Should I expand my cabinet to accomadate a 27" TV?

[subzero23]

Assuming I can't find a 25" TV with S-Video in I'm going to get a 27" TV. Now I know that a standard Midway-style (like MK3) cabinet will fit a 27" monitor but what about TV?
Should I expand it width wise by like 2"? How about 2" deeper or is that necessary?

I've heard happs 27" Bezel comes extra large so you can trim it yourself, is this true? how hard is it to trim?

Also a side question, when making my PC for a mame cab should I go with 512MB or is 256MB enough to run most games like Mortal Kombat and marvel vs capcom with fullspeed with sound?

Thanks

[Crazy Cooter]

Measure the TV before building the cab.  That way you know it will fit.
I've never used a Happs' bezel.
256 will run both of those at full speed.  I think I've seen them on 128.

[deoblo85]

I have a 25" tv in mine and it's pretty damn big You might want to check if it will make it in and out the door if you had to i almost had a game stuck in the laundry room

[dreamcastninja]

i have a 2.4 ghz celeron (overkill)
512 mb ddr ram

i've ran everything except the mortalk kombats, nba jam, stuff like that digitized graphics full speed when i had 256 in a 733mhz

so you'll be fine

[dmish82]

25" TV's seem to be out of production for the most part, making them very hard to find. When I was looking for a TV a couple months ago, all I could find were 27" ones, and oddly enough, most of the 27" TV's were smaller in size than the 25" ones AND they were cheaper. Therefore there was no reason for me to get a 25". So as stated before, just measure everything out before you buy. On a side note, when you go looking for TV's, you might want to unplug a few while powered on to see if they automatically power back on when you plug them back in. This will be an option you will probably want to have for the finished cab so that the TV will power on automatically when you turn the cab on. Good luck.

[paigeoliver]

You can always just uncase the sucker, and then it should fit in any big cabinet.

I am about to shoehorn a 27" monitor vertically in a classic 19" cabinet.

[subzero23]

i have a 2.4 ghz celeron (overkill)
512 mb ddr ram

i've ran everything except the mortalk kombats, nba jam, stuff like that digitized graphics full speed when i had 256 in a 733mhz

so you'll be fine

Those are the exact games I'm worried about.... so they don't run on your computer full speed?

[subzero23]

You can always just uncase the sucker, and then it should fit in any big cabinet.

I am about to shoehorn a 27" monitor vertically in a classic 19" cabinet.

Thanks to those who replied
I'm not too concerned about power-on problems, I'm just going to rewire the power/volume/channel buttons to actual pushbuttons underneath near the computer so I can turn the computer/TV on while I'm down there.

Anyway about uncasing the TV, are there any dangers to that? I mean I would take the proper precautions but I mean while it's in there and on should I have anything to worry about? Would I need shielded speakers with it uncased? Any modifications needed to a TV without a case or will it sit on the monitor shelf perfectly?

[paigeoliver]

When uncased you will have to mount the tube on a piece of wood, and the monitor chassis on another piece of wood.

[LordDamo]

One thing paige forgot to mention is discharging the tv. Would be a really good idea to read the follow page

http://www.arcadecontrols.com/arcade_monitors.shtml#discharging

Hope this fixes up and concers you have about opening up your tv. I've done this, its a bit scary the first time, but keep one hand in your pocket and you'll do fine.

ZZzzzzaapp!  

[paigeoliver]

You don't HAVE to discharge unless you are taking the anode cap off.

Also, to make it really idiot proof use a brand new TV and never even plug the sucker in until it is done. It WILL NOT have a charge, still discharge it anyway, but it won't have one.

[subzero23]

Just as I found out that the depth won't be a problem I find out I have to uncase the TV anyway so it'll fit well with a bezel since paige said in another thread that it'll look ugly without being uncased.

So if I uncase it, will it be pretty much like an arcade monitor when mounted on wood? Will it be stable?

[paigeoliver]

It will be stable if you mount it stable.

It will also totally take a standard 27" arcade bezel then too, as long as you buy a tv with a traditional curved tube.

[subzero23]

ya my dad has been like get a flatscreen and I'm just like ugh you have no idea why i'm doing this in the first place

[paigeoliver]

No, noooo flatscreen, you will never find a matching bezel.

The cheapest 27" set in the store should be exactly what you need. It should have a traditional curved tube, and s-video, you don't need anything else.

[subzero23]

yeah i know
my dad just wanted to update to the 2000's I guess and I'm thinking there is no such thing as a 2000's arcade machine....they're all still the traditional ones...

[paigeoliver]

I actually HAVE spied a few flat tube standard res monitors lately. But they are uncommon, and I have only seen the 19" size. The industry might eventually switch to them fully, but that will be fine, because at least then you will be able to find the bezels.

[subzero23]

Lol I'm not the one who wants the flatscreen....way too much $$ anyway.
I donno if the "industry" will switch because it seems like there isn't much of an industry to be had
I saw a Madden 4 player game the other day and that was like the newest traditional arcade game I've seen in like a couple years

[shadowdrak]

Maybe it's just me but I see new arcade machines all the time(Granted they are probably conversions).  I saw tekken 4 and soul caliber 2 they same week they came out and they are always making new versions of dance dance revolution(rolls eyes).  The bowling alley and the mall always seem to have em.  There isn't much to do in the desert where I live, so maybe that's why we still have arcades(at least two places are dedicated video arcades that I know of) in an area about 300 thousand strong.  I am in a backwards hick town in the mojave desert though.

EDIT: doesn't happs sell a flatscreen bezel though?

[kcorcoran]

I'm getting a free 27" tv this week from someone because the sound is no good on it.. they don't want to screw with it so they're giving it to me.. should fit perfect in my DL II cabinet.

can someone point me to threads / info on hooking up the computer to the TV.

you're mentioning s-video.. i'm assuming i need a video card with an s-video tv out?
is there any cable hacks like the VGA to arcade monitor hack i've seen?

any links for research are appreciated.

[GGKoul]

Can someone point me to threads / info on hooking up the computer to the TV.

you're mentioning s-video.. i'm assuming i need a video card with an s-video tv out?
is there any cable hacks like the VGA to arcade monitor hack i've seen?

Easiest way is to get a video card with s/video out and plug that into the s/video input on the TV.

[subzero23]

Maybe it's just me but I see new arcade machines all the time(Granted they are probably conversions).  I saw tekken 4 and soul caliber 2 they same week they came out and they are always making new versions of dance dance revolution(rolls eyes).  The bowling alley and the mall always seem to have em.  There isn't much to do in the desert where I live, so maybe that's why we still have arcades(at least two places are dedicated video arcades that I know of) in an area about 300 thousand strong.  I am in a backwards hick town in the mojave desert though.

EDIT: doesn't happs sell a flatscreen bezel though?

aren't those all "showcase" cabs and DDR that's just something else.... I don't count those lol

ya they have a 27" flatscreen monitor but it's just not traditional