Well I got it working, got a volt tester and checked the voltage of each pin I was tapping the wrong pin for 5v. I was following the diagram on the site, and I was looking from what I thought was the top (looking down at the board face up) which is not what he thinks is the top (looking at back side of board), oh well. I would have tried the others didn't want to do any damage. Ended up using a serial cable, so the is nothing funky about his serial cables, but the USB one I am guessing is special.