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Defender refurb.
« on: September 29, 2004, 08:25:49 pm »
Originally I wasn't planning on even starting this project for a while but I couldn't help myself.

The cab was free, I got it from a GearHead on Tuesday September 28th 2004.  Yes that was yesterday, but who knows people may be looking back on this project months from now.

The cab started off as a Defender cab, was converted to Rough Ranger and now I'm restoring it to it's rightful identity.

I didn't take any pictures of it before I took the RR stickers off and and stripped the first coat of paint off but I'm hoping I can get the ones GearHead took of it and put those here.

As of right now the plan is to get it back to looking good and going from there.  It will with 99% certainty end up being fitted with a computer emulating Defender and a 21" KDS vga monitor.
If there's bees in the trap I'm catching em
By the thorax and abdomen
And sanding the stingers down to a rough quill
Then I dip em in ink, and I scribble a bit
But if it they wriggle then I tickle em until they hold still
Lemme say it again
In my land of pretend
I use bees as a mf'n pen

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2004, 08:34:52 pm »
Here's what it looked like after the first stripping with the chemical stuff.
If there's bees in the trap I'm catching em
By the thorax and abdomen
And sanding the stingers down to a rough quill
Then I dip em in ink, and I scribble a bit
But if it they wriggle then I tickle em until they hold still
Lemme say it again
In my land of pretend
I use bees as a mf'n pen

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2004, 08:35:39 pm »
And after the second go at it.
If there's bees in the trap I'm catching em
By the thorax and abdomen
And sanding the stingers down to a rough quill
Then I dip em in ink, and I scribble a bit
But if it they wriggle then I tickle em until they hold still
Lemme say it again
In my land of pretend
I use bees as a mf'n pen

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2004, 08:36:53 pm »
And after sanding.  I went through two belts on my belt sander to get here.  $7.50 out the window!

Oh and check out the lack of paint on my screen door...  My bad.  :P
« Last Edit: September 29, 2004, 08:38:46 pm by crashwg »
If there's bees in the trap I'm catching em
By the thorax and abdomen
And sanding the stingers down to a rough quill
Then I dip em in ink, and I scribble a bit
But if it they wriggle then I tickle em until they hold still
Lemme say it again
In my land of pretend
I use bees as a mf'n pen

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2004, 12:30:40 am »
If only the people who converted cabinets back then knew what we now know, they could have kept the cab in mint condition and made a FORTUNE.  Oh well then...

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2004, 09:17:49 am »
If only the people who converted cabinets back then knew what we now know, they could have kept the cab in mint condition and made a FORTUNE.  Oh well then...

Well...no.  Fact is, after a while the games became boring to play to people back then.  So in order to maximize their investment in their purchase, they'd convert them to play other games.

It would have been nice for *us* if they had done easily reversible things to the cabinets, but to an op it was just a way to suck quarters out of the kiddies.

Getting $1,000 for a cabinet after sitting on it for twenty years would actually be a huge loss in money.

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2004, 09:21:47 am »
I'm ecstatic to see this went to a solid home.  He's doing what I would have done had I driven there before he did.  Good show.

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2004, 09:28:23 am »
I will be watching this thread intently.  I hope this thing comes back to life.  By the way, what stripper did you use?

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2004, 03:13:21 pm »
I will be watching this thread intently.

Have you seen my other project, Mini-Galaga, it's been in the works for a good half a year.  I wouldn't watch this thread too intently as it will be worse that watching paint dry.

By the way, what stripper did you use?

I already threw away the can but it was Ace Hardware's brand, it came with a spray bottle and was $6.50.  I was kinda dissapointed with the results to tell you the truth although I'm not sure a different brand would have worked better...  Only reason I used it was so I didn't go through like 10 belts on my belt sander because paint is not too nice to sandpaper.
If there's bees in the trap I'm catching em
By the thorax and abdomen
And sanding the stingers down to a rough quill
Then I dip em in ink, and I scribble a bit
But if it they wriggle then I tickle em until they hold still
Lemme say it again
In my land of pretend
I use bees as a mf'n pen

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2004, 03:27:30 pm »
I will be watching this thread intently.

Have you seen my other project, Mini-Galaga, it's been in the works for a good half a year.  I wouldn't watch this thread too intently as it will be worse that watching paint dry.

By the way, what stripper did you use?

I already threw away the can but it was Ace Hardware's brand, it came with a spray bottle and was $6.50.  I was kinda dissapointed with the results to tell you the truth although I'm not sure a different brand would have worked better...  Only reason I used it was so I didn't go through like 10 belts on my belt sander because paint is not too nice to sandpaper.


On the stripper, I used Goof Off 2 (water based version, less stinky and toxic) on the Moon Patrol to get the conversion latex spray paint off.  It worked like a charm.  So you were trying to remove all paint, not just the conversion crap, correct?

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2004, 04:55:50 pm »
I used Goof Off, but if you leave it on the exposed wood too long where original artwork had been exposed it causes water damage. Tonight I'm going to try and get the rest of the top paint off, but not get any on the sideart. It's going to be tricky.

BTW I'm doing a Defender restore too.

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2004, 08:59:50 pm »
I didn't take any pictures of it before I took the RR stickers off and and stripped the first coat of paint off but I'm hoping I can get the ones GearHead took of it and put those here.

I'm glad this cab went to a good home.  The original pics are still up at http://www.gearheadlabs.com/defender/defender.htm  I still have the high res versions on my computer if you want them.  

Good luck with the restoration.  If I run across any other machines I'll let you guys know.  

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2004, 09:33:59 pm »
Apparently this cab is Defender #479801

See attached pics...

I'll be sure to include that on it's headstone after I burn and bury it.

Yes, I'm affraid this one's more effort than it's worth.  :(
If there's bees in the trap I'm catching em
By the thorax and abdomen
And sanding the stingers down to a rough quill
Then I dip em in ink, and I scribble a bit
But if it they wriggle then I tickle em until they hold still
Lemme say it again
In my land of pretend
I use bees as a mf'n pen

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2004, 09:35:25 pm »
Last one was on the front, diagonally down and to the right of the coin door.

This one was on the back, above the door and to the far left.
If there's bees in the trap I'm catching em
By the thorax and abdomen
And sanding the stingers down to a rough quill
Then I dip em in ink, and I scribble a bit
But if it they wriggle then I tickle em until they hold still
Lemme say it again
In my land of pretend
I use bees as a mf'n pen

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2004, 08:43:39 am »
Dude!  What are you talking about?  Is it worse than originally pictured?  I'd still want to give a crack at it unless there's something you've discovered that I don't know.

EDIT:  just saw your other post.  With that info, you're probably right... use it as a template for a scratch cab.
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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2004, 09:22:51 am »
*sniffle*

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2004, 02:15:01 pm »
Dude!  What are you talking about?  Is it worse than originally pictured?  I'd still want to give a crack at it unless there's something you've discovered that I don't know.

EDIT:  just saw your other post.  With that info, you're probably right... use it as a template for a scratch cab.

Probably should have put a link to that page huh?  

Yea, I'll most likely be looking into fire permits and if my step-father-in-law-to-be would be willing to pick up the cab and bring it to either his place or the site we are both doing some construction on.

If burning it is an option I'll be sure to take some pics for you all.  Maybe even some video, albeit with my digital still cam and therefore not so good quality.
If there's bees in the trap I'm catching em
By the thorax and abdomen
And sanding the stingers down to a rough quill
Then I dip em in ink, and I scribble a bit
But if it they wriggle then I tickle em until they hold still
Lemme say it again
In my land of pretend
I use bees as a mf'n pen

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2004, 02:35:33 pm »
Give that cab a Viking Funeral, man.

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2004, 05:59:44 pm »
I dont get it? ???
Whats wrong with the cab!?!?!?!?!?!??!
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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2004, 06:37:02 pm »
Apparently it's badly warped. Man I was really hoping to watch this so I knew what to do on my Defender refurb project. I guess I'm just really want to see how the side arts is done whether it's stencil or pre-printed vinyl.


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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2004, 09:22:34 pm »
What I most likely would have done for the sideart is taken the Illustrator artwork and seperate the colors into to different files.  From there I'd print it out on probably 30 pages or so, tape it all together and either use that for the stencil or transfer it to a thicker material and use that for a stencil.

ChadTower, what exactly is a "viking funeral"
If there's bees in the trap I'm catching em
By the thorax and abdomen
And sanding the stingers down to a rough quill
Then I dip em in ink, and I scribble a bit
But if it they wriggle then I tickle em until they hold still
Lemme say it again
In my land of pretend
I use bees as a mf'n pen

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2004, 09:48:51 pm »
What I most likely would have done for the sideart is taken the Illustrator artwork and seperate the colors into to different files.  From there I'd print it out on probably 30 pages or so, tape it all together and either use that for the stencil or transfer it to a thicker material and use that for a stencil.

ChadTower, what exactly is a "viking funeral"

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2004, 02:51:14 am »
What I most likely would have done for the sideart is taken the Illustrator artwork and seperate the colors into to different files.  From there I'd print it out on probably 30 pages or so, tape it all together and either use that for the stencil or transfer it to a thicker material and use that for a stencil.

maybee maybee it's aailable somewhere....
check defender_stencils.ai

enjoy
I'm on the planning stage

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2004, 11:38:04 am »
I have the defender ai. stencil files with the colors seperated already. I just wanted to see how someone else had repainted thair sideart.



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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2004, 06:26:41 pm »
I have the defender ai. stencil files with the colors seperated already. I just wanted to see how someone else had repainted thair sideart.





http://www.mameworld.net/massive/Cabinet/Defender/defender.htm   8)
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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2004, 09:15:06 pm »
I have the defender ai. stencil files with the colors seperated already. I just wanted to see how someone else had repainted thair sideart.





http://www.mameworld.net/massive/Cabinet/Defender/defender.htm   8)


I came across that site a while ago, but I am going to spray paint the sideart on like it was done originally.

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Re:Defender refurb.
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2004, 02:29:11 am »
Okay, well, nevermind then, best of luck to you.
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