My Computer is really startin to piss me off!

[the3eyedblindman]

Ok, a while ago i had a thread about how i am not gettin video on my screen. I recently bought a brand new motherboard, and i hooked up just my video card, hard drive, memory, and cpu to it. I then connected the video card to the monitor and turned it on. I am still getting no video on the screen! no message that says "Boot failure". I dont know what the problem is, any suggestions could help.

[Bgnome]

are there any beep codes / beeping?  is there onboard video?  are you sure your video card works?  are you sure it is powering up?  is your monitor on?

[AmericanDemon]

If you are still not getting video.  Then its your video card thats the issue.  

[the3eyedblindman]

I know its not the video card, i swapped the video card into a working computer and the normal video came on. So its not the video card. The Computer doesnt beep when i power it up, it kinda makes a weird rumbling noise, some kinda weird vibrating thing. I dont know what the problem is, but really need help.

[daywane]

if its a pci card try to move it to another slot.
if its agp then you might be sol.
try contact cleaner in the slot.
this has worked for me.

[the3eyedblindman]

Motherboard just came outta box today, so i dont think it has to do with the slot, something is just wrong and i cant figure it out! i need help!

[the3eyedblindman]

I removed my jumpers off period and then the machine wouldnt power on, then i put them back, the machine powered on but i get no video, i have no idea about "jumpers" period. so maybe thats a problem?

[tiggertoo]

Rumbling noise? The only moving parts on a computer are the fans and drives. I would turn on the PC with the covers off and listen for specifically where the noise is coming from.

I assume you verified the monitor is good since you checked the video card in another computer. You may be having a power supply issue. How many watts is it? If you don't know, it should be printed on the power supply. This may also be the source of the noise.

You can also try booting the PC with the hard drive unplugged. If it crashed, it may be loading down your system.

Finally, are you sure about the micro and ram? Granted, you replaced the motherboard, but if the micro or ram are bad, they could short out the new motherboard.

Basically, more info from you would be helpful. How did you get to this point? Why the new motherboard? What's in this system?

[[derek]]

Here are a few things to check:

Grounding, verify that there are no standoffs that are causing a ground issue.

Check the tops of the capacitors on the board (in particular around the CPU, and interface ports).  If there are any caps that look bloated, its possible something shorted during installation.

Also, try bringing the system down to a bare minimum: video card only (no other peripheral cards), one memory stick (or if it requires dual, use the pair), unplug the hard drive, and the floppy.  Also The motherboard connectors - only have the power hooked up - sometimes the orientation of the connectors can cause problems; specifically the reset connector (depending on your case).

Of course if this is mounted in a card, most of what I said is useless.  Check the specs on the video card.  If it is AGP, verify that  your motherboard supports the proper AGP voltage. Most motherboards are keyed, but some of the less expensive ones are not.

- derek

[the3eyedblindman]

K specs i have so far..... MAxtor 80 gig hard drive hooked up to the motherboard. An AMD athlon 2000 Cpu in a Syntax Motherboard, i have a 256 meg stick of ram and the video card is an ati radion 7000.  All Those are hooked to the motherboard, then i have the small wire which says power from the power switch on the case  hooked to the motherboard so i can turn it on. It powers up but then nothing happens.

[tiggertoo]

You should be pissed!

Why would you remove the jumpers?!?!

You need to read the manual!!!

At this point no one can help you.

However, considering your lack of understanding, you probably didn't hook up the front panel connectors correctly.

[the3eyedblindman]

I tried moving them around on the pins thinkin it might make a difference, but it didnt, so i put them back to there normal spots, and reading the manual is what got me to remove them, i thoguht they might be set on the wrong pins, but there back to where they started now, just because i dont wanna mess with it anymore. What do you mean front panel connectors? See im really lost man. I buiilt the computer im on now but this ones giving me trouble. I need help.

[Raleigh]

What kind of monitor are you hooking up to?  I have a radion 7000 series card and had trouble displaying on a tv using the s-video.  Never any problems connecting to a standard computer monitor though.

[Goz]

PEBKAC

[the3eyedblindman]

rightn ow im just trying to work it with a normal pc monitor, but i eventually need it hooked through S Video to the Tv, for now i just wanna get the damn thing workin.

[tiggertoo]

Sorry took so long, I was reading about the conga line

Anyways, the connector where your power button goes to should also have a spot for the speaker and reset button as well as the hard drive active light. If one of the connectors is in the wrong place, it may cause your computer to not boot. I had a simular problem after replacing a motherboard I'm pretty sure I hooked up the reset button wrong.

[the3eyedblindman]

I figured just to start it up id only need the power button hooked up, should i try hookin the speaker led, reset button, ect wires up, does it make a difference on the computer booting up?

[SteveJ34]

I figured just to start it up id only need the power button hooked up, should i try hookin the speaker led, reset button, ect wires up, does it make a difference on the computer booting up?

Good to have speaker hooked up so you can hear any audible beeps.

What model is the Syntax Motherboard?

[the3eyedblindman]

its a Syntax SV400 mainboard. To hear the beeps do i just need the speaker wire hooked to the mainboard of do i actually have to plug ina soundboard and hook up speakers?

[exibar]

hook up the PC speaker and listen for the beeps.  How many beeps does it make upon boot?  remove the video card, and harddrive, cable and all, now how many beeps does it make?

  Only run with this hooked up:

  CPU, (no fan or fan cable), RAM, Powersupply  How many beeps now?  If only one beep, add the vid card, and try and boot... keep doing this until you get more than one beep... when that happens, that's your bad part....

  do a google for "POST beep codes" for your motherboard.  It should be listed in the manual under Beep Codes...

[pointdablame]

PEBKAC

That may be.

You shoudl double check your jumper settings again.  You say you have them where they were now, but you also said you took them OFF, which you should not do... ever.  Perhaps you need to have the jumpers on, but in a different position.  Also make sure that the jumper is touching both pins correctly.

Clear the CMOS, then try to reboot.

Double check your front panel pins.  Flip them around and try to boot up.

You should hear beeps as long as the case speaker is connected.  You really should hear beeps.  In fact, if you say that there is something turning on, at least sort of, check the speaker connection and try again.  You will hear beeps.  If you don't, your mobo is bad, new or not.  If you can get it to beep, you can help yourself much more.  There will be a listing of POST codes in your manual.

[the3eyedblindman]

K heres a question thatll make things alot easier for me, what all really has to be hooked up to get video on the screen, so far i have my motherboad with power from power supply, HD, Video Card, Ram, CPU, and the power led switch to the mainboard from the powerbutton of the case. I just wanna see video so I know everything is working properly, i dont wanna built the whole thing then try to figure out what the problem is.

[pointdablame]

that should be enough to get video. you have power to everything correct?

You should also take some steps back.  You need to get your POST codes.  Take everything out of the system but the mobo and CPU.  boot up and listen for beeps. It should correspond to missing ram, or missing video, or something that isnt there.  Put in memory... boot up again... etc etc.... you need to do some basic troubleshooting.

[the3eyedblindman]

i have power going to the motherboard and HD.

[SteveJ34]

its a Syntax SV400 mainboard. To hear the beeps do i just need the speaker wire hooked to the mainboard of do i actually have to plug ina soundboard and hook up speakers?

www.syntaxusa.com indicates this motherboard is 1.5v AGP only.

You indicated your video card was ATI Radeon 7000 of which there are several models, PCI, 3.3v AGP 2x, and 1.5v AGP 4x versions.

You indicated this card works in another system.

Which version video card do you have?

[saint]

No POST (beeping) is an indication something is locking up the box hard right at power up. Could be memory, power supply, etc...

Take out all your PCI cards temporarily, start with a PC with just the video card and memory. Disconnect all drive cables from the motherboard. Will it start the boot up? (memory test, beeping probably, etc)? If no, you should look at the memory or power supply. If you have more than one stick of memory in the system, take all but one out, and boot with just that one. See if it works, and if so then add another and repeat. If it doesn't, swap it with one of the others and repeat. Trial and error it until you're convinced all the memory is good.

Start reconnecting drives and PCI cards one at a time until you find what's causing the lockup. One you know the culprit you can start troubleshooting it.

Alternatively, take all the components from the bad PC, and try them one at a time in a good PC. Start with the power supply and memory.

Motherboard just came outta box today, so i dont think it has to do with the slot, something is just wrong and i cant figure it out! i need help!

[the3eyedblindman]

its a Syntax SV400 mainboard. To hear the beeps do i just need the speaker wire hooked to the mainboard of do i actually have to plug ina soundboard and hook up speakers?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=699283&CatId=877  Theres the video card i have.


www.syntaxusa.com indicates this motherboard is 1.5v AGP only.

You indicated your video card was ATI Radeon 7000 of which there are several models, PCI, 3.3v AGP 2x, and 1.5v AGP 4x versions.

You indicated this card works in another system.

Which version video card do you have?

[the3eyedblindman]

That didnt turn out right.... heres the video card i have   http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=699283&CatId=877

[Goz]

Can you try another video card in the mobo?

[danny_galaga]

did you try a different pci slot as suggested earlier? there is NOTHING built that can't be faulty straight out of the box. i spent several hours fixing the phone line on the weekend. several different problems occured at the same time (which always makes it confusing). turned out the brand new wall socket i used was faulty. phone plug wouldnt make contact.

anyway, you should eliminate the possibility that the motherboard has a faulty slot. save a lot of head-banging (and i don't mean rockin out to iron maiden!)

[the3eyedblindman]

its only got one slot for the video card, the rest are for other cards, the video slot is brown and back farther, then it has 5 or 5 white slots for other cards.

[danny_galaga]

oh ok. the brown one is (i think) one o them new fangled agp slots. well not that new fangled. the white ones are pci. the only way to test a single slot (without being a techy) would be to borrow another agp device off someone and see if it works or not.

thats me for ideas!! im quite bad at this sort of stuff myself  

[SteveJ34]

That didnt turn out right.... heres the video card i have   http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=699283&CatId=877

Okay, at least that confirms you have a 1.5v AGP capable card going into a 1.5V AGP only motherboard.

Appears many are doing what they can to try and help. With power to the motherboard, have you booted the system with only the CPU, Ram, Video Card, and power/speaker attached (no HD) to confirm whether you get any audible beeps?

Also, I would suggest reviewing manual and locating the jumper that allows you to reset the CMOS. I had a strange video problem once and this helped. Typically this will be a 3 pin jumper normally with 1,2 closed, 3 open. You jumper 2,3 momentarily then move back. This will reset CMOS.

[the3eyedblindman]

I appreciate everyones help and thank you for it, but for now i am going to bed I will mess with it tomorrow. Keep replying tho with any other suggestions on what i can do.

[daywane]

hook up the PC speaker and listen for the beeps.  How many beeps does it make upon boot?  remove the video card, and harddrive, cable and all, now how many beeps does it make?

  Only run with this hooked up:

  CPU, (no fan or fan cable), RAM, Powersupply  How many beeps now?  If only one beep, add the vid card, and try and boot... keep doing this until you get more than one beep... when that happens, that's your bad part....

  do a google for "POST beep codes" for your motherboard.  It should be listed in the manual under Beep Codes...

HAY Thats cool. I just leaned something new
I realy mean that . Thanks

[daywane]

I appreciate everyones help and thank you for it, but for now i am going to bed I will mess with it tomorrow. Keep replying tho with any other suggestions on what i can do.

Best Idea. I know It sound strange. very strange It even feeks my wife out . but when I have a problem like you are having. The fix comes to me in my sleep. I wake up yelling I GOT IT. and up out of bed and run to the pc. I dont know why but its just so.
also
Ijust remberd My P4 system I built ( I have only built 3)
I put in pc 2700 memory and the board would only take pc2100.
The stange thing was the pc worked great for 1 week and went to hell. I bought a new mother board and got it running. a few months latter i found out my problem and I am now using the 1st MOBO I had with pc2100 and that is the system I am using now
Video was the first thing to go out.

[RayB]

1. Sounds like you shouldn't be building your own system. You should never "just try stuff" with electronics. Things must be connected and configured in specific ways, otherwise your messing arround could have BLOWN something and now your new motherboard or other parts could be toast.

2. Follow manuals specifically for jumpers. If you do not understand what the manual is talking about, don't "just try stuff"! Find someone who knows.

3. The "whirring" is coming from where? It sound like your power supply is being overloaded. When that happens, usually hard-drives can't spin up... OR if your CPU fan isn't working right either, that could be making the noise, in which case if it failed, your CPU likely has burnt up and will never work, hence you won't see any video..

[the3eyedblindman]

K still gettin no video. I tried hooking up more things to the motherboard and power supply, like the dvd drive and flopp drive, and they open and everything, but i cant get video on the screen. I dont know what to do. And i have built a computer before, the one i am on now, i remember in the early stages of video testing it would say boot failure, system halted.

[the3eyedblindman]

K heres the info on my jumpers, i need some help. There are two diiferent jumpers, 1 is a 3 pin , description is "clear cmos" 1 and 2 is normal, 2 and 3 is clear cmos. The second jumper is "CPU Frequency select jumper" Then there is a table that explains about this one that says "

     JP8      JP9        CPU Frequency

short 1 2 short 1 2      100 mhz
short 2 3 short 1 2 133 mhz.
short 1 2 short 2 3  not applicable.
short 2 3 short 2 3 166 mhz.

Now my CPU is an AMD aThlon XP 2000, i have never dealt with jumpers before, this computer i didnt need too, Any help from anyone on how to set these will be appreciated.

[NinjaEpisode]

Um, isn't the XP 2000 a 266mhz chip?  If so, you got an old MB that doesn't support that chip.