyone pissed, which was what we were trying to prevent.  of course no good deed goes unpunished around here anymore.  I try to give you some legitimate advice considering I am very qualified in this field of questioning.  

I'm sorry that this had to happen, but please don't lump everyone of us in with that one particular poster.  I never say this because I rarely believe it, but I can honestly say that we are all better than him and don't deserve the comparison. I've never seen anyone blow up over a single word like that, and not be able to let it go.  He really needs help and I feel for him.  I hope someday he realizes he has a problem and gets some help.  

(continued)

[Howard_Casto]

Now perhaps this post will be looked upon as a way to make me seem just a childish and that's ok, I can take the critizism.  But I'm pretty much sick and tired of people fighting over how something is phrased or how strongly someone feels their opinon is right when there is good content to be gain from either perspective.  

Let me explain something to you people.  This is America (for you foreign posters, this is primarily an American board so this also applys to you.)  There is going to be free, uncensored, posts on this board.  If you are offended by something on this board then you have a right to be angry, but you must reailze that it's YOU you have the problem, not the original poster. You can write any opinon and at least one person will find it offensive.  The key is dealing with it properly.  If someone used a racial slur, or foul language or otherwise hostile  comments towards you as a person, then you have every excuse to pitch a fit.  But if someone says you are wrong, or that they don't like your idea, or that your facts are mistaken then you shouldn't respond with crazy, hostile posts.  Also don't butt in.  If two people are having a fight it is not apporpriate to make little comments about the fight or the people involved.  That is just common sense and good manners.  Now playing the part of the mediator is a totally different animal. But let me give some of you would be mediators a bit of advice (and no offense but this includes you cd vision).  When trying to stop a fight, the worst thing you can possibly do is inslut any or all of the partys involved.  

What did you think would happen when you basically said that half of the people on the thread were acting childish man?  That we would say "oh your right I'll calm down now."  I know from your perspective that makes sense, but when your on the other end of the negative comment all it does is make you more angry, even if what you are saying is true and makes good sense (which btw it does in this case)  

(continued)

[Howard_Casto]

I'll be honest with you, it made me a little mad when you posted that, and that's why I started this message but I got over it and decided to give some constructive criticism instead of going crazy.  I know you were trying to help and I respect that, and I appreciate it, but you went about it the wrong way.    

Anyway, the top of this message is a little harsh, but believe me it's meant to help put this other poster's actions into perspective.  I know he will read it and probably explode over it, but I'm telling him these things for his own good, as I honestly don't understand how he could still be mad. I tried to word it nicely but when I did then my point didn't come across.  For that I truely do apoligize.  Sometimes good advice is hurtful and I'm sorry for that.    

And since someone will undoubtedly want to post a response pointing out all of my flaws I will save you the time.  

I get angry easily.  That is my only flaw worth mentioning. I am strongly opinionated but I consider that a strength as I use counter points  in a debate style fashion rather than saying "nuh uh"  as a few on the mesage board are so fond of doing.  If you direct a post towards me in a very rude manner, insult me using slurs or insults, or respond in a way that is disrespectful towards me I will get VERY angry and I will respond with the same disrespect that you gave me.  To me that seems very human, but your mileage may vary.  But the difference is....  I get over it, and when I do if I feel I was out of line I apoligize.  Also if I didn't read something right and take offense to it I do my very best to see it from their perspective before I go all crazy and lash out at them.  That doesn't mean I haven't done it before as I'm only human, but I try very hard not to.  

Now on the flip side of that if you are nice to me I am the nicest, most helpful person you'll ever meet.  Ask around, I don't go looking to start arguments on this board, I help a ton of people.  I've started several perojects, developed software and started open discussions on projects that will make all of our mameing lives a little easier.  I know that some people don't seem to get along with me beause I'm very frank and to the point (which is mis-concieved as rudeness)  but trust me, I'm one of the good guys.  My cabinet is built, my software is running, I don't need this forum anymore for all intensive purposes.  

I still give advice and create software partially for your benefit. I also do it because in general you are all a great bunch of guys and I like sharing my knowledge and little side projects with you.  The reason I bring this up is this....

Why are you guys here?  This is a retorical question and not directed specifically towards anyone btw.  The cold facts are this.  Most of us are here because we want information.  A lot of us are here because we enjoy the company of the regulars and throw in our two cents once in a while when we feel like it.  Some of us are here beause we want to give back.  Even fewer of us are here simply to be good guys and help people out even though we have seldom gotten any new advice from this forum.  Some of us fit in multiple categories.  

I personally probably fall somewhere  between the second and third ones.   At least in my opinon that justify's me being here.  If you are only in the first two and cause a lot of problems with others, then you should probably leave.  If all you are doing is taking and are causing trouble then it's probably your fault as you came with the intention of getting what you want regardless.  However if you also feel that you fall into the 3rd and forth categories then you have every right to be here, even if you cause some trouble from time to time.  The difference is these people are here with somewhat less-selfish reasons and are intentionally trying to do good.  As I said this isn't directed towards anyone in particular, I just wrote it so hopefully some of you who are upset can gain some perspective.  

Afterall guys, the only thing we ever talk about on this board is arcade games and controls.  Is any of that really worth getting upset over?  

Give peace a chance and don't forget to keep your stick out on the ice.  Remember we are all in this together.

From this point forward, whenver you see a flame war errupting point the parties involved to this post.  Don't say a word, don't get mad just tell them to read this before they reply again.  I think I've covered everything regarding how to treat people or at least enough to help some people gain perspective.  I hope some people get something out of this and all parties involved with this disaster take it on the postive as it was intended.

Thank you for your time,

HAC

[Brax]

This needs to be locked.

This board is a great source for info and everything, but who wants to wade through this crap all the time. This is the reason I visit this board about every week now instead of everyday like I used to.

[SirPoonga]

This needs to be locked.

This board is a great source for info and everything, but who wants to wade through this crap all the time. This is the reason I visit this board about every week now instead of everyday like I used to.

Yeah, I'm sorry too.  

We all do these little one liner posts, usually to put in a punchline.  That's all fine BUT some people do nothing but useless oneliners.  Like you I don't like crap cluttering up the board.  But the only way to stop it is to confront it directly, since I'm not an admin.  So it finally pissed me off enough I had to try and put a stop to it.  So the only way to stop it is to not just watch it happen....

[SNAAAKE]

Quite frankly you should be looking at one person as to who started this, (I won't name names,

Wasn't me....

Sirpoonga started things with the quote "go the mp3.com to find out more about some $hit".

Now what does >>MP3.com<<  has anything to do with photoshop?

Some people are just too weird.

CD_VISION,

I apologize for some useless comments.

[Howard_Casto]

I apologize on behalf of everyone.  

Quite frankly you should be looking at one person as to who started this, (I won't name names,

Wasn't me....

Sirpoonga started things with the quote "go the mp3.com to find out more about some $hit".

Now what does >>MP3.com<<  has anything to do with photoshop?

Some people are just too weird.

CD_VISION,

I apologize for some useless comments.

No it wasn't you.... but it definately wasn't sirp either.... go back and actually read the dialog, you'll figure it out.  Btw I have no clue what your point was with that post, as I said no good deed goes un-punished around here.  

Maybe you didn't mean it that way Brax, but it sounds like you called my last post crap.  I poured my heart and a few hours of my time into that last post to try to bring peace to the board.  I sincerely hope that that's not what you meant.  As I said no good deed goes un-punished.    

[SirPoonga]

Well, I could easily reply to Snaaake's comment, especially since he decided to point fingers.  BUT, I'll PM him instead.  At least I see I am starting to get through to him, he deleted a bunch of his posts.

Snaaake, you're not the only one on this board, you even complain about others.  Think about that.

[phantompower]

Lot of side conversations here, but...CD_Vision...

I was the one who created the art on MameStation II.  Several at the beginning really defined what I did.

The expertise with Photoshop came with being able to manipulate smaller image elements into larger, non-pixelated work.

One of the most valuable lessons to learn is the DPI of inidividual artwork and how to make it all fit together, both in white and dark space and overall color palettes.

Hope this helps.  Feel free to drop me an email if you have any questions.

I owe you since, I believe, it was your site that inspired me to solder to the console controllers to make my own PS2 and DC arcade sticks!!

Chuck