NEED CAB DIMENSIONS

[Flinkly]

 hey everyone,

 i've been searching the internet for months for side dimensions to the simple neo geo mvs cabinet.  specific names are:

MVS-1-25
MVS-2-25
MVS-2-13
MVS-4-25 (ver. 1)

if you could get dimensions for me from your own cab, a friends, or even the one at the local arcade, it would be GREATLY appreciated, and jakobud can even get the info to make a dimensions sheet on his website for it.  thanks for all the help.

[Jakobud]

The MVS-4-25 ver 3 plans I added recently could be modified just slightly in order to get the version 1 plans.  All you have to do is adjust the top of it.

[Flinkly]

ok, i've been looking for 6 months for dimensions of a neo geo mvs cabinet so that i can build one from scratch and create my cab.  i've always loved neo geo games and the look of the cab is what i see when i think of arcade.  so i just really need someone who has dimensions or a cab available near them to measure to get me the side panel dimensions so i can finally start my project.  i'm going to try to post a pic of a side panel and label the dimensions with letters so it's easier to reply to this, but if you have any info at all about neo geo side dimensions please post what you have for me, any help is appreciated.

p.s.  please help, i've already ordered everything i need and i'm just waiting for cab dimensions....

[Bgnome]

ok, i've been looking for 4 months for dimensions of a neo geo mvs cabinet so that i can build one from scratch and create my cab.  i've always loved neo geo games and the look of the cab is what i see when i think of arcade.  so i just really need someone who has dimensions or a cab available near them to measure to get me the side panel dimensions so i can finally start my project.  I don't want to hear about not searching the right sites, because i have searched everywhere.  and i don't want to hear that the dimensions are kinda like another cabs dimensions.  i'm going to try to post a pic of a side panel and label the dimensions with letters so it's easier to reply to this, but if you have any info at all about neo geo side dimensions please post what you have for me, any help is appreciated.

p.s.  please help, i've already ordered everything i need and i'm just waiting for cab dimensions....

i have noticed that you have requested many times.  you even have an old thread on this:
http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=25408;start=msg208973#msg208973

if the mvs-4-25 v3 isnt good enough for you then why dont you say so?

[zaphod]

Your want the measurements to this? http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=8846


Jakobud has them, as well as a bunch of other great plans.  http://www.jakobud.com/cabinetPlans.php


*edit- I see Bgnome responded while I was typing.  Sounds like my answer is not what is being looked for.

[Flinkly]

i would have but by the time i saw jakobuds reply the thread was already on the middle of page 2...and i know this sounds dumb, but no one looks past page one to look at posts.  i am glad jakobud helped, and has a site for cab dimensions, but for as much money as i've spent, i need the true dimensions.  i've searched the internet hundreds of times for it, e-mailed about 20 poeple with auctions with them, and even a guy who posts here and did almost the same thing i want to do, but i've gotten no replies. sorry to be such a stickler about it, but this is the last thing i need.

[zaphod]

i would have but by the time i saw jakobuds reply the thread was already on the middle of page 2...and i know this sounds dumb, but no one looks past page one to look at posts.

A simple reply to the existing thread would have bumped it back to page 1.

[darktemp]

Well this might sound stupid, but for all your hard work have you considered just grabbing a tape measure and going to an arcade?

[SirPeale]

I merged the two topics.  Problem solved.

[Flinkly]

i've been to all the arcade in within an hour of my house, trust me, and i've not found an mvs...which is kinda weird, i know, but there isn't any.  i haven't been to all the bowling alleys or pizza places, but the ones i haven't been to i wouldn't expect to have any and they are a little far to just drive to and find no cabs.  sorry about not knowing how the posting thing works, i'm still kind of a newb in a couple respects.  again, sorry to be snitchy, but in the last 6 months, i have tried everything to get cab dimensions, so this is kinda my last resort is to plead with everyone on byoac main forum to help me out and to (i'm thinking) measure the cab they have, or a friend has, cause one of you guys has got to have a mvs cab.

but again, thanks for all the help you guys have given so far.

[Jakobud]

Dude, why don't you just adjust my MVS dimensions I've got on my site?

[Flinkly]

i would and i could, if it was a ver. 2, but the version three is totally different in dimensions than all the others...they added a bunch of stuff, go ahead and compare it over at hardmvs.com in their photo section.

but when i do get it all worked out and set up in proe, i'll go ahead and send you scans of the dimensions.  oh, and i did just try to adjust yours in proe, and i'm still 2 dimensions short, because they added so much to the marque other than the marque, but i tried...

[Jakobud]

Yeah it is a bit different.  I'm afraid you are just gonna have to go out and find one to measure.

[darktemp]

In fairness I know exactly why he wants the cab he does.  It's one of my favorite designs and I had considered trying to find one as well.  It's hard to believe that the version 3 came after because it is hideous IMO.

v1


v3

[Flinkly]

thanks for the support in my persuit of happiness.  i guess the fact that i'm spending alot to make a cabinet in the first place pushes me to make a nice one the first time.  i'm sure alot of you out there understand, it's just that the model of cab i like isn't incredibly old (aka, cheap to buy) and the boards inside are cartridge based, so they don't become obsolete too quickly either.  

if anyone talks to orntar (posting name) in the forums, see if you can get the dimensions from him, because he made a cab from dimensions off a mvs cab also, and it turned out great, but i haven't gotten an answer back from him yet.  http://neogeo.orntar.net/

just in case, if there is anyone out there that has a mvs cabinet or knows of someone trying to get one off their hands, i might just consider buying one if the price is right and cause i'm getting truly desprate, i'm also willing to pay someone for a trace of the side panel + shipping as long as it's a decent trace.

[Nemo22]

I looked at that site you posted (orntar's), and tried to come up with something based on the fact that his cab was 25.5" across (inner measurement).

See attached picture.  It totals 73.5" tall, I'm not sure if this is too tall, just right/etc.  Base is 24", and the CP sticks out 6.5" maximum.  Each corner is rounded using a 2" disc from what i could tell (didn't add that in).  The hump at the back was added by eyeballing from the MVS-4-25 (V1) cab picture, removing it is what i got from orntar's.

I hope these are accurate enough, or at least a base to start with.  I like the design of this cab as well, hence why i drew these up.

And i hope the attached image isn't too big.

[Flinkly]

hey, thanks for the help...i'm also trying to get a trace from an actual cab from a couple people, but no answers as of yet.  your meausrements seem close, but orntar also changed the dimensions to fit the tv he was sticking inside the cab, as well as other minor adjustments...if you'd also like to have the "actual" dimensions whenever i get them, do you want me to post them for you? (since you said you liked the look of the cab)

strange how the first person whose given me something to go off of is a newbie...i guess everyone else has lost their zeal to help others as much as possible no matter the consequence, but i guess that always happens.

[Nemo22]

Well, from reading his main page, he's using a 27" tv which made the inside dimensions 25.5" as opposed to 24", and he says the profile was taken from a 4 slot cab at a pizza place.  So, the width is just 1.5" more then standard, and the side profile is pretty much identical.

From looking at a picture of an MVS-4-25 v1 cab, there is 1 difference I can see right off the bat (its not critical), otherwise, looks pretty much identical to me

But, ya, if you get the actual dimensions, i'd like them as well, don't think they'll be too far off from this one tho.

Based on this one, already have something worked out with swapable CPs, and debating on an LCD monitor (just for space since a 27" would stick out the back, and easier to rotate too), and this is my 2nd design, just gotta decide which one to go with now!, or come up with a 3rd heh.

[DrewKaree]

strange how the first person whose given me something to go off of is a newbie...i guess everyone else has lost their zeal to help others as much as possible no matter the consequence, but i guess that always happens.

Now I've got to take issue with you, as you seemed to be just impatient, but stating something like that reads to me like you're not impatient, but the "gimme gimme gimme" type of person that no one SHOULD care about if you get what you want, as you don't seem thankful or appreciative of the help offered to you thus far.  I'd define such a person as an ingrate.

Perhaps you can use this to realize that, indeed, you have NOT exactly carved yourself a little spot in anyone's heart to cause them to want to aid you.  Click here for a link that is QUITE contrary to your view, (see Wizard's "lack of zeal " I have found people here (that I would vehemently disagree with personally) to be the most helpful people, and willing to go out of their way to help others.  

It'd also help if you wouldn't be constantly telling us how hard/dumb/expensive/not-your-fault/program-acting-up it is to find your information, yet talk about how WE "lost our zeal to help someone".  Maybe you haven't realized it, but YOU don't have a "zeal" to help YOURSELF!  Read some of your very own words:

I don't want to hear about not searching the right sites, because i have searched everywhere.  and i don't want to hear that the dimensions are kinda like another cabs dimensions.

... by the time i saw jakobuds reply the thread was already on the middle of page 2...and i know this sounds dumb, but no one looks past page one to look at posts

and i'm sure they are not in the manual, i've looked before but adobe seems to be acting up right now or i'd check again.

...but there isn't any. i haven't been to all the bowling alleys or pizza places, but the ones i haven't been to i wouldn't expect to have any or very nice arcade games...plead with everyone on byoac main forum to help me out and to (i'm thinking) measure the cab they have, or a friend has, cause one of you guys has got to have a mvs cab.

Funny how you "know" one of us has to have a cab, and how you think certain places "wouldn't have any or very nice arcade games".  Kreskin, start your own psychic hotline

i guess the fact that i'm spending alot to make a cabinet in the first place pushes me to make a nice one the first time....the model of cab i like isn't incredibly old (aka, cheap to buy)

I guess your "zeal" doesn't extend to buying "the ultimate cabinet"  Funny how you can't seem to find it worthwhile to go all out, but we should, in an effort to help you...and in case we missed it, you continue to beseech us, as was shown here

I have noticed that you have requested many times.  you even have an old thread on this:
http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=25408;start=msg208973#msg208973

if the mvs-4-25 v3 isnt good enough for you then why dont you say so?

With all the help offered to you, with you continuing to act as if certain things are out of the realm of possibility for us to expect of you (like reading all the way to page 2 of a thread YOU should be looking at, or telling us how your Acrobat is acting up, but never telling us if that solved your problem).  You continue, in almost all of your posts to say (and I quote)

thanks for the support in my persuit of happiness.

but again, thanks for all the help you guys have given so far.

any help is appreciated.

you then have the unmitigated gall to say something as rude as "guess you've lost your zeal to help others"?!?!?  

After reading the words you type, the attitude I sense, and the cheap shot at the members here, I now have serious doubts as to just how well you have been looking for the information on your own.  I get the feeling you are hoping someone here does all the hard work for you, but if not, you feel you're "helping the process" by taking jabs at some of the most knowledgeable people on a VARIETY of subjects in some twisted effort to "motivate" us.

You may view this as an attack on you from someone who hasn't offered any help to you, but I can't sit here and watch you bash a group that has shown integrity time and again in helping others without standing up for them.  It would be giving you the impression that you can do it again and continue to get away with it.  

Quite frankly, I'd sooner help MrC with his real-world endeavors right now than to assist someone who shows so little regard for the very people he is asking help from.  

The only "zeal we've lost" is in helping someone intent on speaking from one side of his mouth to tell us our help offered isn't useful at all, while out of the other side of his mouth is telling us how much he appreciates "any help you can give".

[Flinkly]

i wasn't trying to make a jab at anyone, so i'm sorry that you took it so offensively.  being a newbie, i don't quite consider myself part of the group yet, or i would refer to the byoac as "we", but i think this community is great for preservationists, mamers, and all sorts of people who find themselves here looking for pertinent answers.

just recently there was a thread where, if i was reading it right, a paralyzed person who had enjoyed playing video games prior to their accident was asking about controlers that would be useful to her since they have lost most control of their hands.  because of the communities helpfullness and spirit, several people came foreward to offer useful input and some are even offering to make controllers for the person for free.

on the other hand, there are people, like everywhere in the world, who sometimes help others when the question is good enough to answer, and if they believe the question is stupid enough, they reply with degrading remarks.  i just thought it was funny that the person who came up with dimensions for a mvs cabinet was a fellow newbie.  and then i commented that possibly this was because we are on the same level, the same zealous persuit of arcade happiness, where everyone in this forum starts so they can build their dream, and then when their finished, they do lay back and take a less zealous approach to the forum...it's life, i'm not trying to call you all jerks, and i'm sorry it came accross that way.

and as for my impatience, i am impatient at this point in my project.  over the last 6 months i have aquired all my parts (over 1000 dollars), and designed somewhat of a cp, but since in that time through my persuit everywhere, i haven't found one person that could possibly help me on the internet or in person, most people never even replied to my e-mails or posts, so i'm sorry for taking that out on the community here at the byoac, i sincerely apologize.  and yes, at the end of every post i thank the people who give me input and directions to head in because i know that they don't have to help me, and they are because they want to, and i appreciate that.  and i'm sorry for shooting peoples ideas down, but over six months of research on the web, i've taken most roads that can be traveled, and found nothing usefull to what i'm looking for.  so everyone please except my apology, if you haven't stopped reading already, because i mean it...and thanks again for everyone whos looked over this post and tried to help, wether you've posted or not.

[Vicious]

Don't take the newbie thing literally.  I registered a new user name recently but my old one (Wizard of DelRay) was almost a year old.  I've made a fair share of what I like to think are helpful and/or informative posts.  It's now deleted so I'm starting fresh again, but I hardly consider myself a noob.

Don't be surprised when someone who may not have a high post count can be helpful.

[zaphod]

Let me get this straight, you need the measurements for a cabinet you already own?!?!?  http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103527&highlight=mvs-1-25

Why could you not measure the side panel of your cabinet yourself or am I missing something here?

[Flinkly]

in a search for dimensions, i called a couple arcade...parts/fixers/whatever you want to call them...and one had a really bad neo geo cab that they had dumped.  i thought that there would be enough left that i could salvage at least dimensions, along with cabinet construction off of it, but the sides were toast.  i can tell how wide it was, since the inside panels were still the correct width in some places, but the side panels were water damaged, broken, dinged...it was a cabinet that would make you cry, no matter what it used to be.  i guess it had gotten bad water damage, and from there, no one was worried about what happened to it, so it got thrown around a bit.  so, i picked it up and took the dimensions i could, and scrapped it, because there wasn't anything to save.  i did get a couple random dimensions off the sides, but if someone can get me dimensions from a real cab, i might as well check the ones i already have against them.  i could have saved a couple of the higher panels, like the top, and a couple around the cp, but i figured that i might as well start from scratch, instead of incorporating old with new.

i told you i've tried almost everything...even using a dumped cab.

so at the neo geo post, i figured they wouldn't like a mamer so i gave them my experience with a neo cab i bought...all i do need is the side dimensions though.  sorry for stretching the truth a bit...now i'm starting to think of making a new name...

[zaphod]

...now i'm starting to think of making a new name...called a jerk yesterday, and a liar today.

I do not believe anyone called you a liar today.  

You just may want to tone your posts down a notch.  Thank everyone for their help and accept the fact you may have to solve this issue yourself.  This group is fantastic but there are times where they don't have the exact answer you are looking for.  You may have to just use the measurements you already have, look at some pics online and make your best guess as to the missing dimensions.  Noone will know if you are off an inch or two from the original cabinet.  

[Flinkly]

i know, i'm beginning to come to the conclusion that no one can help me with the specifics i'm after.  i'm just trying to make the best cab the first time...gaming perfection to me.  i am thankful for all the help that everyone has given me with this, truly, but like they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and if i know the cab isn't right...it'll always nab at me.  i guess i just figured that someone on this or the neo geo board would be able to help me, since there are so many people out there.  and i know you didn't call me a liar...but i'm just already having a bad day, even though it's only 9am over here...i actually edited it before you posted your reply.  anyways, no need to post anything on this topic anymore unless you can (and will) get exact measurements either by trace or by tape.  also, if i find one somewhere else, i'll post them here and then send them over to jakobud for free display on the web.

thanks again everyone.

[DrewKaree]

i wasn't trying to make a jab at anyone, so i'm sorry that you took it so offensively.  being a newbie, i don't quite consider myself part of the group yet, or i would refer to the byoac as "we", but i think this community is great for preservationists, mamers, and all sorts of people who find themselves here looking for pertinent answers.

just recently there was a thread where, if i was reading it right, a paralyzed person who had enjoyed playing video games prior to their accident was asking about controlers that would be useful to her since they have lost most control of their hands.  because of the communities helpfullness and spirit, several people came foreward to offer useful input and some are even offering to make controllers for the person for free....i'm not trying to call you all jerks, and i'm sorry it came accross that way.

so i'm sorry for taking that out on the community here at the byoac, i sincerely apologize.  and yes, at the end of every post i thank the people who give me input and directions to head in because i know that they don't have to help me, and they are because they want to, and i appreciate that.  and i'm sorry for shooting peoples ideas down, but over six months of research on the web, i've taken most roads that can be traveled, and found nothing usefull to what i'm looking for.  so everyone please except my apology, if you haven't stopped reading already, because i mean it...and thanks again for everyone whos looked over this post and tried to help, wether you've posted or not.

I know what it's like to post something that seemed fine at the time, but after someone took the time to lay into me and explain why I was an ass and I looked back, realized I WAS an ass....I suspect you have the same feeling I did.

I believe you are truly contrite.  Taking the time to reply and to offer apologies to any you may have offended shows something about you.  I think your apology is acceptable to all, and goes a long way towards building a rep.  

now i'm starting to think of making a new name...

I'll give you another tip.  Before you submit your post, hit the preview button.  Try to read two or three times to see if you can see the potential to offend before posting.  Making a new name just because you got off on the wrong foot not only isn't necessary, but would take away a chance for us to show YOU that we can indeed forgive and forget.  

A little lapse in judgement is forgivable.  Not allowing someone to get past it and learn of your character makes them forever think they were right about you.

Buck up little camper.  You'll prolly end up realizing you ARE one of the "we" here.