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Author Topic: Wiring P360 and T-Stick to 1st player controls? ...and *easy* P360 question.  (Read 1437 times)

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sofakng

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This weekend I painted my control panel box and installed nearly all the controls but I'm having a few problems...

1) I can't seem to hit ANY diagnols on my P360.  The instruction manual says to put the SMALL end of the acuator facing the TOP of the joystick if I want it to be used for 8-way.  Is this correct?  I'm thinking that perhaps if I switch it so the BIG end is at the top I might be able to solve my problem.

2) On my control panel I have two p360's (for player 1 and player 2) and a dedicated 4-way joystick (a T-Stick Plus).  I'd like the T-Stick to share the same controls as the player 1 p360 joystick.  I tried wiring the up, down, left, and right from the P360 to the NO connections on my T-Stick but that completely disabled my P360 (??) and reverses the controls on my T-Stick Plus.

So, how do I wire both my P360 and T-Stick Plus to the same Player 1 controls on my I-PAC?

Finally, is there a tool that will show me which keys I'm pressing?  I'd like to see if the P360 is actually sending a UP+RIGHT for a diagnol or if it's completely ignoring diagnols.

Any help would be GREATLY appriciated!

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Ok, I've installed my acuator backwards...

Would it be safe to use a flathead screw-driver and pliers to remove the e-ring at the bottom of the joystick?

I'm still having a problem with the T-Stick + P360 on the same inputs though...

Thanks again for any help!

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try using 2 wires, one to up on 360, one to up on t-stick, but both end at same up connector on your ipac/keywhiz.

ps, notepad will help you see if your controls are sending the correct keyboard commands.
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It sounds to me like you have the two joysticks wired up in series instead of in parallel.  So basically this means that the P360 isn't going to function unless the T-Stick is in function also.

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Well, here's how I have it wired

P360 (Up) --> T-Stick (Up, connected on NO) --> I-PAC
P360 (Down) --> T-Stick (Down, connected on NO) --> I-PAC
P360 (Left) --> T-Stick (Left, connected on NO) --> I-PAC
P360 (Right) --> T-Stick (Right, connected on NO) --> I-PAC

The P360's ground is connected to the Opti-Pac.  The T-Stick Plus's ground is daisy-chained to all the other ground's (which is connected to the I-PAC).

When everything is connceted like this, the P360 won't respond what-so-ever.  The T-Stick Plus seems to work but everything is reversed (the up direction registers a down keystroke).... very strange.

If I unplug the NO connections on the T-Stick Plus then the P360 works perfectly.

You said I should have them wired in parallel... Can you explain that a bit more?

As a side note, I have some buttons wired the same way.  For example, the player 1 button 1 is shared between a couple of buttons.  I simply have them daisy-chained from one button to the next on the NO connector.

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if the p360 is daisy chained to the NO on the t-stick, it should be electrically the same as running a wire from each to the i-pac.  i am wondering why you grounded the p360 to the optipac..  maybe that could cause the problem?

and forgive me if im stating something too obvious, but if you are looking at the microswitches from the bottom view, is the one on the bottom for up, the one on the top for down, while left is still left and right is still right?

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just a thought, but you do have 5v and ground connect to the 360?

EDIT:  oops, I just reread that the 360 works if you unhook the t stick. If that's the case, maybe the tstick has a short somewhere.  If you can't track it down, then I would do as I suggested above, connect 360 directly to the ipac (so you have 2 wires each going to up/down/left/right on ipac, one each from tstick and 360).
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if the p360 is daisy chained to the NO on the t-stick, it should be electrically the same as running a wire from each to the i-pac.  i am wondering why you grounded the p360 to the optipac..  maybe that could cause the problem?

and forgive me if im stating something too obvious, but if you are looking at the microswitches from the bottom view, is the one on the bottom for up, the one on the top for down, while left is still left and right is still right?

Well, since the P360 requires a +5v and a GND I figured I might as well just use both of them on the Opti-Pac instead of using the Opti-Pac *only* for the +5v and then wiring the GND to the I-PAC.

As for the microswitches, I do have them wired correctly (the "up" microswitch is at the bottom when looking at the bottom of the joystick [eg. all positions are reversed when looking at it from the bottom]).

I'll try moving the GND connection to the I-PAC later tonight, but until then, does anybody have any other suggestions for me?

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I've fixed my problem in case anybody is wondering...

On the T-Stick Plus, the COM and NO connections are *NOT* next to each other like they are on Happ's microswitches.  They aren't labeled on the bottom of the T-Stick either so that's why I wasn't able to figure it out.

Hope that might be useful to anybody else who might have the same problem as me.