Any difference between competition joystick and ultimate w/ hard spring?

[J_Talbain]

Any real differences?  Also, does the competition joystick work well with the default spring?  Thanks in advance.

[OSCAR]

There are many differences between these joysticks, regardless of the spring.  I reviewed the Happ joysticks here from a design/functionality perspective.

For my own cab, I would only use the Comp's, or possibly the Super's for a generic cab.  The Ultimates feel a bit weak, IMO.

[BombProofPlane]

competitions with softs are ok but will wear too much and feel like a new ultimate get a hard spring and a competition and it will feel hard at first but it moves perfect after a while

[chum]

is there a need to buy the optical or perfect 360 ones? keeping in mind that its just for general use

[Ryan]

Sounds like the competition is really good.  So what about 4-way play, from Oscar's review is sounds like I am out of luck.  Is there any solutions, besides adding another joystick?