Can i wire DC, PSX, PS2 into one cp?

[Demon-Seed]

HI
I have read how to hack a psx controller. It looks fairly easy. But I do have plans to have more than ps2 in my cab. I want ps2, dc etc..... is there a way to take the psx cord that plugs inot the unit and split it so it will work with other systems or something? how do u guys switch between systems?

also any suggestions on where to buy that box thing that converts console to PC monitor?

thanks
Jim

[SNAAAKE]

Jim,
Your are in similer situation.

Here is the deal,you cant have all system wired up together.It wont work even if you make a switch between all the buttons.using 25 pin printer switch box.

It WORKS but very slow signal.Its like you press down and it takes a while before it registers to the console.Its like if you were playing online(LAG).

JUST SWITCHING GROUND IS TOTAL $hit if you wanna do that way..it dont work..end of story.

Best solution would be to hack psx pad then use converter to use on dreamcast,mame.
go here for converters www.levelsix.com

Get the $12 usb converter from them.That works perfect.

[Demon-Seed]

Hey
Ok I am a little confused.. ok

so i break open a psx controller and wire it to my cp.... (can i do 2 of them).

So I have the PSX end that would normally plug into the PSX console. Now I take it and plug it inot a convertor?? that would then plug into DC? is this correct? I am confused to what USB convertor I need....and how it can be used on different consoles...sorry i am dumb..maybe include link??? to exact product so i can get some idea?

i have a PSX-PC USB convertor here. it is basically USB from PC into a box that plugs in a PSX controller..but I need one to go from the console?? i am confused..any help is much apprecaited.

thx
Jim

[SNAAAKE]

For x-box.
http://levelsix.com/products/xbox/magicbox.shtml

For dreamcast.
http://levelsix.com/products/dreamcast/superconvertor.shtml

Using arcade stick on x-box is very dumb by the way.The system has less then nothing to offer these days.

[SirPoonga]

Snaaaake might have had bad luck.  I've seen someone use a db25 switch to switch between systems.

Anyway, as for you console to pc monitor.
Each system has a (usually provided by a third party) vga box.
Do some research.
Here's a start
http://www.psreporter.com/ps2_vga_adapter.html

[Demon-Seed]

Hi,
Ok now that makes sense thanks guys. So there is no way to have multi consoles? u have to manually unhook? just checking

[SirPoonga]

No, like I siad, I know someone who uses a printer switch box.  A printer switch box allowed many comptuer to hook up to a single printer, you selected which computer to use the printer.  You can use that.  Have your CP hooked into the printer ports, have the switchbox goto each console, then just dial a console.

http://www.computerplug.com/switch_db25Ta.htm

[SNAAAKE]

I TRIED.....

slow signal.it lags but works....

[Demon-Seed]

Ok, the switch thing works or not? snake said its sloww as hell is this true? I may have to just do it manually. Also how do u convert the psx plug into the 25 pin parallel? I am going to first try the DC thing i guess... it looks the easiest.

ANyone else tried anything like this and have links to their sites with how toos and stuff? I would really appreciate that advice.

[Demon-Seed]

Sir, it says that the VGA adapter works with PSX and PS2 but will it work with DC or XBOX??? i need one that will be able to work for all if possible.

thx
Jim

[SNAAAKE]

Okay you get somethin like this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2056722562
Then you get vga box for each system here > > www.levelsix.com

AVOID the printer cable and psx/dreamcast setup.Just hack psx pad then get converter.
 

[Demon-Seed]

Ok one last question about this, more of a clarification thing. In order for me to play multi consoles I need to do:

1. hack a psx controller and wire to my control pannel.
2. run the psx into and adapter that would allow me to go into the console. IE) psx to box that makes it plug into dc.
3. Get a VGA swtich box that would allow multiple video..from different consoles..I have to buy VGA adapter for each console and then plug it into the VGA switch. When i turn the switch it would switch platforms?

is this correct?

BUT....i have 2 concerns still on how...

1. since the psx would plug into a convertor I can only have one controller hooked into a console correct? like i can not have the controller go to PSX, PS2, DC at the same time? if so how please explain if possible.

2. The vga switch box.......u plug in say a DC VGA into it? but the switch box looks like 25pin pc monitor plus and the VGA adapter things for the console dont show the end that plugs into computer? like i do not see how it connects?

thanks\
Jim

[Demon-Seed]

May have answered my one question..this device might be the best thing to use... what do u think? looks like a switch and adapter in onE?? (for video?


http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1383502769

[SNAAAKE]

Heheahhhehe.....very very funny

This box is 200% $hit.
DUDE,
That is composite signal.

Avoid at any cost.The link i gave is perfect for your setup.

The PC  monitor cable goes the the middle connecter of the box and male vga cables from your vga boxes goes to port A,B,C,D.They even give you 4 free cables.I use this setup and dont have any problem ever.

As for psx setup,gotta do manually...its not big deal man.
Only takes like a second to plug and unplug things.

Are things CLEAR enough here?

Luck luck  

[SirPoonga]

You might have to get a VGA adaptor for each system.
There are sites out there that tell you how to make your own vga convertor for each system.

And yes, the switchbox works.  Snake must have had a bad experience.

[SNAAAKE]

And yes, the switchbox works.  Snake must have had a bad experience.

Why dont you try the switch box and figure out yourself..trust me..This thing dont perform well.

SLOW SIGNAL.

[SirPoonga]

And yes, the switchbox works.  Snake must have had a bad experience.

Why dont you try the switch box and figure out yourself..trust me..This thing dont perform well.

SLOW SIGNAL.

did you not understand my first post above???  I have tried it, it works fine.

[SirPoonga]

I have to add.
here's a pic of what is inside a switch box.
http://www.radiosky.com/max187box.html

Note, it is just a big fancy passthrough box, no reason for a slower speed.  The switch knob acts as a multple jumper.  It switches the connections around, other than that it's just wires.

Ad for the vga box.  You have two routes.  Either get a vga box for console, and get a VGA switchbox or get a generic svideo to VGA convertor.  Both options might end up costing the same overall.

[Warborg]

Just a thought...  SNaaaKE, did you use a manual switch or an auto-switch?  I can see these type of problems with an autoswitch, but not on a manual, as SirPoonga is right, it's just a straight passthrough connection when switched over, nothing to "slow up" the signal...

[SNAAAKE]

OKAY ANYONE ACTUALLY TRIED DREAMCAST/PSX SETUP?

NO right?

I did and it works/dont work.

You think it works perfect but it doesn't....just try and dont post again about how great the printer setup way is.

YESSS...it is manual switch box and i tried high quility shielded cable(each 25 pin cable cost me $10 each)

IF IT WAS REALLY WORKIN..then i would have that kind of setup.

WHY am i so  >:(pi$$ed here?Because after all the wiring,the signal was slow.i got so pi$$ed when i tried playing street fighter.ANNOYING as hell...you press jump and you jump after like 5 seconds.

[SirPoonga]

OKAY ANYONE ACTUALLY TRIED DREAMCAST/PSX SETUP?

NO right?

I did and it works/dont work.

You think it works perfect but it doesn't....just try and dont post again about how great the printer setup way is.

YESSS...it is manual switch box and i tried high quility shielded cable(each 25 pin cable cost me $10 each)

IF IT WAS REALLY WORKIN..then i would have that kind of setup.

WHY am i so  >:(pi$$ed here?Because after all the wiring,the signal was slow.i got so pi$$ed when i tried playing street fighter.ANNOYING as hell...you press jump and you jump after like 5 seconds.

Right snaaake, that's YOUR experience.  Just because it sucked for you for some reason doesn't mean it doesn't work.  Maybe there is more to the problem than the switch, like bad soldering or something.  I know it works.  I kow non-arcade projects that use it as a cheap multiple input switch.

Well, it works beatutifully with a psx/snes/genesis/atari setup.  So changing to a dc on one of those doesn't change anything.

End of discussion.

Demon, all I can say, it try it.  what's the worst that can happen.  It won't work, you are out of $10 and you have to think of a different solution.

[SNAAAKE]

Its not the money brother .
You do all the wiring and dont work.
But go ahead and try then post how things went.I will take a pic of the box i got if i see someone posted that it does work 100%.I COULD BE WRONG TOO...i only paid like $10 for the box.AGAIN,it does work but only slow signal.

[Dave_K.]

Demon-seed, I think I gave you this link before, but please look at http://www.arcadecontrols.com/arcade_consoles.shtml

Its a new section going up, and should answer most of your console questions (controllers/video optoins).  I don't have anything specific to "switching" multiple systems in one control unit, but a printer switch box or similar should work.  Not sure why Snaaake never got it to work.  Personally I don't see a problem manually switching controls/consoles around inside a cabinet, its not like it I'm doing it that often.  First get the indiviual pieces working (like hacking a psx pad to your controls, then use with one of the options for converting to pc, dc, gamecube, ...).  Once you get this far and you think you need to make quicker changes then we can revisit the topic.

-Dave

[SirPoonga]

Not sure why Snaaake never got it to work.  Personally I don't see a problem manually switching controls/consoles around inside a cabinet, its not like it I'm doing it that often.  

That's what I am says.  As I said twice (this being the third time, maybe a charm) that I know someone who did it.  It work perfectly.  I think snaaake might have done something to how controllers or something that it is slow.  I'd have to ask, was it slow for ALL controllers on that switch?  If it was just the first one he tried and gave up after that there might have been an issue with just that controller.  In other words maybe it's not the switch that's the problem.

[SNAAAKE]

The controllers seem to work perfect.the psx pad works perfect because thats what i have in the panel right now and the dreamcast works perfect too because i made a small stick out of that interface.I DONT KNOW WhAT THE PROBLEM IS?

Didn't work for me..i got pi$$ed and gave up.I dont have time to figure out why my setup had slowdown.I wish someone else did that and posted the result.

[Demon-Seed]

Ok Final thoughts for now:

I am not home much so I have to do one step at a time.

1. Hack psx controller
2. hook up to convertor for dc...

try it
then move one..ehehe

only questions i have are with the psx can u hack Analog???

thanks

and yea i will/have checked out that link.....thanks

[Demon-Seed]

Last Q..

I checked the console link it has some info on the psx contorller is there any links that have exact solder points an how toos? I have a mint original psx controller at home so i have to get it right the first time..any links? pics? or directions???

thx
JIM

[Dave_K.]

Demon-seed, both your questions are answered in that new console FAQ (did you read it yet)?  Hacking analog (what can and can't be done) is discussed.  My suggestion is to not deal with analog at this point, stick to the psx pads.  Links to pages that hack the original PSX pads are also there (the frankenstick page showed original psx pad being hacked).
Again, please read the page.

-Dave