Track & Field and Hypersports seem to have slow responsiveness

[goofy]

Does anyone else notice that Track and Field & Hypersports seem to have poor response on the buttons. I've played these games on two different computers in the last week and on both computers the button responses seem to be a lot worse than the arcade versions. It seems that the game has conflict when both running buttons get pressed simultaneously (when you are running really fast) and the jump button seems to be slow responding as well causing me to foul a lot.

Is this just me and my setups or is this something that can be fixed?

[vader]

Goofy....I'm guessing it's somteing with your setup.  Right now I'm running in the mid 9's and jumping 8-9 foot.......which if what I recall is very close to what I did in the arcade many years ago ( and I was alot more coordinated back then )

What kind of encoder's are being used or are you using a keyboard hack..?

Tim

[foomench]

IMHN(ewbie)O, it is your setup. I didn't notice any problems with Track & Field last time I played, although I will admit that was 0.7x MAME. In fact, after multiple games (hey, the price is right   ), I was doing better than I did many years ago in the arcade. Sounds like a controls/encoder issue.
-foomench

[goofy]

My first computer has a control panel I built about two years ago using HAPP parts and a keyboard hack. The second computer I was just using the keyboard that is on the computer with the keys reassigned to the arrow keys to make it easier to press. With the control panel version I was running 0.56b_dos and on the keyboard version I was using Mame32 v85. Both performed identically.

The way I press the buttons is to tap two fingers (pointer and middle) on each button, as if you were doing a drum roll with one hand using two fingers. I found that using this running/button pressing method in MAME, I actually run a lot faster just hitting one button instead of both--which is very different from how I used to do in the arcade.

It's very strang and frustrating because I love these two games.

Try this, run the game and doing the 100m dash, hold down one of the buttons and bang away at the other one. The result is that you will stop and not move. I think that's what is happening during my running style.

Is this a MAME issue or is this the way the original game really worked, or just a keyboard issue? Because in Word you can hold one key down and type others and the other keys will register.

Thanks in advance for any comments.

[goofy]

Any ideas?

[RacerX]

I find that I run slower using two buttons as well.  But I can blaze using one.

I have a friend, however, that can get on my cab, use two buttons and blow me away.  So he's doing something different than I'm doing.

Maybe you're just having delusions of grandeur about how fast you used to be?  

[foomench]

I tried the holding the one button down as mentioned above and didn't move if I held one button down first and then used the other. If started running and then held a button down I didn't stop, but was slowed significantly.

I did poorly with one button, fine with two. I use two hands with index fingers kind of like a drum roll. Now I need to time that hammer throw better.

-foomench

[Inaba]

Heh...

I know exactly the problem you describe, and it flummoxed me at first as well.

The problem isn't with your hardware (or probably isn't) - it's actually the version of Hypersports/T&F that you are using.

One or two of the versions of Hypersports and T&F that are out there suffer from the one button = faster syndrome, while one of the others does not.

Try '88 games (Which is basically an updated Hypersports) - and see if the problem goes away.  I bet it does.

Try a different version of Hypersports and Track and Field, again, I'm betting the problem will go away.  

Out of about 10 different T&F and '88 Games derivitives I have, approximately half behave really funky when trying to press multiple buttons.

[foomench]

This should probably go on a MAME forum then, but since I'm here ... I've been using trackfld. I see there are three other ROM versions.

-foomench

[Minwah]

So to run are you supposed to hit the 2 buttons alternatively (sorry, I never played it back in the day   ) ?  Last time I played it I found I was best just hitting 1 button fast.

OT Anyone remember Daley Thompsons Supertest on the 8-bits?  A right joystick-breaker

[Knoxximus]

I guess if you just hit one button, it's coo.....just don't press the other one.

[foomench]

So to run are you supposed to hit the 2 buttons alternatively ...

I alternate. On a good day I can get the long jump speed to within the last two bars, similar to what I could do in the arcade. I know others were able to do better than me back in the day.
-foomench