Re: Automate The Ripping Process For MP3's

[sWampy]

$2 a cd seems like a great deal, after paying $10-$15 a cd for the songs, to have them backed up to mp3, with correct names, album art, id3 tags sounds like a good deal.   It ends up taking 10-15 minutes a cd to do even with a fast setup when you take into account having to deal with drity cds, scratched cds, cds where there are multiple cds in cddb/amazon and you have to manually figureout which album it really is.

[DrewKaree]

A reply to a three month old issue that has NOTHING to do with the thread?

I take issue with your post for the following reasons:

First, the thread is about ripping your songs to mp3.  However you choose to back them up  - I don't care, couldn't care less, and is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Second, as stated before, that'd cost upwards of $500-600 for two of the folks here.  Now, what you see as a great deal by someone shilling for a product/service is simply foolishness if you are using this thread as it was intended.  If you are using this information to rip your songs from your CD's, you're already showing that you have no desire to pay someone to do for you what you can do yourself.

Third, the reason I posted this in this forum is that the people building a jukebox need their songs ripped to mp3, not put onto yet another medium identical to the one that already doesn't work, hence the need to rip to mp3

Fourth, and finally, the thread wasn't created as a discussion for how best archive your music.  If you REALLY wanted quality backups of your CD's, then the service that overcharges to take your music and degrade the quality by converting it to a format that inherently will be worse than your CD's were is the complete and total wrong way to go about "archiving" your precious and expensive music collection.  There are MANY flaws with the service she was offering, not the least of which was that she should have posted it where it belonged, in the buy/sell/trade forum.

[sWampy]

First, the thread is about ripping your songs to mp3.  However you choose to back them up  - I don't care, couldn't care less, and is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

 

They can rip CDs in any CODEC and any Bitrate.   They can/do rip to mp3's, excatly what the thread is talking about. 

I was just commenting cause you didn't seem to have a clue that they were ripping to mp3, still don't I guess.

[DrewKaree]

Let me help clear this up.  This is a tutorial to rip mp3's to your HARD DRIVE. 

In case you didn't smell what The Rock was cooking there, that phrase means you're ripping your CD's to a format in order to play them with Jukebox software without having to continually insert/remove a CD in order to play your music collection.  In order to do so, you must rip your CD's to your hard drive.  Having them archived to DVD's is useless for that purpose, therefore, this thread was created to help a person do just that.  Nothing more.  Obviously you haven't read my reply to kortney regarding this very issue yet, so for your enjoyment:

Your service puts them on DVD.  Great for archival use, which is their niche.  Now, how do we use them from the DVD?  Same way as the CD's we originally had.  Therefore, the process will still be needed.....rip them to a computer.

I'm quite clear on kortney the shill (that means someone here pretending to be helping, when they're actually trying to sell their product) and what she said about her different codecs.  It still has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. 

So that you will no longer be guessing the intent of the thread - I'll lay it out so you can't claim cornfusion no mo'.



This thread is to help you rip your CD's to mp3 format ON YOUR HARD DRIVE in order to be able to use them ON YOUR JUKEBOX.  This thread  --IS NOT--  about archiving your CD's to another media format.



I believe everyone else was on the same page as I was, except the saleswoman  shill  "helpful reader" kortney and you.   

Hopefully I cleared up all your misconceptions about the purpose of this thread.  I can only think that now that it's been laid out for you, this won't require more drastic measures in order to contain/remove your posts contrary to the spirit of this thread.  Having GIVEN you the spirit of the thread, it should be pretty clear now.  Only time will tell.

Regards
DK

[billf]

Okay maybe I'm missing something (and correct me if I'm wrong), but wouldn't that service really qualify as "automating the ripping process for MP3s"?  And isn't that the subject of this post?  They rip your CD's to whatever format you specify (for this discussion MP3s) and put them onto DVDs.  Then when you get the DVDs back, can't you just copy them off the DVD?  I don't have a DVD drive in my computer so I'm not sure if this is possible, but I was under the impression that the DVDs would come back to you with your music in .mp3 format so you could then transfer them to your computer, iPod, etc.  To me this is pretty much 'automated'.  They do most of the work and then you copy a few DVDs worth of info to your computer.  Voila, done.

I know this tutorial was mainly written up as a tutorial for ripping CDs to your hard drive.  And its an excellent step by step tutorial.  But the subject and the first post don't really mention that this tutorial is exclusively for ripping directly to a hard drive.  I thought the service was a valid alternative to doing the entire ripping process yourself and it seems 'automated'.  I personally won't be using the service.  It would cost almost $800 for my collection and my collection is already ripped.

Once again, if I'm wrong on something, please correct me. 

[DrewKaree]

Okay maybe I'm missing something (and correct me if I'm wrong), but wouldn't that service really qualify as "automating the ripping process for MP3s"?

Lemme see if this works - I copied this for Joe BYOAC to "automate" the process of ripping his CD's to his HD.  If you paid someone to sit there holding the autofire button on some console game and they set a high score, would you claim the high score as your own (don't answer if you're a shnook )?

Also, this is for automating the process of getting the CD's onto your hard drive, not onto disc media.

And isn't that the subject of this post?

nope.  Please see the bove post as to what the intent of this is, and who this is intended to benefit.

Then when you get the DVDs back, can't you just copy them off the DVD?

Sure you can, however, this is intended to be used to rip your CD's onto your HD.  Why not skip the middle man, since you'd eventually put them onto your HD anyway? 

Either way you're going to have to insert discs into your machine.  Personally I'd like to control the burning to whatever media I want, and I find the prospect of paying someone ELSE $500+ (in my case) to do something I am going to be doing anyway a bit excessive.  There is no price point I'm willing to pay someone to do for me that which I'm capable, computer wise, as "free" doesn't count as a price point 

What do you do if some of your media gets broken in transit?  Sure, package insurance will compensate you for the cost, but now you've got to go out and buy 'em again.  By ripping them onto your HD, you can do whatever you wish with them.  If you wish to have them create the DVD's for you, beautiful.  You still haven't automated the process of getting the files to your HD

But the subject and the first post don't really mention that this tutorial is exclusively for ripping directly to a hard drive.

I'll rephrase, since terms seem to be what the snag is - the process you are referring to is "archiving your CD's to a different disc based media".  If I had used the term CD/DVD wherever CD was simply used, would that make it better?  This is for ripping from optical media to your HD.  When, in the first post, it refers to setting up your folder hierarchy, it quite simply isn't referring to anything other than your HD - perhaps a USB disk or external HD, but a drive nonetheless, not alternate media.

Bill, welcome to the boards!  I appreciate your post.

[user1]

And what if you have to/want to format your harddrive? Wouldn't it then be great to have your whole mp3 collection on a couple of DVDs..? 

[DrewKaree]

And what if you have to/want to format your harddrive? Wouldn't it then be great to have your whole mp3 collection on a couple of DVDs..? 

Left the house without your helmet again, I see. 

Perhaps your apathy towards reading what's actually posted can be overcome over time, but until then, I'm going to have to ask you to refrain from tryig to "help".  Nice second post.  You'll find it easier to offer useful help once you get out of your current predicament, shown below.

[oceanman93]

And what if you have to/want to format your harddrive? Wouldn't it then be great to have your whole mp3 collection on a couple of DVDs..?

[JohnNevets]

Drew,
First off, great tutorial!  I have the next week off from work and plan on using part of that time to rip a good chunk of my collection that isn't already.

But the whole reason I started writing this reply was to stick the definition of "ripping" in your face because my understanding of it was that ripping was just the process of extracting the bits from one format too another, end statement.  Hence I thought the name came from the actual act of pulling (or ripping) the data out.  But I WAS WRONG!!, at least according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping.  Here they make a point of saying that the end product of the ripping ends up on a hard drive.  I'm assuming others had the same connotation to ripping as I did, and that's why you were given such a hard time about the whole ending up on a hard drive thing.

Thanks again for the tutorial. Damm I hate it when I'm wrong, oh well.

John

[DrewKaree]

I'm just glad a mod split this stuff out from the thread.  I locked the thread so others can reply HERE if they need to.

You may be correct as to why they found a problem with it, I dunno.

I totally view "Kortney" to be a rep from that company looking to pimp her product - if you'll notice her single and ONLY post was for here, and has never had another word for us no matter what. 

My beef is with her pimping a service, and the (to me, and to others once they do the math on their personal collection) unrealistic price given that after ripping them for your jukebox, if you like the concept she's pimping, you can do it yourself for free! 

You'll see LOTS of folks here doing stuff that are the same or done better by products - it's all about the tinkering and the "I did it myself" factor. 

Even if I had the money to spend, I simply can't justify spending over $500 bucks to do this!


One more thing - I wanna make sure folks know this was copied from Maximum PC, and fine tuned ever so slightly, maybe a dozen words or so - I have used this since the first time they published it, it wasn't set up this nice, so when they dedicated an entire article to it, I wanted to share with you guys who don't get/read Maximum PC. 

I appreciate all the "good job" comments, but the only good job by me is my typing