**UPDATE 12/14!!! ** "Mr. Arcade"

[flampoo]

OK, this thread has moved beyond civil. Parts are being nuked to post hell. Keep it civil people. Thanks.

CENSORSHIP RULES!

[danny_galaga]

If you don't receive an item you paid for by mail you can file mail fraud charges for free.

[Sephroth57]

OK, this thread has moved beyond civil. Parts are being nuked to post hell. Keep it civil people. Thanks.

hey that wasnt necessary... all i said was i would go to his house if he was near me with my friends that are 6'6, we would just come over to play 4 player halo... duh what did you think i meant

[Crazy Cooter]

What you guys should do is this:
Mamemaster calls the cops in this guys area.  He talks to a detective and explains what is going on.  The detective will give out his contact information to pass along.  All you other guys that have been ripped off can call that detective.  The detective will pay a visit.

If you guys want to give him like 14 days, tell the detective that.  He will pass the info along.  If the guy ignores everything, he will get criminal charges against him.  It will be a total value for the charges, so if it all adds up to $400 (or whatever the limit is) it will be a felony charge.  Believe me, your stuff will ship the day after the detective visits, or you will be reimbursed.

Don't sit around and give him time.  He offered the stuff and said what he would ship and when.  He didn't do it.  Call the cops.

[1UP]

Personally I think he might be a little short on cash, and/or over his head. Lets see what he says. I am not freaking out about it yet.

Being short of cash is no excuse for not sending out your stuff.  If you've paid him for shipping as well, how does it cost him anything to do it?  I was broke as hell when I recently sold stuff here and on ebay, but I didn't let that stop me from sending out the packages within a couple of days after payment.

Sounds more like he might be selling the goods to more than one person, then delaying refunds to buy himself more time.  Not cool.

Also, if he is having financial difficulties, it's not going to help matters any if he ends up having to pay bail...if he screws enough people, he could have a class action lawsuit headed his way as well.

Bottom line: if you don't have the goods, don't take the orders.  I am still in pretty deep financial need myself, and I have a waiting list for my cabs that I could take advance orders from today, to help me through this tough month.

But as I don't even have my prototype back yet, it would be very unwise to go this route in case it takes another month or two to have the first batch of cabinets made.  I wouldn't want to start business with a black eye... 

[missioncontrol]

If you don't receive an item you paid for by mail you can file mail fraud charges for free.

[DarkKobold]

OK, this thread has moved beyond civil. Parts are being nuked to post hell. Keep it civil people. Thanks.

CENSORSHIP RULES!

[JackTucky]

Mamemaster:

Sorry you got ripped off, but didn't this make you think twice?

"He insisted on IMMEDIATE payment and a bank check. I got the check made out from my bank for $270. and sent it to him right away."

That would have made me not buy.  Even though paypal sucks, they do freeze the sellers account QUICKLY if you complain, and that has saved me more than once.

Art

[DrewKaree]

CENSORSHIP RULES! 

I'd like to remind you, while freedom of speech exists in America, that doesn't mean everything American must allow free speech.

To put it in a physical sense, if you walk into Drew Karee's house, and start talking Bush hating, he has every right to kick you out. Personal property. Same if you go into GKGhoul's house and start talking Kerry smack.

This board is Saint's personal property. He can censor whatever he chooses. 

It offends me people go off about freedom of speech on a forum. You want to speak freely? Start your own forum.

Amen brutha.  If you leave my house with a BOOT in yer ayse, THEN you've got something to complain about, but freedom of speech, it ain't.



Now, back to the topic - I'd start by calling his local authorities, then I'd ALSO start the mail fraud thingy.  TWO "dude, you'd better pay up" visits will get his attention quicker, and will also serve notice that there are more folks out there aware of his actions and that he is quickly becoming a criminal, instead of just a common slacker.

As for what 1UP said, I say righto!  You guys had to SEND him money - it's not like you were asking him to ship it first and then you'd pay him later.  You SENT him the money he would require to send your products to you.  Either he is a scammer, or he's just a common slacker who wants to shirk his responsibility to people who sent him money in good faith.

There simply is not an excuse for this stuff.  He asked you to send him money in a specific fashion, which you had to put aside "personal problems" you may have had in order to go get it.  It also assumes that his "personal problems" are more important than yours, as now your wife is making YOUR life more unpleasant.  The "personal problems" argument is simply an apathetic response which you simply cannot accept. 

While I have no knowledge or dealings with this individual, it appears as if avoidance, excuses, and general disregard for buyers is a hallmark, and one that will happen in the future.

Thank you for your alert to this person. 

[MameMaster!]

Just so everyone knows....I've emailed "Mr. Arcade" to his email address letting him know I would be posting this.

I sent it to his posted BYOAC email address of--

mrarcade@bright.net

(Just in case anyone else would like to say hello to Mr. Arcade)

AND I PM'd him through this forum....I haven't yet called him. According to his profile the last time he was on the site was 11/27....so for kicks I'm going to give him a few days to catch up with this thread.

I'm really bummed he's obviously screwed more than me....I'm guessing I'm really never going to see that Yoke or my $$.

I agree w/1 Up...I have a feeling he's selling the same parts to more than one person.

Don't you guys agree that it's really pathetic to do this for arcade parts?.....I'm still in disbelief!...

I know...it's hard to imagine a hard core

[Lilwolf]

not sure, but you might be able to sue him in NYC's small claims court.  Not sure.    But worth looking into it.

As for the freedom of speech... Keep it clean.  Forums can go down hill SO FAST it will make your head turn... Starts with one thread where its justified... Then you will get people threatening front end devs for not adding a feature they want and say they will go to their home (really... why most mamedevs stopped looking at a lot of forums)

As for people who have been ripped off by others...  I personally think that you should mention it.  Tell facts and not opinions of that person.  Why?  I wouldn't have thought twice about buying from Mr Arcade.  I've seen him here for years and would have thought he was credible...

Good to keep an eye out.  I don't have all that much for my hobbie..and would hate to loose more...

[MameMaster!]

...I agree.

In particular that's why I tried so hard to resolve this with him over and over for months (via phone/email) to no avail. I warned him I would post....and he responded by saying "...if you feel the need to..."......


well, that's why we're here today.

At least we're ALL aware of this guy now...as there's obviously a pattern here from "Mr. Arcade."

[krick]

I'm not taking sides here or anything but I just wanted to let everybody know that I had a productive email exchange with Ron back in October that resulted in him providing a redump of the infamous "Sport Fishing 2" CD (sfish2.chd in MAME).

[paigeoliver]

I spent several hours talking to Ron at the last auction, but that doesn't change the fact that he owes me money, has ignored my emails about it, yet is on RGP trying to buy $1000 pinball machines.

[RetroJames]

I spent several hours talking to Ron at the last auction, but that doesn't change the fact that he owes me money, has ignored my emails about it, yet is on RGP trying to buy $1000 pinball machines.

Wow, Paige is right.  On Dec 1 the guy is angling to buy a $975 pin.  Yeesh.

MM, you might post a "bad trader alert" on RGP, RGVAC, etc.  If he is trying to do deals on those boards, it may get his attention to have the negative publicity.  Good luck.







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If you have accurately described the pins, I will take the Black Rose.

Please reply with your info.

PS

"Shadow" <mjpinballs@aol.com> wrote in message
news:2a368fcd.0412010723.2a27f16a@posting.google.com...
> Both pins are shopped and 100% working.The Black Rose does have some
> wear by the cannon other than that a very nice pin.The Doctor Who is
> in very good condtion.
> Black Rose 975.00
> Doctor Who 1200.00

[MameMaster!]

WOW....this gets better and better. He told me his personal problems were $$ related....now I'M REALLY MAD.
The fact he's trying to buy a pin with MY FRIGGIN' HARD EARNED MONEY is really beyond belief.

I just tried calling his home phone...but it may be disconnected.

.....this guy is a real SOB.

 

[RetroJames]

WOW....this gets better and better. He told me his personal problems were $$ related....now I'M REALLY MAD.
The fact he's trying to buy a pin with MY FRIGGIN' HARD EARNED MONEY is really beyond belief.

I just tried calling his home phone...but it may be disconnected.

.....this guy is a real SOB.

 

Yeah, I have been following this thread and was leaning towards wondering if he had a personal tragedy or illness etc.  that might explain the apparently sudden inability to keep his commitments, but seeing that pin post is unreal.  I HIGHLY suggest you post a bad trader alert on RGP, RGVA*, and even Alt.Mame.  Anyone else who has been burned should do the same or add to your thread(s) after they are posted.  The folks in RGP will tear him a new one and it might put the kybosh on his pinball purchasing.

Don't let someone else get burned by this a**hole.

[Harry Potter]

Just noticed Mr Arcade is listed in the 'Good traders' topic on Buy Trade Sell.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,24115.0.html

Call the law 

[MameMaster!]

...I have a call into his local police dept. I'm waiting to hear back.

[Floyd10]

Just noticed Mr Arcade is listed in the 'Good traders' topic on Buy Trade Sell.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,24115.0.html

Call the law

[Stingray]

...I have a call into his local police dept. I'm waiting to hear back.

Well done. After learning that the guy is in the market for a pin, I feel quite certain that we're dealing with a scumbag here. Hope his local police are able to help you out.

-S

[Chemixtry]

Mamemaster - I'll back you up about the swindling if you post on any other boards.

I cant believe he is trying to buy a pin with money he has taken from BYOAC members! When I asked him a MONTH ago what was the delay he offered to add something extra to make up for the delay. How about sending the stuff I paid for to start!!

I hope he gets a stocking full of reindeer sh*&

[MameMaster!]

just out of curiosity...how much are we out here as a group with this a**hole?

I'm in for $270.

[MameMaster!]

Mamemaster:

Sorry you got ripped off, but didn't this make you think twice?

"He insisted on IMMEDIATE payment and a bank check. I got the check made out from my bank for $270. and sent it to him right away."

That would have made me not buy.

[Stingray]

I see in your other thread that you have now contacted the police in his area. I hope they are able to help you out before the dirtball buys that pinball machine he's been shopping for.

-S

[JackTucky]

You're 100% correct...yes it did. But my desire for the hard to come by part (the yoke)...and the fact that he's  "one of us" overrode my instinct. I saw the red flags...but choose to ignore them....and I literally paid for that.

Glad you didn't think I was blaming you.  For some reason I thought my post had been deleted.

Maybe the cops will have a slow day there and go knock on his door.  That would probably scare the s*it out of him.

Art

[NIVO]

Floyd10......how is NIVO gonna get flamed? My trading post, notice the date.....was long ago and he and I personally made 2 deals with each other that were fine. My dealing has nothing to do with the current problem going on between mr arcade and mamemaster. Dont bring me into this problem. While I am aware and reading as to what has been going on, I am sorry to see it even happen. Things like this give the whole hobby a bad name in general. I take no side in this matter as I am a moderator and my duty is to remain neutral and objective. You, Floyd10 are wrong to point me out.

[Mameotron]

Amen brutha.

[Chemixtry]

just out of curiosity...how much are we out here as a group with this a**hole?

I'm in for $270.   

I'm in for $85 for two steering wheels. 

[Floyd10]

Floyd10......how is NIVO gonna get flamed? My trading post, notice the date.....was long ago and he and I personally made 2 deals with each other that were fine. My dealing has nothing to do with the current problem going on between mr arcade and mamemaster. Dont bring me into this problem. While I am aware and reading as to what has been going on, I am sorry to see it even happen. Things like this give the whole hobby a bad name in general. I take no side in this matter as I am a moderator and my duty is to remain neutral and objective. You, Floyd10 are wrong to point me out.

I was just trying to make light of this shi'ite.
I wasnt attacking you, so please dont attack me.
and If i wanted to flame you I would

[saint]

Flaming on this board gets you banned from this board.  Behave.

[DrewKaree]

Amen brutha.  If you leave my house with a BOOT in yer ayse, THEN you've got something to complain about, but freedom of speech, it ain't.

Wait a minute Drew, I thought it was DAS BOOT!
I can see me leaving your house with that in my ayse!

Oh Yeah, 

what was I theenkin' man!  Tanks fer da reminder...I'll try not to forget that again

If, by the ommision of Das from my post I have let anyone down, please, feel free to do this to me 

[RetroJames]

just out of curiosity...how much are we out here as a group with this a**hole?

I'm in for $270.

[MameMaster!]

FYI- I'm on the phone with the St. Mary's police dept.

Their number is 419.394.2325 in the event anyone else would like to report this to them.

The officer I spoke with is officer "Reiher". He's trying to determine if this is a job for them or another law enforcement ageny since this involves mail fraud which is a federal crime.

I'm forwarding to him this email thread along with other items I have from Ron.

I'll keep you guys updated.

MR. ARCADE.....YOU'RE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE NOW.

[Harry Potter]

I'm forwarding to him this email thread along with other items I have from Ron.

If this goes to trial, can I get one of those black rectangles over my eyes.

[RetroJames]

If this goes to trial, can I get one of those black rectangles over my eyes. 

Put me down for the "blue dot"!!!!!

[Stingray]

MR. ARCADE.....YOU'RE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE NOW.

[DrewKaree]

I'm forwarding to him this email thread along with other items I have from Ron.

If this goes to trial, can I get one of those black rectangles over my eyes.

I don't want the black rectangle, I want just the opposite.  I may have to provide my own distortion

[Floyd10]

I'll be willing to go on the stand, as if Id add anything to it... (I can tell them about how good of a member you are)

[MameMaster!]

I'll be willing to go on the stand, as if Id add anything to it... (I can tell them about how good of a member you are)

awww....shucks. 

....