X-arcade BYO kit

[chum]

Is it worth it buying the x-arcade build your own kit for US99.95 and then creating a cabinet yourself? Im thinking about doing this because of the X-arcade's cross console functionality.  Also how are the buttons and joystick feel on it?

[chanson]

My gut feeling is no... You get 2 joys, 22 buttons, "pc electronics"  and some interface / mode switch stuff.  That's not apparently any of the box itself.  If you're simply building a controler for your pc like the x-arcade unit, could be ok.  If you're building a whole machine, why not just get exactly the parts you need?  

$99 seems pricey for the parts.  The joys and buttons are probably a total of $30, an IPac is $39...

If their layout suits you perfectly, and you don't like working with the construction, you could pay 140 and get their panel complete, THEN build a cabinet to go with it.

[CD_Vision]

Well.. that's maybe what Xarcade parts cost. But actual HAPP controls would run you around $45, and that's at a discount from Bob Roberts too! The X-arcade uses custom made buttons and sticks. I'm certain that they don't compare to real Happs equipment.

I would say that if you want to build a controller out of Xarcade parts you should just pay for the whole thing. It's going to cost you more for the box.  I wouldn't use Xarcade parts in a real arcade setup though. Use Happ Controls to make your own.

[MrToasty]

I just recently bought some X-Arcade parts on Ebay out of curiosity - 2 sticks and 20 buttons for $20.  The sticks look and feel like Happ supers, but the buttons' threads are shorter and they do feel substantially different.  I'd have to agree with the others - either buy the complete CP or build with Happ parts.

[chum]

well, i was adding up all the parts,
20 happ ultimate buttons - AU 60
2 happ joys super/ultimate - AU 60
an ipac - AU 93
it adds up to 210
*building a desktop panel only*
i was under the impresison that the x-arcade was good, but i guess its not that flash now, the thing about the kit is that you can get an adaptor for it to plug into my gamecube and the ipac cant do that at all

buying the parts costs 210 while the x-arcade costs only AU 183 which also comes with multi platform capability

[chanson]

Like CD_Vision pointed out, the higher prices are for true HAPP controls.  The ones i quoted above are for XBOX parts.

In any case.  The point is, if you want X, $50 is not worth the trouble to build the thing.

[chum]

the reason that i want it is because it can be used with the gamecube as well unless there are other options?
also i realise that the happ controllers are much better, the point i was trying to make before (not very well) was the cross platform function

[Dave_K.]

the reason that i want it is because it can be used with the gamecube as well unless there are other options?
also i realise that the happ controllers are much better, the point i was trying to make before (not very well) was the cross platform function

Chum, you could build your own control panel based on the PS2 joypad, and just buy one of those cheap "converters" which lets you play ps2 pads on other console systems.   So you will have cross platform compatability with a BYO version too.

-Dave

[mrbasdf]

Maybe someone here can help me too. I was going to do a cross platform controller also, but does anyone know if a playstation one controller that isn't dual shock will work with the playcube adapter (or any similar adapter)?

[Howard_Casto]

This is just a hunch, but yes....

The ps dual shock is the most popular controller in gaming history (why I don't know, personally I'd rather have a n64 conroller or an xbox) lik-sang probably sells a ps to yo momma adaptor, so getting one to run for the box or the pc is not a problem.  I've heard that the ps to pc adaptors made by boom are the best.  Your only limitation with this is the fact that the xbox has more analog inputs than the ps2 controller and some pc games won't let you use the joystick.  

[SNAAAKE]

i got a software that will let you convert keyboard strokes on your playstation pads..using USB converters of course..and now you can play any game that works with keyboard only.

only works for windows..no dos..besides you will never get usb converter to work in dos.

besides who give a S__T about dos anyways

as for adaptors..

any controller work with any gamecube converter

..from what i know..i have seen pleany stuff like this.

there is this local video game store..i know the folks very well downthere.
they let me try anything and i only buy when i am sure how the thing work.

also they owe me  big time

i told the mame secret and now they are all trying to build cabs   hehe

[runback22]

i want the x arcade because it lets you use the analog controls on the ps2 and xbox.....i was thinking of buying the parts and making my own box......does anyone know if the parts work w/analog controls?

[chum]

so what im getting the impression is that i need to get 2 ps2 joypacks and muck about with them to create a 2 player panel?
is the ps2 joypad ridiculously hard to fiddle with (like the DC controllers ive read about)?

also am i right that the ps2 controller quality resides in the parts (i.e. buttons, stick) used not the input/output circuit board?

[Dave_K.]

i want the x arcade because it lets you use the analog controls on the ps2 and xbox.....i was thinking of buying the parts and making my own box......does anyone know if the parts work w/analog controls?

Just to clarify the X-Arcade's analog support:  They use 2 digital 8-way joysticks.  The most they can do to support analog is to "fake" it with these joysticks.  This means if a game really uses analog controls, the most you can do with the x-arcade is full pressure in one of 8 directions.  This seems perfectly fine for most fighting games.  But don't expect this to work with something like Maximo (unless you like to do a full out run in 8 directions all the time) .

-Dave

[Dave_K.]

so what im getting the impression is that i need to get 2 ps2 joypacks and muck about with them to create a 2 player panel?
is the ps2 joypad ridiculously hard to fiddle with (like the DC controllers ive read about)?

also am i right that the ps2 controller quality resides in the parts (i.e. buttons, stick) used not the input/output circuit board?

If you are going to BYO route, do not attempt to hack the PS2 Dual Shock to complicated for the newbie.  Just stick to hacking the original (all digital and cheap) PSX pads.  Some games may not work, but a majority of the fighting games don't require analog support.

-Dave

[CD_Vision]

The pad I have on this page works with all of the converters out there: http://www.darkravenwind.com/cdvision/superpad.htm