I learned Kerry stands firmly for...

[DrewKaree]

 

[MasTequila]

Go to johnkerry.com and read under plans.

[APFelon]

Go to johnkerry.com and read under plans.

1. Build a huge orbiting space station
2. Put a large raygun on the space station
3. Demand one BIIIIIIIIIILLION dollars
4. Don't forget to feed the sharks with the lasers on their backs
5. Pick up a gallon of milk at the grocery store

That's it! He has my vote.

APf

[MasTequila]

I believe the raygun is called a "Laser"

[8bit]

I learned political threads on forms is just beating a dead horse.    

[DrewKaree]

I learned political threads on forms is just beating a dead horse.    

*searches for a dead or dying horse to thrash soundly*

Go to johnkerry.com and read under plans.

I may just friggen cry now that I've read his plans to save America!    I keep seeing under "plans" the phrase "we have a plan to fix _____ (fill in the blank)".  On the one forum where he has carte blanche to tell the WORLD what he plans to do, he sticks with the "I have a plan that will do it better" theme.  Please don't tell us what he's going to do would take pages and pages no one would read.

1 - I would read them
B - It can easily be nutshelled so we get his point

Seeing his website, there's almost too much to comment on.  I just went down his list of plans and opened 'em each up.  Sheesh.  Check out the "compare Kerry and Bush" on each point.  Reading what is said shows just how Kerry views our cowboy prez.  I for one am glad we got a "rodeo clown" sitting in the Oral Office (sorry, it's Oval again that the past occupant is out, keep forgetting that).

Saddle up voters!

[RacerX]

It's interesting how on one page he says he wants to do the following:

- Eliminate incentives to take American jobs overseas

But then in the very next section, he wants to do this:

- Raise the minimum wage to $7

I'm sure the President's campaign site has the same kinds of inconsistent ideas.  I'm not trying to pick on Kerry here.  I'm pretty much fed up with all politicians.  

[SpamMe]

http://JohnKerryIsADoucheBagButImVotingForHimAnyway.com

[mattv]

Don't forget to feed the sharks with the lasers on their backs

uh...I think you mean FRIKIN' laser beams, right?

The frikin' is very important for some reason.

[8bit]

I learned political threads on forms is just beating a dead horse.    

*searches for a dead or dying horse to thrash soundly*

Al Sharpton said "(the blacks) are gonna ride this donkey as far as it can get us"...  you counter with beating a dead horse as far as it can get ya

[danny_galaga]

id call you a sadistic, necrophillic hippophile but that would be flogging a dead horse...

[danny_galaga]

actually i heard much of kerry's speach on the news station the other day. very rousing. you guys sure know how to write a stirring speach!! i damn near started to sing the 'star spangled banner' ! id vote for him even though ive decided not to vote for the mainstream two in Australia!  he mentioned homeless people in Lafeyette park in front of the white house and that reminded of this pic i took across the street at the back of the white house.

help is on the way...

[DarkKobold]

DrewKaree = Brick wall.... where is floyd when we need to turn a post into irrelevant drival?

[fredster]

Sure, Kerry has a firm stand - It's all for KERRY.  Kerry wants what's best for KERRY.

Go Drew!

[DrewKaree]

id call you a sadistic, necrophillic hippophile but that would be flogging a dead horse...

I have been known to fancy live ones too!    Commie!  Move to France!  

[DrewKaree]

DrewKaree = Brick wall.... where is floyd when we need to turn a post into irrelevant drival?

He'll show up to post some related drivel, I'm pretty confident  

You say I equal a brick wall - how so?  I've had open dialogue with anyone here who has disagreed with me and I have been willing to look into any point someone brings up and shows me where they get the info to form their opinion.  If that equals a brick wall (I'm guessing you are referring to me not wavering from my position as being equal to said wall), then I stand before you guilty as charged, although few (haven't re-read those posts, so it may be none) have offered up what I have requested, so I'm gonna have to say the verdict is still out on whether or not I'm guilty.

Now I charge you with the task of showing me why I should change from the opinions I've formed.  If you think it a task not worthy of your time, then I state that your "brick wall" is something that you can proficiently speak of, as you've formed your own.  

My charge is that Kerry spoke at great length, used many words, and formed them into something devoid of meaning.  I'm still waiting to hear what all his "top secret, but they're all better than what Bush is doing right now, I'll let you in on it only if you elect me" plans, i.e. I learned of nothing he stands for other than "I'll do it better", and that's not learning anything about the man.  If it is, I'm running for office in '08, because I will do it better than anyone is currently doing it.  What is "it"?  Take your pick.  I kon doo eet!

     *leaves the request at your feet*

[DrewKaree]

I've decided to do my own documentary ala Michael Moore...I've used danny galaga's words and will be using them in my "picumentary"

actually i heard much of kerry's speach...the other day. he mentioned...(many things)...and that reminded of this pic (someone) took across the street at (his campaign headquarters)...help is on the way...(the grill cook will be late....he's hard at work at his second minimum wage job trying to support his family of four....when will our fine candidate's "relief" kick in?!?

*tries to remove firmly lodged tongue from cheeck, but to no avail*

[danny_galaga]

you've inspired me to do my OWN movie!! this ones a little more risque. i've also quoted your very own words!!

(i was in the shower and drewkaree comes) up and shows me (well) you (catch my drift)  from my position (it was damn impressive)  being equal to (anything id seen, and hey ive been in the navy), I stand before you guilty as charged,  so I'm gonna have to say the verdict is still out on whether or not I'm guilty (of peeking).

Now I charge you with the task of showing me (yours)
 (I, John) Kerry (declare my) great length. (at least) '08 (f)eet!
     

*tongue firmly superglued in cheek*  

[Goz]

John Kerry, Jimmy Carter, and Michael Moore should be on trial for sedition. It's shameful for them to act and say the things that they do to undemmind the current administration in a time of war. I'm not referring to the campaign BS but rather the comments such as the Bush administration is the cause for the terrorist attacks and stuff like Bush is responsible for isolating us from our allies.

The rest of the world is watching us and hoping things will work out. After all our economy has a direct effect on the rest of the free world. Kerry, Carter, and Moore should be put in Abu- garabe (sp) prison.

Just my .02

-Goz

[danny_galaga]

hehe. we're actually hoping you guys use a normal, standardised paper ballot paper that you write a cross on with an actual pencil just like the rest of the world!! not strange machines (in some states) that make (what the hell were they called?) hanging chads?
 oh, and we hope Kerry doesn't have shares in a really shady company...

[rchadd]

i don't really believe that politics should be discussed here

but anyway whatever your political viewpoint - you might like this game...

http://www.miniclip.com/knockout.htm

[mr.Curmudgeon]

John Kerry, Jimmy Carter, and Michael Moore should be on trial for sedition.
...

Kerry, Carter, and Moore should be put in Abu- garabe (sp) prison.

Just my .02

-Goz

This is really the most disgusting statement I've read on these boards. You really have no idea what America is all about do you?

I imagine you'd feel the same about a certain bunch of dirty colonists and their seditious attempts to undermine the U.S. "administration" prior to 1776.

Please think before you type.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Drew,

Are you really that desperate for political discussion that you'd try to start flame wars on an arcade site?

Jesus. Please stop posting this crap and take it elsewhere. We get it, you don't like Kerry.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Well, I'm trying to hold my tongue but I figured I'd at least try to help with your confusion.

Kerry-Edwards: Our Plan for America (PDF)

BTW, what exactly is BUSH CO.'s plan? Staying the course? Smoking Evil do'ers out of holes? Digging spider-holes? Defending against Terrah? Erroneously attacking another country based on falsified intel? (formerly known as lying)

You continually work to perpetuate various wingnut talking points while claiming to have an open mind. I'd charge that you are being disengenous at best when you completely ignore that fact that after THREE YEARS the Bush Administration has yet to form a solid plan on just about anything. You also seem to completely overlook the fact that our President's are mainly figureheads trafficking in 'ideals'. If you're not seeing enough specifics for your taste then you are probably looking too hard. The Republicans (controlling all three branches of government; Legislative, Judicial and Executive) have done nothing but advance a negative platform based on wedge issues and fear. Amendment anyone? Look at the country around you? Is it more united than is was four years ago, or more divided? Look at the world in the same way. What do you see? I see an America hated in the world. I see our citizens systematically controlled by fear using trumped up charges of terrorist attacks. I see an America destroying itself and I want CHANGE.

I believe Kerry deserves the chance to make a change for the better, I have hope in his presidency as I feel Bush has failed me completely and I no longer trust him. I'm not going to try to convince you of anything since you need to look for the answers yourself and you are not going to find them on the internet. They are in your family, community and country and the belief that you have of what's best for them.

Finally, even though I've engaged you in this horrible topic, I humbly emplore you to, in the future, stop posting politics on BYOAC. There are PLENTY of other forums/sites available for this sort of discussion and frankly, I'm sick of seeing here. I take part in plenty of political discussion myself, but until now I've had enough class to keep if off this board.

However, it's a free country (something Gozur certainly doesn't agree with) and imagine I'll just have to try ignoring your posts all together. Nothing personal, but I imagine the vast number of people populating this community come to this board to enjoy themselves in a union of shared interests and work to avoid divisive B.S.

[Jakobud]

For all you Kerry fans out there who seem to listen to everything he spits out of his mouth, you might want to read this enlightening little article on how Kerry recieved his first of three purple hearts:

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200405041626.asp

He fired a mortar round at a rock that was too close to him and the doctor covered his tiny wound with a band-aid... and he got a purple heart for it....

yeah... a real war hero...

This is a perfect example of how Kerry never tells the whole truth to the public...

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Jakobud,

Give us a break. The National Review? Not exactly the most non-partisan source you could quote. Why not just give us Karl Rove's phone number and we'll ask him personally about Kerry's service record? You know, get it straight from the horse's mouth. While we're at it, we can ask him for the remaining records that *prove* Bush wasn't AWOL. Hmmm?

I suppose you think Bush is braver for having avoided service all together?
Give it a rest. At least Kerry put his foot on foreign soil and put himself at risk, even if you believe that risk to be extremely limited.

Bush, on the other hand, was doing lines and flirting w/ would-be secretaries. Real ambition.

[DarkKobold]

Perhaps brickwall is not the best expression. But I don't see you changing your political views here... So debating them on the arcade board is pointless....

The whole point of the floyd post was to get floyd to hopefully ruin this thread off it's politcal path. Since he isn't here, I will start.

I like bunnies!

[Valence]

For all you Kerry fans out there who seem to listen to everything he spits out of his mouth, you might want to read this enlightening little article on how Kerry recieved his first of three purple hearts:

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200405041626.asp

He fired a mortar round at a rock that was too close to him and the doctor covered his tiny wound with a band-aid... and he got a purple heart for it....

yeah... a real war hero...

This is a perfect example of how Kerry never tells the whole truth to the public...

I like to remind you that he is not a 'real war hero' because of 3 purple hearts. He is a 'REAL WAR HERO' because  of the two other things that Repubs never bring up. A little silver and bronze star.

"This is a perfect example of how Kerry's opponents never tell the whole truth to the public.."

I agree with mr.Curmudgeon, rather keep it off the arcade board. There are enough places that I have to correct you idiot ditto heads as it is............;......

[DrewKaree]

There are enough places that I have to correct you idiot ditto heads as it is............;......

please, kind sir, do not lump me into that category, as I am not a ditto head.  You may call me a "Sick Freak", if you must call me names.

They are NOT interchangeable.

I like bunnies!

not enought time right now to respond to the rest, but bunnies suck, ferrets rule.  

I'll be back, girly-man  

[mr.Curmudgeon]

I'll be back, girly-man  

Hopefully not to post more trollesque political threads. Seriously. You are worse than a troll. Not sure how that is possible, but you've somehow done it.

In each of your messages on this board, including your profile, you link to (in no particular order): Glen Beck, another in a long line of substance abusing Right-wing hyprocrital blow-hards; Evil Conservative Industries, who produce your idea of fun wearables (I "heart" Halliburton T-shirts) - Tasteful considering they've made millions while hundreds of our soldiers have been slaughtered in Iraq; and Elmbrook Online, the online presence of a Christian Church in the midwest.

Why do you suppose anyone should debate with you given your absolute penchant for right-wing demagoguery? Although you are entitled to your views, posting such transparent "flamebait" just makes you a nuisance, especially given the nature of the discussion usually reserved for this website (ARCADE MACHINES!!!!!). You claim to be open-minded, while at the same time trolling for other people,-- in some vain attempt at moral vindication -- to try to "convince" you of something other than what you already, obviously, staunchly believe and it seems like a complete and total waste of time. WHY? Take this somewhere else...please.

Please stop cluttering these boards with your partisan filth and I'll promise to continue to do the same.

Thanks,
mrC

[Jakobud]

Jakobud,

Give us a break. The National Review? Not exactly the most non-partisan source you could quote. Why not just give us Karl Rove's phone number and we'll ask him personally about Kerry's service record? You know, get it straight from the horse's mouth. While we're at it, we can ask him for the remaining records that *prove* Bush wasn't AWOL. Hmmm?

Are gonna dispute The Boston Globe, the Seattle Times, and Insight magazine too?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/04/14/kerry_faces_questions_over_purple_heart/

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationalpolitics/2001920171_veterans05.html

http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/04/27/Politics/Purple.Hearts.Three.And.Out-656749.shtml

I don't know the whole story on why Bush wasn't in vietnam.  I just think that its funny how much Kerry glorifies his purple hearts for wounds that were taken care of with a bandaid (but of course he doesn't mention anything about that).  I'm not here to argue.  I am just trying to shed some light for people who only know what they see on the cover of USA Today.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

You mean to ask me if I trust the media. Answer, No. I prefer more direct sources. You can read what the dozen or so men who actually served with him have to say, including the man who credits Kerry for saving his life.

Most right-wing pundits tend to quote the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth, headed by right-wing lap dog John O'Neill, whose attacks on Kerry were funded by Nixon in the 70's. All of his B.S. is debunked here: http://www.duckstrap.com/swiftboatveteransfortruth_debunked.php

Read through it and see if you still feel the same way. Here's some of my favorite quotes:

"Is it really conceivable that Kerry had the doctors, nurses, and entire chain of command in his pocket? Could he wound himself, then work the system to produce a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts."

...

Why haven't any of Kerry's shipmates joined the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth? With the exception of one, all of his shipmates give him high marks for courage and bravery.

Do you really think Kerry and the several dozen people who served with him, treated him and commanded him are all in collusion to fool the public? AND if you do actually go that far, you expect me to feel that's a resonable thing to get upset about when it has already been universally accepted that our CURRENT President has, at best, exaggerated evidence which has led our country into a seemingly never-ending quagmire? As my grandfather would say, "I've got bigger fish to fry."

As for me, the whole issue concerning either candidates service in Vietnam is best summed up in one simple, unarguable visual:


Any Questions?


edit: spelling

[Goz]

John Kerry, Jimmy Carter, and Michael Moore should be on trial for sedition.
...

Kerry, Carter, and Moore should be put in Abu- garabe (sp) prison.

Just my .02

-Goz

This is really the most disgusting statement I've read on these boards. You really have no idea what America is all about do you?

I imagine you'd feel the same about a certain bunch of dirty colonists and their seditious attempts to undermine the U.S. "administration" prior to 1776.

Please think before you type.

I can see someone needs to lighten up. Perhaps adding a little fibre to your diet might help.

The Abu-garabe part was a joke...

But yes as a someone who has served this country I do know what it is about. It is one thing to voice opinion, that is freedom of speach. It is a completlely different thing to attack the commander and chief in a time of war with unproven aligations. Suprisingly enough, i am not a Bush supporter. I do believe he is the lesser of two evils and will continue to try and improve things in the middle east.

If the statements that Moore, Kerry, and Carter could be proved then great impeach Bush and put someone else in there, but please not the Waffle King and the rest of the Demoncrats that just seem bent on getting control of the White House any way they can.

I'm done with this thread it is not worth my time to debate ideals with people on a hobby board. We all have different opinions and in our own rights believe ourselves to be good people. Remember it is the differences in us all that make this a great country.

*PS if Kerry wins, I'm going to move to Australia or Canada were things are already messed up.   <--- again another attempt at humor.

-Goz

[mr.Curmudgeon]

The Abu-garabe part was a joke...

-Goz

Maybe I need to be a Republican or something, but I just don't find the humor in sodomizing young boys, raping innocent women, stockpiling naked men and beating innocent iraqi civilians to death.

I mean, I'm all for a good joke, but Gozur, I just don't think that's it.

It is one thing to voice opinion, that is freedom of speach. It is a [completely] different thing to attack the commander and chief in a time of war.

Then we differ here as well. I believe it's our absolute duty as American citizens to hold our government accountable for their actions, especially in a time of war. Here's some other quotes from notable people who agree w/ me.

"'My country, right or wrong' is a thing no patriot would ever think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying 'My mother, drunk or sober.'"

[DrewKaree]

Are you really that desperate for political discussion that you'd try to start flame wars on an arcade site?

To this point, this hasn't been anything other than civil discourse amongst people interested in the subject.  No one has posted here who hasn't wished their opinion to be heard and considered regarding a current and controversial topic, and each has conducted themselves as the sub-forum requests "leave hate at the door".  Even Gozur's post, while "expressive" to say the least, doesn't delve into any hateful actions he may want visited upon the "seditionists" he speaks of.  

I was careful to post this in the correct place, and looking at other posts here, I see other equally non-arcade related threads here, some being less-civil and as heated, if not more so, regarding their topics.  In each of them, it appears that the posters to each thread wished their opinion to be heard, as the subject tells you the nature of the thread (in most cases) before you even have to open it.  While titled in such a way as to draw interest, if you happen to be interested in the subject of politics, in no way could you misconstrue the fact that this thread was going to be about current political happenings and the opinions of them.  I fail to see how this topic and thread falls outside the guidelines set forth for "Everything else".  I've not made you open this thread, nor forced you to read/post to this thread.  It simply piqued interest enough, good or bad.  

I see people engaging in "divisive B.S.", ridiculing/shaming/hounding others for the "crime" of doing something considered taboo to a cabinet.  Should they too "stop posting this crap and take it elsewhere"?  In such a case, and as with my political threads, these are strongly held opinions, and in both cases these opinions can be taken to heart because of the case the person presents, or dismissed as the ramblings of a person uneducated on the subject.  If a topic cannot be voiced, it has been clearly defined (i.e. where to get roms).  If those guidelines are modified, I'll abide by those.  If those guidelines aren't adhered to, I'll abide by any actions taken against me as well.  To say that I can't post an opinion thread in the proper place because it's not in keeping with the general "feel" of the place is akin to telling me I can't go into my local Starbucks and orally debate these topics because everyone else there came because they wanted to enjoy their coffee or that no newspaper can publish an op-ed page because I want to enjoy my news-paper.  

In each of these cases, you are responsible for the choice you made to continue to listen/read my opinion.  I haven't infected your computer with a virus that automatically opened this thread on your screen without you having to press a key.  I'm sorry you feel as if this doesn't belong on an arcade site, just as others are sorry that someone MAME'd a classic or added a frankenpanel to a Centipede.    

You say "we get it, you don't like Kerry".  You really DON'T get it.  It has nothing to do with liking Kerry, it's that the future and direction of our country is important enough that I can take a few minutes out of my day to inform other like-minded people of information that I find offers hope, enlightens, is helpful, and tells a tale far different than that relayed through various "mainstream" channels.  

Obviously you were interested to see why this dunderhead continues to talk about something that didn't fit any other category, otherwise you'd have never opened this thread.  As well, the only people pleading that I keep this type of discussion off of the board are those that disagree with my point of view.  I'm not going to jump on my soapbox and scream censorship, I only invite you to stop reading what it is that I write.  If you wish to be taken seriously re: dropping the topic of politics, then simply never read/reply to them and watch them go the way of the dodo bird.  In case you've missed it, I do post to other threads, give help where I feel I can be of service, and offer attempts at humor, all without clouding those threads with my political diatribe.

regards,
DK

[APFelon]

Maybe I need to be a Republican or something, but I just don't find the humor in sodomizing young boys, raping innocent women, stockpiling naked men and beating innocent iraqi civilians to death.

I consume a lot of news daily. Can you cite a (credible) source where there are legitimate claims of soldiers committing murder, pedophelia, and rape? I haven't seen any of that except from the "wacky conspiracy" sites out there...

APf

[Valence]

Maybe I need to be a Republican or something, but I just don't find the humor in sodomizing young boys, raping innocent women, stockpiling naked men and beating innocent iraqi civilians to death.

I consume a lot of news daily. Can you cite a (credible) source where there are legitimate claims of soldiers committing murder, pedophelia, and rape? I haven't seen any of that except from the "wacky conspiracy" sites out there...

APf

Washington Post

NY Post

CBS

Telegraph

Guardian


Hope these are not the 'wacky conspiracy' websites you are talking about

[fredster]

Valence,

None of the rape alligations have been proven or even followed up in those articles you have posted.  Almost all of it is speculation and rumor.  It hasn't been followed up in months.  Just like the story that the Iraqis found a nuke under concrete, it's a rumor, not a fact.

I was in the Army.  I doubt very seriously if it was widespread.  I don't believe it's systemic at all. There's a lot more disipline in our forces than that.  It's a shame those very very few soldiers disgraced the US, but it's hardly a reflection on the US forces.  I hope all of them are punished to the full extent of the law.

It's a sad comment on our country that people would even believe that the US actually would beat people to death.  It's against all our laws.  I'm not saying it couldn't happen.  But its a crime and the shear number of soldiers increases the likelyhood of a bad apple here and there.  

As far as the deaths, well, people die in tough situations.  Today a man died in our plant.  He was working, had a heart attack and fell.  It happens. In my unit in the army we had 100 people.  In two years, 6 of the died in unrelated events.  There's a lot of stress on both ends, war is a nasty thing.  Just because they died in the custody of US forces doesn't mean we killed them.  

I hate to see rumor and enuendo passed off as news stories.  I hate to see opinions filter into the straight news, (in right or left views), that's what divides us.  It makes us think the worst of each other all the time.

[menace]

I prefer concave buttons to convex buttons--call me crazy but old school is the way to go.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Even Gozur's post, while "expressive" to say the least, doesn't delve into any hateful actions he may want visited upon the "seditionists" he speaks of.

Your intellectually dishonesty is staggering. Why, exactly, do you think Gozur suggested dissenters be placed in Abu Ghraib? So they could trades notes? He dislikes what Carter, Moore, et al, have to say and he suggested they be put in a prison now infamous for the torture KNOWN to have taken place. Soliders have been indicted and CONVICTED of such. It just isn't funny and I can't stand it when people try to pawn off an inappropriate comment as a "joke". Ha ha, people were tortured and America lost uncalcuable amounts of respect in the world, let's send people I disagree with there, HA HA. And here you defend such a comment.

I see people engaging in "divisive B.S.", ridiculing/shaming/hounding others for the "crime" of doing something considered taboo to a cabinet.  Should they too "stop posting this crap and take it elsewhere"?  

Great comparison. Our country, our cabinets. You obviously have some masochistic desire to spread your partisan rhetoric in the guise of "informing" others. Well, how about responding to my post above directing you to possible answers to your disengenuine query (this topic) about Kerry's political stance? Read the PDF...or were you never really interested in Kerry's views to begin with? It seems to me you aren't trying to inform anyone, your are trying to persuade...without being forthright and/or fair.

In each of these cases, you are responsible for the choice you made to continue to listen/read my opinion.  I haven't infected your computer with a virus that automatically opened this thread on your screen without you having to press a key.

Actually Bush support is a virus, I hope you're not infected.

I'm sorry you feel as if this doesn't belong on an arcade site, just as others are sorry that someone MAME'd a classic or added a frankenpanel to a Centipede.    

That's certainly a streeeeeeeeeetch. You're a partisan hack and I'm calling you out. I am going to try to avoid wasting my time with any more of your "informed" posts as I feel I've done my job painting you as the hypocritical bloviator that you are. If you feel you're actually doing some good posting your pablum, more power to you. Better that than having you out in the streets foaming at the mouth. Screaming, "The end is nigh, the end is nigh!"
 

You say "we get it, you don't like Kerry".  You really DON'T get it.  It has nothing to do with liking Kerry, it's that the future and direction of our country is important enough that I can take a few minutes out of my day to inform other like-minded people of information that I find offers hope, enlightens, is helpful, and tells a tale far different than that relayed through various "mainstream" channels.  

Again I call "shenanigans". You're publishing Republican talking points on an arcade website. If you really cared about this country you'll be voting for Kerry, end of story. Bush is a failure and to continue to support him (even indirectly) is tantamount to a character flaw at this point in the running. You know what's funny, maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen you outright express your support for Bush. Either you aren't brave enough to do so, or you really have nothing better to do than bag on the viable alternatives. I'm guessing you've bought Bush's whole "compassionate conservatism" spiel, since he's been "born again" -- Personally I feel being born again is for the week-kneed who refuse to grow up -- and you're just one more doey-eyed foot soldier marching lock-step with the Bushinistas in the culture war. You have a blatantly obvious agenda and you're being completely dishonest about your "open-mindedness".

As well, the only people pleading that I keep this type of discussion off of the board are those that disagree with my point of view.

Get off the cross, someone else needs the wood.

I'm not going to jump on my soapbox and scream censorship, I only invite you to stop reading what it is that I write.  If you wish to be taken seriously re: dropping the topic of politics, then simply never read/reply to them and watch them go the way of the dodo bird.

Your wanton wingnut topics will continue to piss me off, but I promise to hold off as much as possible. However, sometimes a troll needs to be labelled a troll.

In case you've missed it, I do post to other threads, give help where I feel I can be of service, and offer attempts at humor, all without clouding those threads with my political diatribe.

Yeah, that giant conservative banner on each of your posts certainly feigns relevancy on retro gaming threads.

Brothers in Jebus,
mrC