What is easiest working way to set up jamma in this cab?

[the3eyedblindman]

 Ok, heres the specs of my cab im buildin , 27 inch tv, Ipac4 and Optipac, spinner, trackball, 4 player control panel. Computer running mame32.

What is easiest way to set up jamma in this cab, for games like nfl blitz, nba showtime, and golden tee? I know id need a Jrok to get jamma on the tv, but other than that i dont know the easiest way to set up jamma period in my cab, anyyone have any ideas?

[paigeoliver]

Um, setting THAT up to play JAMMA boards too would be a waste of time and money, it would be cheaper to simply BUY a JAMMA cabinet then it would be to rig up JAMMA in there too.

Also, you are seriously going to run Mame32 on a cabinet? Dude, get a frontend.

Blitz uses 49-way joysticks, which aren't the same as 8-way joysticks.

Also, it sounds like you are going to spend a ton of money on this and then run MAME32 on a TV set, I do that in my living room on my TV sometimes, looks terrible.

[SteveJ34]

On the subject of using TV and poor vid quality, I've seen threads about this several times....

Perhaps I am off base but I built my first cab (completed some 18 months ago) using an ATI All in Wonder card and 27 inch TV with using SVid.....looks great to me.

Yes, Windows is fuzzy but once you get into a game it looks just fine.

Am I missing something?

[the3eyedblindman]

i was told u can switch to 8 way joysticks in a setting on the game, and once a game is ran on a tv it looks fine. Anyways, I still need to know how to set up jamma using this setup.

[SirPeale]

Well...first you'd need the JAMMA harness.  Hook that all up.  Here's a pinout:

http://www.pealefamily.net/tech/mame/jamma.html

Next, sell the IPAC-4 and get a J-PAC and an IPAC-2.  You'll need the J-PAC to interface with the JAMMA harness.

There's more - a lot - but these first steps would be the first things to do.  In order to get a JAMMA setup, you need the JAMMA gear.  

Paige is right, you're going to do a lot more work than getting an existing pre-wired cabinet.  And you already have some of the wrong parts.

[the3eyedblindman]

How do u get your controls to work on the jamma pcbs, because using a jpac would only work for your computer?

How do u get a trackball to work, for games like golden tee?

[Goz]

You've identified the problem.

One harness plugged into either the JPAC or the JAMMA PCB.

I've not seen it actually stated anywhere that this works, but if the JPAC is recognized by a MULTI JAMMA kit it would be possible that you could wire all your controls and not need to switch harnesses between different PCB's / MAME.

-Goz

[paigeoliver]

How do u get your controls to work on the jamma pcbs, because using a jpac would only work for your computer?

How do u get a trackball to work, for games like golden tee?

This question tells me that this project might be beyond your skill level right now. Might I suggest finishing your Mame cabinet, and then making a JAMMA cabinet. It really will be cheaper to do them separate.

An automotive example might be. Person asks question about installing a Turbo Saab engine in a toyota truck, and then halfway through the discussion indicates that he doesn't know how to remove a spark plug.  

[the3eyedblindman]

Well thats why i made this thread, i dont know what im doing on the jamma part, i just wanna play blitz and golden tee Does anyone know why golden tee hasnt been emululated? World class bowling is playable and there both IT games. Thats liek the most popular game and its not emulated!

And i dont have room for 2 cabs, i just wanted one that will kill 2 birds with one stone ( jamma and mame if u didnt get that  )

[pointdablame]

Golden Tee isn't emulated because it is still a money maker.  IIRC, the MAME devs actually took some of the newer versions out of mame so as not to hurt the profitability of the games.

I've read almost all of the threads you have made, and never posted because I worried I would come off as a jerk, but after all of these threads, I'd have to agree with paige and say you probably aren't ready to take this on.  I'm sure you can do it, but you're probably better off setting up a MAME cab and then worrying about JAMMA down the road.  Do you have blitz and GTG pcb's sitting in your room just dying to be played?  If not, just go MAME first, learn firsthand, then read up on how to do a JAMMA cab correctly.  Otherwise, I'd worry that you will get so frustrated you might not want to finish any of it, MAME/jamma/or otherwise.

Just my .02

[the3eyedblindman]

Well, I already have the cab almost done, the artowrk is being made, the tv is bought, the computer is built, so it will finish. The jamma is just a side thing i wanted to do in the cab after the mame is up and running. Its just im not exactly sure how, i have an idea, but i dont want to screw it up and be able to play nothing. I have a question though, would golden tee work fine emulated? because alotta games like blitz are emulated, they just dont run good, but games like world class bowling, which is a trackball incredible technoledgies game, works fine in mame, so i was just curious if golden tee, lets say golden tee 99, was emulated, would it run good?

[pointdablame]

Like I mentioned, I think some newer versions of GTG were/are actually emulated, and run well.  They have just been taken out of MAME because they are still so commercially viable.

I've obviously never played the emulated versions, but I do seem to recall someon saying that they played ok when they were still in MAME.  Doesn't really matter though since MAME doesn't support the games anymore.

[the3eyedblindman]

Does anyone have an old "game" set with golden tee in it ? Like before it was taken out of mame, id like a copy.

I think that World Class Bowling would be a money maker, i always see those right next to golden tee machines in restaurants and whatnot. We should start like some kind of a "request sheet" with all our names somehow and send it to mame, saying how golden tee is very much wanted. We should start with 99, i dont think it would go well if we wanted like 2005 fore or whatever right off the bat, cuz i doubt 99 is still a moneymaker, its pretty old now.

[Goz]

The MAME Devs will not support it until it's time. They do not want to hurt the industry or bring an end to MAME as we know it. Why not play PC versions of these games? They are readily available and should look decent on your TV.

Requesting ROM sets, is a major no no arround here.

Dude good luck

-Goz

[the3eyedblindman]

PC versions arent real arcade games, i want the real thing, i think any kind of console or anything else in the cab takes away from the real arcade feel.

[paigeoliver]

PC versions arent real arcade games, i want the real thing, i think any kind of console or anything else in the cab takes away from the real arcade feel.

But the TV set doesn't?

[pcates]

Since you obviously want to continue this project at all cost.....
To set up the Jamma cab, just buy the board you want, buy a labeled jamma harness, buy the power supply you need for the board you get, buy the controls that you need for the boardset(if not the same as the ones you have). Wire up the jamma harness using some kind of disconnect system, so shen you want mame just switch everything out. Sounds easy right . I am sure there are ways to get switches to switch back and forth between the 2, but you first need to get them both working separately, and if you are able to do that, then you can work on a smoother switch.
Good luck.......and be careful not to fry anything use a multimeter!

[SirPeale]

Does anyone have an old "game" set with golden tee in it? Like before it was taken out of mame, I'd like a copy.

Just took a look.  Sure enough, Golden Tee, and Golden Tee II are still in there.

Now...if you're talking about the version that's in bars and whatnot, it's never been in there, and won't be for quite a long time.

And yah...ROM requests are a HUGE no-no on this board.  Please don't repeat that.

[the3eyedblindman]

I just think its very weird that world class bowling but not the newer golden tees is emulated.

[the3eyedblindman]

So if I bought a Golden Tee 99 board off of ebay, a Jamma harness, A JROk(So the Tv can be used), A power Supply? and wired it to my mame controls, I would be able to play it in my cab?

[Goz]

Umm... yeah thats pretty much it.

power, pcb, display, and controls

then you have a dedicated Golden Tee 99

-Goz

[pointdablame]

Does anyone have an old "game" set with golden tee in it ? Like before it was taken out of mame, id like a copy.

I think that World Class Bowling would be a money maker, i always see those right next to golden tee machines in restaurants and whatnot. We should start like some kind of a "request sheet" with all our names somehow and send it to mame, saying how golden tee is very much wanted. We should start with 99, i dont think it would go well if we wanted like 2005 fore or whatever right off the bat, cuz i doubt 99 is still a moneymaker, its pretty old now.

LOL, dude.... I think you totally misunderstand the purpose of MAME.  You cannot request games in MAME.  The mame devs aren't there to make you happy.  The whole mame project is meant to archive arcade machines so that there is a record of them.  Arcade enthusiasts like ourselves use MAME to play the games, but its not really even meant to play games.... it's meant to document them.  It's just a wonderful side effect that, in order to document and emulate a game, it becomes playable.

You can ask the mame devs all you want, but they will never put a game in because enough people want it.  IIRC, they were ASKED to keep GTG out of MAME because they still make money.  So as not to anger anyone, and to keep themselves out of the legal spotlight, they complied.  Newer GTG games will not be in MAME until it is allowed to be in it, so to speak.  Until that time, you are out of luck.  Use the PC games or buy the PCB's like you plan.

On a similar note, don't request games, it can get the site in trouble. If it gets shut down, then you'll have a real tough time finding out how to set up your cab, heh

[kevin]

The JROK only works for standard resolution boards. Not sure about Golden Tee, but Blitz is a medium resolution game, so the JROK won't do you any good.