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Special secret games... Opinions?
« on: September 08, 2002, 01:50:54 am »
This is a little bit off-topic, but you guys probably know better than anybody.

I'm always seeking really incredible games within Mame that I wouldn't have otherwise known about.  What I like most about Mame is discovering a game that could have passed me by otherwise.  The best example I can think of is Renegade.  It's incredibly difficult, but not so tough that you would necessarily give up on it.  It's like Double Dragon mixed with the old-school thrill of end bosses that you really have to think about and experiment before you can beat them.  Double Dragon without continues.  Rad.

Here's my list of really special games that I think deserve to have everybody give them a try, some of which could be easily overlooked.

karate champ (vs. mode - if you have 4 joysticks)
robotron
renegade
munchmobile/joyful road (dual joystick-totally sweet)
rastan (really difficult)
ghouls n ghosts (really difficult)
ninja baseball batman (a pretty good tmnt rip-off)
tapper

In other words, these are the games that I play all the time against my own personal expectation.

What games are you proud to have discovered?  I want to give them a second chance!  Thanks.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2002, 01:58:06 am »
btw, I consider almost all those true classics

renegade is great!  I loved that game in the arcade

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2002, 02:10:25 am »
did you try cadillacs and dinosaurs by capcom..

ONE GREAT GAME PEOPLE  :o

has serious game play and music.overall..best game ever...

make sure you give it couple of minutes and you will love the game  :)

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2002, 05:41:39 am »
I definitely agree with Ghouls & Ghosts, and Rastan (really cool music!).

You might also try Ghosts & Goblins (the forerunner to Ghouls & Ghosts) and Trojan (another good late eighties platformer).

Defender is another great game (possibly the best ever), but then most people already know that....

Incidentally I used to play a clone of Rastan that used a darker non-standard palette. Has anyone else ever come across it? It doesn't appear to be supported by mame.
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2002, 09:08:35 am »
I just discovered Pepper II a couple days ago and I am completely addicted, It's Kinda like a Pacman meets Qix game.

Most of the older byoac'ers know about these next three
but some of the younger members may not have played them.

Star castle : A nice vector game definetly worth a shot.

Wizard of War : Great game and even better with 2 players

Scramble  : An old  side scroller that is very tough to beat
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2002, 11:56:32 am »
I've been playing a little Nibbler, Zoo Keeper and Mappy.  

Nibbler is best played with a 4way, but currently I only have an 8way.  The game is fast and furious.  Its not something that lasts long, but you can really get movin.

Oh yeah.  Two player RipOff.

I've also been playing alot of PayperBoy and Star Wars games.  If you're good with your hands, build yourself a TwistyGrip yoke and play these games again.

I built myself a Push and Pull spinner, but put it in storage while the basement is getting finished.  I'll get that baby out and play some Disc's of Tron when its done.

If I think of anymore I'll let you know.  I like these kinda questions, give me the chance to play some games I've never even thought of playing.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2002, 12:59:07 pm »
Ooooh!  I was afraid to mention Discs of Tron because I don't know how many people have the push and pull spinner/dotron setup...  Since it has been mentioned, then Zwackery must be added to my list (but I think you gotta have the push/pull spinner).  I think that only a handful were ever put into production probably because people didn't want to deal with the crazy controls, so it's GREAT that Mame emulates it.

Quote from klov:
"The game was quite a flop due to its quirky controls, which are identical to Discs Of Tron. Do not be surprised if it takes some time to learn how to operate this platform game using these controls. "

Quote from the high score holder at http://marp.retrogames.com:
"Geez, could the controls be any MORE difficult in this game?"

Quote from http://www.zwackery.net:
"The game uses controls identical to Discs of Tron, which makes it difficult to get the hang of right away, but once you become accustomed to the controls, you'll have a blast."

Ha ha ha.  Could it get any sweeter?

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2002, 05:39:37 pm »
It's probably not terribly secret but one game that I've just discovered is 'Toobin! With a release of 1988 that was juuuust past when I was visiting arcades so I had never seen it before.

I'm so glad I have the SF2 button setup. Toobin was a breeze to configure and a blast to play! Two player head to head is great fun!

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2002, 07:10:32 pm »
Try some of the lesser known capcom platformers like Kinghts of the Round, Captain Commando and Warriors of fate.  Also some of the lesser known konmai beat em ups like cowboys of moo mesa and bucky o'hare  And don't forget the data east classic baddudes.  

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2002, 07:15:37 pm »
Well there's quite a few shooters out there, like Guwange I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend for any hardcore shooter fans out there, best played on RAINE btw.  But the one that runs in Mame that a lot of people haven't ever even heard of would be Cybattler, which you can read a review at http://www.classicgaming.com/rotw/cybattler/  (notice who wrote it, plus took the screenshots ^_^, and yes, that is my last name)  Great fookin game, awesome style of weapons and what not, definitely worth playing.
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2002, 08:27:14 pm »
A couple of my favorites are:

Elevator Action
Yie Ar Kung-Fu

A few I just found:

Viewpoint
Block Block
Elevator Action II

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2002, 08:32:08 pm »
I've recently discovered Do Don Pachi.  Love it!!
I also found a game that I remember playing as a kid that is addicticting.  Blood Bros.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2002, 09:15:23 pm »
When I take a break from my fav's: Defender, Tempest, Galaxian, Galaga, & Time Pilot, I'll normally fire up one of these:

Ninja Spirit
Yie Ar Kung-Fu
Silkworm
Metal Black
Baseball Stars 2

Occasionally, I'll play Snacks'nJaxson, but I can only take a few rounds of that one because it kinda freaks me out.   :)
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2002, 11:12:15 pm »
Bonze Adventure is great and if you like puzzle type games then you simply MUST try Solomon's Key.
Also one must not forget Kid Niki Radical Ninja (with its sickly sweet music).   ;D
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2002, 12:52:20 am »
Just tried Flicky!!   I love it!  
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2002, 01:01:17 am »
thunder dragon 2. ;)

great shooter in case no one noticed yet.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2002, 02:36:59 am »

Along with some of the greats that everyone has already listed... here are some lesser known but cool games:

rally bike
ninja princess
rescue
cachat
cleopatras fortune
cosmic chasm
jumping jack
loco motion
glob
tac scan
teddyboy blues
brute force
city bomber

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2002, 11:53:45 am »
HAHAHAHA

I love that everyone is mentioning all the games that I played in the arcade!

What I started to discover is all the NEW games that I've never seen!

I do a "dir roms\<letter>* /os"  to find the biggests games for each letter... then try them since most of them I've never seen or heard of.

There are a lot of good games out there!

I played on a few nights ago that was like a cross between colors and don par<whatever... the neogeo puzzlebobble one>.  But you shoot the bubble over by pulling down on a spring.  Fun game!  

Some of the new shooters are AMAZING also.  Great graphics!  great action.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2002, 12:44:11 pm »
Damn, someone already mentioned Cadillacs & Dinosaurs.

Here's a couple

Caveman Ninja [cninja]
Battle Garegga [battleg]
Captain Tomaday [ctomaday]
Musashi Ganryuuki [ganryu]
Spin Master [spinmast]

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2002, 01:10:52 pm »
I recently found these treats, and find myself playing them often:

Haunted Castle: Like Castlevania, but with better graphics and infinitely more difficult.

3 Wonders: 3 games in 1, but the best 2 are the games featuring Capcom's character "Lou."

Ajax: Helicopter/Jet game by Konami. You gotta love the part when you divebomb the enemy's battleship.

Killer Instinct: This one is relatively new, but it's my all-time favorite fighting game. This was a Class A find for me.

Stocker: Drive your red sports car like a maniac and avoid the cops.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2002, 02:10:51 pm »

Damn, someone already mentioned Cadillacs & Dinosaurs.



hahhahaha....that would be me...love the game man...

here is another.    the punisher (CPS1)

and some good shooter

sen jin
Sengoku Ace
Shadow Force
Shippu Mahou Daisakusen
Stagger I
Storm Blade
Strike Gunner S.T.G
Sand Scorpion
Ryu Jin

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2002, 02:46:29 pm »
LADYBUG.  Quite addictive.
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2002, 04:47:46 pm »

When I take a break from my fav's: Defender, Tempest, Galaxian, Galaga, & Time Pilot, I'll normally fire up one of these:

Ninja Spirit
Yie Ar Kung-Fu
Silkworm
Metal Black
Baseball Stars 2

Occasionally, I'll play Snacks'nJaxson, but I can only take a few rounds of that one because it kinda freaks me out.   :)


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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2002, 09:32:02 pm »
Ah, yes, those will definitely be on my list when my new cab is done and the yoke is installed.  It's kinda awkward to play with it clamped to the desk, but that didn't keep me from getting a few games in!   ;D

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2002, 09:36:36 am »
Warrior - In 1979-80, my friends and I played this game (and Tail Gunner) at the arcade almost exclusively for three months until it was taken away.  Unfortunately, the MAME Cinematronics engine is very inefficient, and does not run well on my old PC, so I usually play the Retrocade version that does not have sound.

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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2002, 01:51:08 pm »
Can't believe I consider myself a shooter fan and I missed Do Don Pachi.  Shame on me--it's great!

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2002, 02:22:08 pm »
DUUUDE...

shooter fan...did you try mars matrix and zero gunner 2 on dreamcast...

go get a dreamcast right now in case you dont have one..

man...mars martix is awsome ! ! !

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2002, 02:25:40 pm »
most of you might already know....

there's a Don Pachi.... seems like another part for
Do Don Pachi....

also... thx for all these "preferred games" lists.....
Dammm.... I'm too busy trying them out with my joystick....

but need to spend time on building my cab !!!!.....  >:(   :-\
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2002, 03:42:47 pm »
This discusion is great.

All these great shooters will keep me happy until 0.62. Which will be shooter heaven.

Cyvern, Giga Wing, Sengoku Blade and Strikers 1945!!!

I hope Sengeki Striker will work soon too (fingers crossed).
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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2002, 05:12:20 pm »
I am currently addicted to Marble Madness for some strange reason. I just can't stop playing it.

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« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2002, 11:52:56 am »
OK... some classics that everyone needs to play:  Most are obvious

robotron... but you have to get into the grove beyond 10th level.  There is a REAL ZEN you can get into!

timepilots... I still play this once a week.  BTW, I need to buy a happs super... I hear it's better for timepilots.

10 yard fight.... Best football game!  I can make it to the pro's now...

Mat Mania... Best wrestling game!



burger time... Never really played it in the arcade... but when I found that if a monster is on the bun when you finish it... it goes down 4 levels... now I die often to get that to happen :)

chiller!  This game was like a dream for me.  I always thought that I dreamed it because who in their right mind would bring that game out!  Its great!  (also get to see some low pixel nipples :)

DigDug... Always a classic...

Elevator Action... Again, a classic...  And still fun as hell

Gyruss.. Classis section here

Excite Bike... if you move left and right in a jump, it goes farther... it really does.  

Moon Patrol... classic

karate champ... great 2 players... but I killed my 4player cp so I
can't play it anymore.   Great when you have people over who are good at SF games.


man the list goes on





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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2002, 05:23:45 pm »
found 2 more..

super pool.

BACK STREET SOCCER.

man this socccer game ! ! ! phew...

me and my brother played for like straight 5 hours yesterday...

give it a try..amezing..very fun... :)

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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2002, 05:32:35 pm »
I'm not sure how popular it was but I love Sky Kid. Cartoony graphics, cute music.... It's alot of fun to play
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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2002, 10:30:22 am »
Give 'Butasan' a try!  Great fun & good in 2 player.  I remember this game on the Amstrad CPC but called 'Psycho Pigs UXB'.  Not sure if there was a european / usa arcade release.

I, like Howard, also love Knights of the Round.  ALL of the Capcom scrolling fighters are great.

Great 1000 Mile Rally (Evolution Model) is great.  And play 'I'm Sorry' just because it's quite bizarre.

Oh, and 'Penguin Kun Wars' too.

And anything that uses a spinner :)

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« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2002, 10:57:33 am »
Major Havoc

The mini breakout on the spaceship dashboard is a super cool touch.

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« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2002, 01:27:21 pm »
 :D :D :D :D !TRON! :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2002, 07:50:10 pm »
What! No mention of Bombjack yet?  One of the best in my opinion.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2002, 10:36:19 pm »
I almost forgot... 3 count bout for the neogeo........   It was realeased around the time of the dawn of  "wwf attitude" and although it's only 2d and doesn't have any named wrestlers (at least none that are legally endorsed ;) ) it really gets the whole sports entertainment thing... with parking lot matches and all.  

:)

And although everyone already knows.... don't forget robocop.  

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2002, 01:21:25 am »
After typing up my list and eliminating the ones other peole said (like DoDonPachi):

WWF WrestleFest
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
WindJammers (IS AWESOME!)
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2002, 01:45:34 am »
OK, I am probably showing my age here and this game is probably no secret to the younger crowd but I just played the Metal Slug games and turned on some of my friends (also my age). We are all freaking out at how cool those games are. I played metal slug 2 to the end my first time (with the help of 56 credits)

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2002, 01:52:34 am »
hehe, and I'm showing my age when I say "Why so hopped up over Metal Slug?"  There were many great 80s arcade games just like it.  I'm not saying it's bad, but it's nothing special or unique.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2002, 11:01:18 am »
Which ones?  The Metal Slugs have a unique artistic quality, great music and so much going on. I can't think of any 80's games that are "just like it". By the way, I graduated in 84 and did not hang out in the arcades much after that, so when I say 80's, I mean early to mid 80's.

Name some more slug like games so I can play them too.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2002, 11:59:21 am »
It's just a platform shooter.  The concept is old.  Yeah, it has good graphics for it's time and such, but as time progressess technology gets better.

Like I said, I like metal slug, it;s fun.  But I don;t see why some people have a "religious" experience over it.  It seems where ever I go, any forum I visit, tons of metal slugs posts.

metal slug reminds me of a cross between contra and caveman ninja and narc.  narc being my altime favorite platform shooter.

Get zinc, play striker2, awesome plateform game.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2002, 02:40:10 pm »

By the way, I graduated in 84


what a coincidence :)

i was  born in 1984 and you already graduate  ;D

anyhoos,you like metal slug then play these 2 games.

cadillacs and dinosaurs(rom name dino)

the punisher

you must give cadillacs a try then you will love the game.i cant stop playing it for some reason.

it never came to america.its was only for countries outside us.they had games in my country too ya know.

also try

sunset riders
warrior of fate
hook(this game is weird)



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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2002, 02:48:40 pm »
Snaaake, we get it, I heard on this board many times you like you like caddilacs and dinosaurs:)

Actaully, the games you posted are platform fighters, not platform shooters.  Not quite like metal slug.
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2002, 02:52:48 pm »
it has lot of gunning though...

hand gun,shot gun,m16,rifle,knife,club and such.

however,sunset riders is very cool..better then metal slug. :)

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2002, 01:32:36 am »
For the record......
:)

C&D is NOT at all like metal slug and any other platform shooters... First off it's not even a platform game it's a  2 1/2D side scroller.  Secondly the weapons in it are bonus weapon items which have been around since the double dragon games.  If you don't have at least one gun around all the time then technically it's nto a shooter.  As for it being better than metal slug, it's certainly too different a style of game to make that comparison.  It's like saying robocop is better than pacman...... it's merely personal opinon since you can't compare those games.  


Also for the record... (here I go again)

The metal slug series is NOT like any other platform shooter.  First off this was the first game of it's type to impliment moving bosses at the end.  It may not seem like a lot, but for it's time it was a huge breakthrough.  The only game prior to it that even compared in terms of gameplay was contra.  It surpasses contra in the following ways:  (All other platforms prior to metal slug behaved like contra btw.)

#1 Gradiated backgrounds.  In metal slug you can actually climb over the sand bags instead of jumping over them like an idiot... making yourself more open for bullet-fire.

#2 The bullets actually move at a more realistic speed.  Prior to this all platformers had really slow moving bullets so you could get out of the way after it's been shot.  With the exception of speciality weapons and bosses, this is not the case of metal slug, making it a much faster game.  

#3  A true secondary weapon.  Now I know what your thinking, "that's nothing new." But in this case it actually is.  Prior to metal slug  all secondary weapons were another gun... which might have a different firing pattern, but it was still a gun.  With the addition of grenades that actually arch, it added a new gameplay dynamic in that you could arch a grenade over a bunker and shoot at a guy on a tower while you jump to throw it.

#4 The great ai.  Now I know the mslug thugs aren't increadibly smartbut think about it.  If you jump over a bunker they will eventually follow.  You jump down, they jump down.  You climb up so do they.  before mslug all generic charcters simply ran back and forth on thier own little platform and that was pretty much it.  

#5 The great timing.  Experts say that the reason mario became so popular is the great pacing in his games.  The same is true for metal slug.  The pace of everything is perfect.  It's just enough to still seem exciting and yet slow enough to where you do get frustrated.  

Metal slug is the last of the platfrom side scrolling shooters and for good reason.  It is simply the best out there.  It's the ultimate evolution in the genre, it can't be taken any further.  That's why all side-scroller fans agree that it's the best.  Yeah there are some similarities, but to compare it to a normal side scroller is like comparing quake to wolfenstein.... it's evolved way beyond what the older ones were.      

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2002, 02:08:04 am »
hahhaha...

i cant belive you wrote all that. :-*

too funny... :D

i never said metal slug and C and D was same type of game.
all i said was that i happend to like C and D much more the metal slug.metal slug is okay but kinda too boring at times.

every stage seems same and music is annoying too. :P

thats just my opinion.
however,sunset riders is like metal slug but only better.great music,lots of gun and a classic of course.




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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2002, 02:19:46 am »

i never said metal slug and C and D was same type of game.
all i said was that i happend to like C and D much more the metal slug.metal slug is okay but kinda too boring at times.


maybe not directly, but you implied it.

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anyhoos,you like metal slug then play these 2 games.

cadillacs and dinosaurs(rom name dino)


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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2002, 02:21:44 am »
sure...

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2002, 02:33:04 am »

sure...


Fast response.  Dude, I've pointed this out to you before.  you contradict yourself many times.  It makes you seem more unreliable.  I don't want this post to turn into an ugly post.  It's a good thread

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2002, 11:00:23 am »
I cannot believe no-one has mentioned Track n Field and Hyper Sports. I cannot stops playing these two games. My favourites by far.

And no mention of GunSmoke. Play this game!

Commando, Green Beret, Kung Fu Master. My favourites, and from my era.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2002, 11:48:18 am »
Track and field came up at 12pm a few weeks after I got my new keyboard encoder... why?  I was about to go to sleep and realized I hadn't tried it (since it sucked with a keyboard)... I kept my wife up until 2 in the morning and she was pissed!  GREAT GAME!  carpol tunnel will never allow another game like it to be made  ;D

As for METAL SLUG!  The reason why it should be in this list is its just damn fun to play!  GREAT GAME!  GREAT GRAPHICS!  GREAT GAMEPLAY!  GREAT WEAPONS!  I was a little disappointed in the sequals since they all seemed to be the same with new vehicles.  I was hoping for some new graphics with the same gameplay.  Maybe on a hardware system it could happen.


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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2002, 10:22:51 pm »

As for METAL SLUG!  The reason why it should be in this list is its just damn fun to play!  GREAT GAME!  GREAT GRAPHICS!  GREAT GAMEPLAY!  GREAT WEAPONS!  I was a little disappointed in the sequals since they all seemed to be the same with new vehicles.  I was hoping for some new graphics with the same gameplay.  Maybe on a hardware system it could happen.


But see that's no fun... saying a game is great doesn't prove anything until you disect it and tell everyone why it's great. ;) :P

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2002, 08:43:11 pm »
Just found a cool little game that I dont remember ever playing its called Motos.
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2002, 09:34:57 pm »
i was born in 1984  :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2002, 11:00:22 pm »
Ok, I found another one that I could not stop playing last night. Turf Master, the NeoGeo golf game absolutely rocks.

By the way youngsters, I was born in 66 and graduated in 84. There was an Arcade within walking distance of my highschool called Alladins Castle. Bright Lights, loud music, classic games. I am not condoning this at all, but a perfect day back then consisted of skipping school, going to Dunderbaks for a huge pretzel (stealing St. Pauli Girl beer upstairs) and going to Alladin's Castle with a roll of quarters to play Berzerk, Battlezone and Missile Command.

By the way, we could go to Alladin's anytime during the day, even on school days without getting hassled. Most of the workers were friends that got out of school early to work.

The reason I say all this is because the Neo Geo games are completely foreign to me. Having just discovered them, I am knocked out by the art, music and playability. I am really digging the neo's.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2002, 11:21:10 pm »
I was born in 79 so my gaming peak was around 90-93... the birth of the streetfighter.  I'm very good regarding knowledge of games from that era, that's why I can analize them as if they were a novel.  

We had an old theatre that had classics as well as the modern games so I was very fortunate.  I got schooling in galaga and galaxy force, sinistar and streeet fighter 2. (not turbo, super hyper mega, just plain old street fighter 2)  ;)    

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2002, 11:28:22 pm »
hehe, i was born in 1978, most of my gaming is in late 80s.  The bars had the classics as I tagged along with my dad to his pool tourneys.

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« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2002, 07:06:00 am »
I too was born in '79.  My fondest memories are of Outrun, After Burner, Super Hang On, Power Drift, Thunder Blade, Space Harrier etc.  Shame these are all broken / missing from the current MAME :(  My other favorites were RoadBlasters, Operation Wolf, Pacland, Super Mario Bros & World Cup '90 which play great in MAME ;D

I think when I got a Mega Drive in the 90's I got more into SF2 / Mortal Kombat etc.

I only got to play on these games when on holiday about once or twice a year tho, since there was no arcade near where I live :(

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2002, 10:09:03 am »
kgriffin,

I was born in 1965 and graduated in 1983.  There were two arcdes within a block of my high school, one was called "Fun Zone" and the other was "Dennis the Menace".  My friends and I were often there for hours after school. We skipped a lot of classes too.  I can only think of one time when school officials came around checking ID's.



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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2002, 10:26:57 am »

Ok, I found another one that I could not stop playing last night. Turf Master, the NeoGeo golf game absolutely rocks.

By the way youngsters, I was born in 66 and graduated in 84.


I love turfmasters... I like the different strategy you can employ with different players strengths... I tend to like the veteran guy from germany (van lendle or something?  i forget if he's the "technician" or the shot maker... he's NOT the tom kite looking guy)  but every once in a while I like to play as the power golfer and sweat out the putts with his unrefined (low sensitivity/big bubbles).  

I was born in the spirit of '76/finished  H.S. in 94 ... so I remember playing pacman/donkey kong etc... even moon cresta.  My arcade heyday peaked right after Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter II CE.  

FWIW I tried Metal Slug 1 and 2 and think its fun...  although now that I have unlimited quarters those type games are less fun, as there is less risk in losing your "life" - you just go continue nutz.

I used to have a couple of "secret" games that were fun that I never saw in an arcade but I can't remember the names -> it's gonna take me forever to find it outa the 1600 or so unique MAME roms now...

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2002, 12:02:12 pm »
Born in 69 here.  And thats why I was mentioning before... that all the classics that people are talking about I don't consider secrets... but what mame is about.

but the secrets for me is some of the new games I've never heard of are actually fun!

and I worked at an arcade before the streetfighter days.  And we would open up the guantlet machines and give infanite health... then wait until we got to a 'your shot hurt other players' and have HUGE death matches :)

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2002, 01:22:40 pm »
I was born in 1986 and i'm still in school so i guess i'm the young guy here, most games i never played before mame like defender and gauntlet, but anyway, i remember playing mortal kombat and neo geo games like metal slug and puzzle bobble.
I don't play arcade games that much any more. Here (ireland) some of them cost up to

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« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2002, 09:00:52 pm »

I too was born in '79.  My fondest memories are of Outrun, After Burner, Super Hang On, Power Drift, Thunder Blade, Space Harrier etc.  Shame these are all broken / missing from the current MAME



I miss those games... remember afterburner and it's great cabinets.  The stick would move by itself when in attract.  That used to amaze me. :)  Sega always made the craziest cabinets.  That's kind of a problem too.  I play all of these games now via finalburn and, well, they all suck now.  I think those super-cool force feedback cockpits had a lot to do with the gameplay.  

Still I wish dave would maybe pick up emu work again and try to add these to the current build of mame.  It's a shame that we have games from 2000 in there but games from the 80's and 90's are still left out.  It also seems like naomi will be emulated before the cps3 system, which is also a shame.  

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« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2002, 10:16:58 pm »
rad mobile needs to get emulated by mame modeler isnt cuttin it
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2002, 10:49:28 pm »
I was born in '66 graduated in '84 we had 3 arcades to go to Jungle Jims at the mall, Aladins Castle at the other mall and a place called porky's. At Porky's they would give you a Porky's T-shirt if you got the high score on a machine,When I got high score on scramble that was probably my best arcade memory.btw the last machines I remember the arcades getting before I quit going were Track and Field and
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« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2002, 12:45:44 pm »
I'm right there with you Papaw Slug. Same age. Track and Field was a big draw while I was still at the arcades. We used to keep a plastic spoon with us to play it with. We found you could run like hell by sliding the spoon back and forth over the two buttons. Set many a record using this technique.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2002, 05:11:50 am »
I have to add a game that came out the yearI was born
http://www.klov.com/F/Fire_Truck.html

Read the KLOV description.
" The fire truck never reaches a fire or any specific destination! "

I want to know the promo speech in order to get the game produced.  "Ok, we have a fire truck, but no fire"

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« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2002, 05:17:27 am »


Still I wish dave would maybe pick up emu work again and try to add these to the current build of mame.  It's a shame that we have games from 2000 in there but games from the 80's and 90's are still left out.  It also seems like naomi will be emulated before the cps3 system, which is also a shame.  


Agreed.  I'd like to see maybe games up to '94ish (or older) take priority over the new stuff.  Go into an arcade now and nearly ALL cabinets have some wierd / special controller so most of these are going to suck on a PC anyway.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2002, 11:52:06 am »

I'm right there with you Papaw Slug. Same age. Track and Field was a big draw while I was still at the arcades. We used to keep a plastic spoon with us to play it with. We found you could run like hell by sliding the spoon back and forth over the two buttons. Set many a record using this technique.


hehe, I used a pencil!  then when people I was with started saying that it was cheating, I learned how to use three fingers in each hand... I can now do it faster!

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #71 on: September 22, 2002, 09:04:46 am »
 
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Metal slug is the last of the platfrom side scrolling shooters and for good reason.  It is simply the best out there.  It's the ultimate evolution in the genre, it can't be taken any further.  


Someone once said something very similar.
"There is nothing more to invent. All the original ideas have already been invented." President of the Patent Office in the 1800's.

Anytime I hear someone say this it tells me they suffer from an extreme lack of vision. It can ALWAYS be taken further! You just have to wait for the right person to make it happen.

Here's a few quotes from Henry Ford:

"He can who thinks he can, and he can't who thinks he can't. This is an inexorable, indisputable law."

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2002, 04:32:49 pm »
Penguin-Kun Wars

Very addicting

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2002, 12:43:44 am »

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Metal slug is the last of the platfrom side scrolling shooters and for good reason.  It is simply the best out there.  It's the ultimate evolution in the genre, it can't be taken any further.  


Someone once said something very similar.
"There is nothing more to invent. All the original ideas have already been invented." President of the Patent Office in the 1800's.

Anytime I hear someone say this it tells me they suffer from an extreme lack of vision. It can ALWAYS be taken further! You just have to wait for the right person to make it happen.

Here's a few quotes from Henry Ford:

"He can who thinks he can, and he can't who thinks he can't. This is an inexorable, indisputable law."

"I cannot discover that anyone knows enough to say definitely what is and what is not possible. "



When someone makes a better platform shooter than metal slug it will have something so radically different in it that it will create a new genre.  Therefore I still stand by my orignal statement. ;P  Metal Slug has everything that's ever been in a platform shooter and more.  Any truely orignal additions to it would produce a different style of game.  

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2002, 07:53:18 am »
OK, I feel pretty young here, graduating in 2000 and all.

Now, I have to agree that Metal Slug is the best put together platform shooter out there, but kind of like Contra and all the silly ones that followed, anything after the first is just an elaborate repeat.

I agree that the basic concept has been maxed out, but there needs to be some variety. Sometimes I'll get bored and play one of the Metal Slugs at random and I won't even know if I'm playing a different one from the last time or not because they all seem like barely changed versions of each other.

Still a great game though.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #75 on: September 24, 2002, 01:00:49 pm »

OK, I feel pretty young here, graduating in 2000 and all.


You feel young because of that????  I graduated college in 2000.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2002, 11:49:51 am »
I was playing a few games last night and I remebered another old game that is obscure but fun.

Pulsar.

I played this a lot in the arcade.  It is not very complex, but the game play is quick and challenging. I actually prefer it to Berzerk, which is another maze shooter from the same era.
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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2002, 01:34:42 pm »
You are making me feel really old.

Grandpa Slug,  some of us would not consider you too old.

I was born in 1949 and graduated from HS in 67 and college in 73.  They didn't have arcades when I was a kid but they did have pinball machines at the CNE (Canadian National Exhibition) once a year.  Some of the older electromechanical arcade machines as well. I played baseball with the mechanical bat and ramp that went up and down for home runs when I was in my early teens.

Of all of the MAME games that I have played for some reason I have an attachment to the Metal Slug series.  I think it is just that I find MS really fun.

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Re:Special secret games... Opinions?
« Reply #78 on: September 30, 2002, 12:59:35 am »
Oh, man!  Thanks for letting me know about Track and Field!  That game is totally rad.

I just recently moved into my parents' house and they're not too thrilled about housing the arcade cabinet there.  I had to talk somebody into putting it in their place.  The other night I played Track and Field (without the arcade cab) all night long with some friends, and when my track-star friend heard about it he suddenly became all into having the machine in his apartment.  Yahoo!

So anyway, we got to play on the cabinet tonight.  Our quickest method of running is to use our fists and pound on the buttons.  Now there's blood stains all over the beautiful wooden control panel (Curses!  I knew I should have put some kind of laminent on there).

So much fun.