tv out questions

[runback22]

right now i have a scan converter that i paid 100.00 for at compusa....its okay but when i play games on my tv the picture looks a little blurry and the colors are washed out....now i know i'm gonna lose quality going from the monitor to a tv but it just doesnt look as good as it should....i'm using a wega 36" w/s video.....i was wondering if anyone knows how much better a ati card w/tv out would be and if the difference in quality on the tv would be worth the extra purchase....thanks

[madk]

Using a vid card with s-video out should give you a much better picture.  I use my Geforce4 TI4600 and get excellent quality...especially since all old games run at such a low resolution.  The only time I would run into any probs is when I am trying to run a new game.  I don't even bother trying.  I only use the TV for mame and other emulation purposes.

I've also used it on my old Geforce2 with the exact same results.  I haven't heard any complaints about the ATI cards either.  You could get a good card easily for under $100.

-madk

[SNAAAKE]

ati rage fury pro works GREAT on s-video..i paid like $80 about a year ago..now its like $30...that should be more then enough if your tv has s-video input.

[Minwah]

I used the S-Video out from an ATI Radeon after trying a scan converter.  It was OK but I didn't see a MAJOR improvement.  Maybe I'm just picky?

[SNAAAKE]

no you are not picky....tv suck and thats that ...i dont even use tv..but looked OK...not good but OK.

[Howard_Casto]

I used the S-Video out from an ATI Radeon after trying a scan converter.  It was OK but I didn't see a MAJOR improvement.  Maybe I'm just picky?

It might have been a off brand radeon....  Ati gives superior picture quality of any tv-out card.  The only one I've seen do better was one of those $500 matrox deals.  

Scan converters give horrible picture quality in most cases, and this is from someone who isn't picky about the picture quality.

[toilet]

I also run an ATI w/ TV-Out. Have no real issues with it.

However, I hear a good scan converter, custom resolutions, and a hacked version of MAME is superior to anything else out there.

Check out Tetsu's TVMAME page at http://www.trouble-makers.com/kami/emulation/main.html.

[Howard_Casto]

I also run an ATI w/ TV-Out. Have no real issues with it.

However, I hear a good scan converter, custom resolutions, and a hacked version of MAME is superior to anything else out there.

Check out Tetsu's TVMAME page at http://www.trouble-makers.com/kami/emulation/main.html.

Ok did you happen to look at the price tag on that converter?  It's $1,795.00!!!!  You could buy a 25 inch arcade monitor and a high end matrox card to run it for that.  (Some matrox cards support arcade compatible interlace modes.)

That's not a "normal" scan converter, it's a mid grade one somewhere between a broadcast quality and the ones that you can pick up for a few hundered and look like total sh*t.  I have seen this particular one in action, and let me tell you it's nothing special...  it's slightly, and i do mean very very slighty better than standard svid output.  However, if you use that extra money to get a really good tv (like a sony)  and a really good, brand name ati, then you'll get the same picture.  

I did some "field testing" back at the university a while back is how I know.  

[Lilwolf]

you get what you pay for (1)  (including saving 10 bucks on an offbrand ATI card... don't do it)

But howard... what you don't realize...

the BEST output I've seen is with a scan converter.

a 2k+ scan converter running to a true arcade monitor!  Some of the great scan converters can handle arcade monitor native...  You aren't going to get more authentic then that.

and btw, If I got into emulation before I got married... I would have a 2k scan converter...  

With children....

I would be LUCKY to get a 100 scan converted on a 12" Black and white used TV

[toilet]

Ok did you happen to look at the price tag on that converter?  It's $1,795.00!!!!  You could buy a 25 inch arcade monitor and

I'm not the guy who wrote the site but I don't know where that price came from. The TView Gold is $170 new and can usually be found on EBay for $100 most of the time. That plus an NVidia card w/ vustom resolutions may be worth it to some.

[Lilwolf]

There are some scan converters (perfessional ones) that are WAY better then anything TView ever sold...

and they aren't 200 bucks.  They are a few Thousand.

The TView ones are considered crap compared to ATI tv-out.