Is this a Good Ebay deal??? New to building arcades

[Mock]

I'm brand new to building arcades, in fact, I havn't built one yet. I've just been reading up on this site. However I'm not sure exactly controllers are good, so if some one could tell me if this ebay deal is a good idea that would be great. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13716&item=6102329094&rd=1  If the people that have some experience could help me with this that would be great. Also the deal seems that its 2 controllers that have 4/8 way and 20 buttons is that correct. thx for any future responds

[Mock]

Also i want to know if these parts will work with the keyboard hacking that is talked about so much on this site.

[mahuti]

It's not a bad deal at all. Those sticks are good quality from the makers of x-arcade. They're not the best, and the buttons are all the same color.

They will work with keyboard hacking.

(if you have a few extra bucks there are a lot of other options available, but 19.95 is a good price)

[NoOne=NBA=]

The sticks they use are a knockoff of the Happs Super Joysticks.
The Real Bob Roberts sells them for $9.50 ea., and they are rated to 10,000,000 cycles.

The buttons are knockoffs too.
Bob sells those for $1.45 ea., and is real good on shipping costs.

Given that pricing, the ebay deal is pretty good for what you are getting.
The shipping is good, and the price is worth it for the buttons alone.

One thing I would point out is that the 4-way function on the Supers is about non-existant.
They "claim" that you can do 4-way by switching the actuator around, but they don't really work that well for 4-way games.

There are alot of sticks out there that I think are better than these (T-stiks, Wico leafswitch sticks notably), but you will pay for them.

All of these sticks/buttons will work with a keyboard hack, but you are better off getting an encoder (KeyWiz or I-pac).
The work is alot less (screw terminals, as opposed to soldering on the circuit board), and the results are much better.

Keyboard hacks usually have problems with not allowing certain keys to be pressed together (matrix issues), or sending false codes when certain keys are pressed together (ghosting).
The encoders eliminate this because they are designed to be multi-controller devices, which merely "pretend" to be a keyboard.

[krick]

I'd recommend that you pick up the Project Arcade book.  It's an awesome resource for this hobby...

http://www.projectarcade.com/

[mahuti]

I'd have to agree with that completely.