Selling Son's Beloved PlayStation 2 For Punishment!

[SNAAAKE]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8107675670&rd=1

Nice...

[Minwah]

LOL, that'll teach the little punk  

[menace]

Good for her--I always thought today's kids got away with way too much what with all the rules about not beating them

hey you kids--get off my lawn!   g*d-D&mn whippersnapper's....

[maraxle]

That rules.  Good for her.  At least it'll pay for the champagne the little moron drank.

[zaphod]

I agree, good for her!  If I had done even half that when I was that age, I would have ended up battered, sleeping on the lawn,  and had ALL my stuff given away.  

Many (not all) of today's youth have no respect for property.

[SirPeale]

I sent her a mail, commending her on her good behaivior.

[GadgetGeek]

I would have ended up battered, sleeping on the lawn,  and had ALL my stuff given away.  

Many (not all) of today's youth have no respect for property.

Are you sure you aren't remembering your college days

[zaphod]

Are you sure you aren't remembering your college days

No chance of that.  I have a diploma that says I spent four years there but little or no memory of that era.

[ChadTower]

$120 bottle!  Man, if I had drank my father's $120 bottle he'd have taken his wooden leg off, beat me to a bloody pulp with it, put it back on, put the foot up my a**, and left me laying in the yard for someone to discover.

That auction actually reminds me of how I got my ps2.  I was at a yard sale and bought some Genesis games.  A woman from across the street, who was also having a yard sale, mentioned that they had an Xbox they may sell but her son wouldn't get out of bed to help with the yard sale.  She went back to get him out of the house to show me, he still wouldn't get up, and she said "it's not an Xbox, it's a Playstation 2, do you still want it?"  I said sure, so she sent her daughter in to get the kid.  Well, the daughter comes out with the PS2, two controllers and a few games.  The girl is upset.   "He shoved me out of his room, hurt my arm, and called me a fat hobag."  She's now got a developing bruise in the shape of a handprint on her arm.  Her mother takes one look at that and says, "I've had it with that little a**hole.  Give her $40 for everything."  The daughter took the $40 and said she was going to buy herself a sweater.

[Dave_K.]

LOL, that'll teach the little punk  

A 6'3 13 yr old isn't a little punk!    And who puts a $120 bottle of champagne in the frig for over a year and doesn't tell their kids what its for and do not touch it!!?  Plain ignorance.

[maraxle]

And who puts a $120 bottle of champagne in the frig for over a year and doesn't tell their kids what its for and do not touch it!!?  Plain ignorance.

I think it's kind of implicit that a 13 year old shouldn't be touching a bottle of champagne, be it a $120 bottle or a $12 bottle.  Sounds like the kid is out of control.  If I had acted like that, I would have ended up at military school.

[abrannan]

Remind me whenever I want to sell something mundane on Ebay to make up some great little sob story about it so people will post it to various news sites  and drive up bidding on it.  Not that I'm doubting this story, or the wedding dress guy's story in any way, I'm really not, but it just seems like using a little creativity could net me an extra 40% cash on the item.  

Ebay...  Now it's an art form.

Incidentally, she sold the bugle anyway, and received positive feedback for it, so she's not out the $51 she said she was (and 10 minutes with a soldering Iron and some slide oil would have repaired the damage done to a 50+ year old bugle).  Replacing the '95 Dom will probably set her back more than $120 now anyway.  '96 Dom is going for $120 right now, and the only '95 I could find in 2 minutes on google was 90+ Euros.  

God, how bored am I that I'm nit-picking a flippin' Ebay auction that has ended?  Someone stop me!

[DarkKobold]

abrannan: if it is any comfort, you provided me with approx ~ 22.3 seconds of entertaining reading...

[abrannan]

abrannan: if it is any comfort, you provided me with approx ~ 22.3 seconds of entertaining reading...

Well, then I guess it's all good.

[DrewKaree]

A 6'3 13 yr old isn't a little punk!    And who puts a $120 bottle of champagne in the frig for over a year and doesn't tell their kids what its for and do not touch it!!?  Plain ignorance.

You say plain ignorance on mom's part?  How ignorant (fricken illiterate & lazy more like it)  kid can't read the label and figure it out?  And you blame mom!  Hey, made any money from McDonald's lately due to the fact that "they didn't warn you about the health benefits of their food "??

My dad had a lighter that all the guys in his platoon bought....he never talked about the war he fought in, never told me what the lighter meant to him, nothing.  Yet somehow, my feeble little brain told me to never touch the thing or mess around with it....if that e-bay story makes mom ignorant for not telling the kid about it, I must be a certified genius for knowing without being told not to mess around with my dad's war stuff.  Start blaming the kid....make 'em responsible for something before Johnny Law has to put the smackdown on 'em for wising off during a routine traffic stop, landing 'em in jail or worse.

[Jam161]

it sounds like shes more mad about the money then about him drinking though

 

I never drank when I was 13

[iwillfearnoevil]

Remind me whenever I want to sell something mundane on Ebay to make up some great little sob story about it so people will post it to various news sites  and drive up bidding on it.  

agreed 100%. i remember one guy selling a big beanie baby auction supposedly of his exwifes to get revenge. and claiming he knew nothing about them when people wrote in asking if they were real or counterfeit

[shmokes]

Videogames rot your brain.  They should be illegal in all forms.

[Harry Potter]

Videogames rot your brain.  They should be illegal in all forms.

yeah..... YEAH!! I agree. I'm donating my arcade cab to anyone who can guess my high score on Galaga or Asteriods.  

Serious!

[DaveMMR]

Videogames rot your brain.  They should be illegal in all forms.

yeah..... YEAH!! I agree. I'm donating my arcade cab to anyone who can guess my high score on Galaga or Asteriods.  

Serious!

Do I have to be exact or is it one of things where I can be the closest without going over?  

124,982?

[abrannan]

Videogames rot your brain.  They should be illegal in all forms.

yeah..... YEAH!! I agree. I'm donating my arcade cab to anyone who can guess my high score on Galaga or Asteriods.  

Serious!

Your Asteroids high score is the same as mine: 1180

[GamingGreg]

Nice to see a parent showing some "backbone" these days.  I see too many parents trying to be "friends" to their kids instead of "parents".   Way to go!

[DaveJ-UK]

That's so damn harsh and a great way to make the kid hate you real quick. Most kids would have to save MONTHS for a $150+ PS2 on their parents tight ass $2 a week pocket money. I'm sure some would hold a grudge and start stealing from their parents.

Most 13 yr olds wouldn't be too interested in drink but some kids grow up faster than others and by the sound of this kid (being 6'3 and all) he's obviosuly ~16 physically.

If drink wasn't such a "forbidden fruit" in the US would he have bothered if he'd tried it before and come to his own conclusion that it's not all that? Kids should know better, but they do these things.

The best punishment is to tell them how disappointed you are. Shouting, grounding, etc. just makes them hate you. I'd have asked the kid what he though should be his punishment. It's all about respect, and respect works both ways.

And what occasion is going to be special enough for a

[DaveMMR]

The best punishment is to tell them how disappointed you are. Shouting, grounding, etc. just makes them hate you. I'd have asked the kid what he though should be his punishment. It's all about respect, and respect works both ways.

Yeah... that works.  

I'd delve further but I'm currently in the middle of a time out.

[mattv]

Welcome new board members to.....

"The White Trash Thread"

[abrannan]

That's so damn harsh and a great way to make the kid hate you real quick. Most kids would have to save MONTHS for a $150+ PS2 on their parents tight ass $2 a week pocket money. I'm sure some would hold a grudge and start stealing from their parents.

Most 13 yr olds wouldn't be too interested in drink but some kids grow up faster than others and by the sound of this kid (being 6'3 and all) he's obviosuly ~16 physically.

If drink wasn't such a "forbidden fruit" in the US would he have bothered if he'd tried it before and come to his own conclusion that it's not all that? Kids should know better, but they do these things.

The best punishment is to tell them how disappointed you are. Shouting, grounding, etc. just makes them hate you. I'd have asked the kid what he though should be his punishment. It's all about respect, and respect works both ways.

And what occasion is going to be special enough for a

[SirPeale]

Spoiled?  Hell, yes.  Couple kids I knew growing up would rake in a couple thousand mowing lawns over summer break.  

How's that being spoiled?  I used to mow lawns during the Summer (and in the Spring to get money so I could rent a tux for the prom) and busted ---my bottom--- doing it.  It's hard work!

[Harry Potter]

Videogames rot your brain.  They should be illegal in all forms.

yeah..... YEAH!! I agree. I'm donating my arcade cab to anyone who can guess my high score on Galaga or Asteriods.  

Serious!

Do I have to be exact or is it one of things where I can be the closest without going over?  

124,982?

Exact and wrong (phew).  

My asteroids score isn't that low.

[abrannan]

Spoiled?  Hell, yes.  Couple kids I knew growing up would rake in a couple thousand mowing lawns over summer break.  

How's that being spoiled?  I used to mow lawns during the Summer (and in the Spring to get money so I could rent a tux for the prom) and busted <auto-censored> doing it.  It's hard work!

No, I meant the ones who are given $20/week for doing nothing are spoiled, sorry.  Mowing lawns in the Cincinnati (where I grew up, gotta love 90% humidity) summertime is hellacious, unforgiving, masochistic work.

[DrewKaree]

That's so damn harsh and a great way to make the kid hate you real quick.

welcome to the wonderful world of being a parent....and no, you don't spell parent "f-r-i-e-n-d".  What's harsh is letting your kid go through life thinking there's no consequences to their actions.  The sooner junior realizes that, the less likely it will be that life will kick him squarely in the teeth, and even STILL, there's no guarantee.

Most kids would have to save MONTHS for a $150+ PS2 on their parents tight ass $2 a week pocket money. I'm sure some would hold a grudge and start stealing from their parents.

you're assuming this kid bought this thing himself.  The ones who would hold a grudge are the ones who haven't been taught a healthy respect for authority and the consequences of, and responsiblity for, one's own actions.

Most 13 yr olds wouldn't be too interested in drink but some kids grow up faster than others and by the sound of this kid (being 6'3 and all) he's obviosuly ~16 physically.

By that logic, at least one of my three of my kids (all within an inch, smaller AND bigger) would be craving the stuff, if they hadn't been PARENTED properly.  

If drink wasn't such a "forbidden fruit" in the US would he have bothered if he'd tried it before and come to his own conclusion that it's not all that?

and peace would reign over the whole kingdom.....here kid, try this....if you hopefully don't like it, I can sleep well tonight thinking I'm a great dad  

The best punishment is to tell them how disappointed you are. Shouting, grounding, etc. just makes them hate you. I'd have asked the kid what he though should be his punishment. It's all about respect, and respect works both ways.

You aren't learning to differentiating between discipline and punishment.  Look the words up.  You've mistaken administering discipline with 40 lashes.  Oh, and respect didn't work both ways in this case, but you didn't make note of that, so I thought I'd help you on that.  He's shown a complete lack of respect in more than one instance, but you need this to fit your scenario.  If you treat kids your way they'll hate you for a different reason; for not equipping them with simple guidelines that will help them to function in a normal society.

And what occasion is going to be special enough for a

[wrx2hot4u]

Son,
A woman is much like aaa refridgerator! There about 6ft tall, weigh about 300 pounds... ok bad example!
I known! A woman is much like a beer, they look good they smell good you would even step over your own mother to get 1. But you can't stop at 1 woman you have to get another woman!.........................................................

... So I said, you want that balony, cause I didn't want it ! ........... YOUU MAKEE MEE WANA WReCh!!!!!!!

*Head hits table*

[ChadTower]

That's so damn harsh and a great way to make the kid hate you real quick.

No, that's not all that harsh.  You want to know harsh?  Harsh is getting kicked around the house for an hour over something like that.  Sneaking home, inviting unknown friends over, serving them alcohol, drinking the $120 bottle, lying about it to the parents, lying again later when confronted with it, blatant disrespect of a side business the mother is running... sounds like they finally hit the breaking point.  When I was a kid that breaking point would have been my A**.  This really sounds like it's not one incident but a continuing pattern of disrespect and deceit on the part of this kid.  I'd be willing to bet it gets a lot worse before it gets better.  Sell his PS2?  Oh no!  What's he going to do now, go outside and play?  Get a girlfriend?  Be a teenager?

[DaveJ-UK]

welcome to the wonderful world of being a parent....and no, you don't spell parent "f-r-i-e-n-d".  What's harsh is letting your kid go through life thinking there's no consequences to their actions.  The sooner junior realizes that, the less likely it will be that life will kick him squarely in the teeth, and even STILL, there's no guarantee.

As a parent your kid(s) should be able to approach you and talk to you about ANYTHING without thinking they're going to get chewed off, or worse. I didn't say don't do anything; I said you should talk to the kid. If the kid learns early on that no matter what he does, he gets his ear bent / slapped around / whatever, in the end they won't care and will do as they please.

you're assuming this kid bought this thing himself.  The ones who would hold a grudge are the ones who haven't been taught a healthy respect for authority and the consequences of, and responsiblity for, one's own actions.

True, I guess I assumed the kid bought it. However, if they feel they were dealt with totally unfairly all that respect goes straight out the window and they may well take what they feel is theirs. As a parent, you have to be very careful being judge, jury and executioner.

By that logic, at least one of my three of my kids (all within an inch, smaller AND bigger) would be craving the stuff, if they hadn't been PARENTED properly.

That is absolute rubbish. I was always allowed a shandy or a half (pint) with a meal or a small drop of wine at about his age. I never really liked wine as a kid and still only drink lager. Never did me any harm...

and peace would reign over the whole kingdom.....here kid, try this....if you hopefully don't like it, I can sleep well tonight thinking I'm a great dad

huh?

You aren't learning to differentiating between discipline and punishment.  Look the words up.  You've mistaken administering discipline with 40 lashes.  Oh, and respect didn't work both ways in this case, but you didn't make note of that, so I thought I'd help you on that.  He's shown a complete lack of respect in more than one instance, but you need this to fit your scenario.  If you treat kids your way they'll hate you for a different reason; for not equipping them with simple guidelines that will help them to function in a normal society.

It sounds to me like the kid invited some friends over for a sly beer. Now a 6 pack (i'm assuming 6 pack because it was $6) doesn't go too far between 3 big lads. so they're tipsy and go looking for more booze. Go straight to the fridge and find some "wine". After that I guess they just started having some fun resulting in the "wrecked" house. After an hour or so they sobered up a bit and tried to clear up after themselves resulting in the half-baked cover up attempt!

well wait just a minute....shouldn't you "respect" their idea of a special occasion?!  How utterly disrespectful to think you should be best suited to tell them what, how, and why they should celebrate something!  Perhaps they were going to celebrate their mutual respect between parent/friend and son/friend  

It most likely didn't even occurr to the kid that the parent would be saving it. Why would it? He probably can't tell the different between a

[ChadTower]

This guy doesn't sound like a parent, nor does he remember being a teenager apparently, so he's not going to get it.

Some teens, especially boys larger than avg, are going to do what they want when they want and could give a crap what the consequences are.  My brother was like that.  This kid sounds like that.  These are the ones who either wind up in jail or some larger guy in the street teaches them what the consequences of such behaviour are... if they ever learn.  

You can't always reason with a kid.  It would be nice if you could, but there are times when you just can't.

[Dartful Dodger]

I never really liked wine as a kid and still only drink lager. Never did me any harm...

According to your bio, your 19.

You've got plenty of time to become an alcoholic.

[DrewKaree]

This guy doesn't sound like a parent, nor does he remember being a teenager apparently, so he's not going to get it.

Good point, and if, as DD says, he's 19, then he doesn't have to remember being a teenager, he's still going through it.  I noticed an aversion to replying to specific points such as him respecting the idea that he's not the one who decides what is special enough to enjoy that Dom, and doesn't address the fact that the real world would treat this kid harsher (although harsh isn't a term he grasps very well) than mom & dad.  

These are the ones who either wind up in jail or some larger guy in the street teaches them what the consequences of such behaviour are... if they ever learn.

That's the point he'll never understand....in his mind, that wouldn't be possible if you would "reason" with them, but that's how they'll get into jail in the first place, by being unwilling to "reason" with the laws and generally-accepted guidelines of civilized society.  

[Sasquatch!]

Ahahahahaha, that's awesome.

[Magnet_Eye]

The kid got off easy!

When I was 16 (1986)  I got caught shoplifting a Led Zeppelin cassette tape at kmart. My step father took everything I owned and took it to the city dump. I'm talking a HUGE comic book collection, baseball cards, starwars cards, stamp collection, coin collection, star wars toys collection, hot wheels cars collection, my TI-994/a computer system...EVERYTHING!!! Thousands of dollars worth of stuff!  

He let me keep my clothes, my bed and dresser. thats it.  

I bet if I had that stuff today, I would be rich!  


PS - Anyone remember the song by The Descendents, PARENTS?

Parents, why won't they shut up?
Parent's they're so f**ked up.
They treat me like a tool
They take me for a fool
Parents...
They're so f**king dense
They look into the past
For future reference
Parents...
They don't even know I'm a boy
Just treat me like a toy
But little do they know
One day I'll explode!
Parents...


  ParentS!

[J_K_M_A_N]

The kid got off easy!

When I was 16 (1986)  I got caught shoplifting a Led Zeppelin cassette tape at kmart. My step father took everything I owned and took it to the city dump. I'm talking a HUGE comic book collection, baseball cards, starwars cards, stamp collection, coin collection, star wars toys collection, hot wheels cars collection, my TI-994/a computer system...EVERYTHING!!! Thousands of dollars worth of stuff!  

He let me keep my clothes, my bed and dresser. thats it.  

I bet if I had that stuff today, I would be rich!  


PS - Anyone remember the song by The Descendents, PARENTS?

Parents, why won't they shut up?
Parent's they're so f**ked up.
They treat me like a tool
They take me for a fool
Parents...
They're so f**king dense
They look into the past
For future reference
Parents...
They don't even know I'm a boy
Just treat me like a toy
But little do they know
One day I'll explode!
Parents...


  ParentS!

Do you feel like you hate him for that still? I mean, that was a bit harsh but is it something that you have held onto? I sometimes wonder if I go to far with my son and think, "Will he hate me when we get older?" I mean, I am not to worried about it now because you have to be a parent first and a friend second and kids don't know as much as they think. I once told my dad I was going to stab him. I never would of course but I was mad and I wanted a reaction. If my son said that to me I would either kill him or be afraid of him when I sleep. Now I wish I would have had more time with my dad. I learned WAY more from him than I could have ever realized at the time. So of it I learned when I thought he was being too harsh. (Which I know now, he wasn't).

KidS

J_K_M_A_N

[SirPeale]

Do you feel like you hate him for that still?

When I was in high school I tried out for sports.  During the physical they were asking the usual questions.  And they asked the one about chest pain, and I said yes, sometimes I get a little chest pain under a lot of exertion.

So they put me thru all these tests, including some rather invasive ones. They found that my heart was slightly enlarged and not outputing @ peak capacity.  They gave me some medication and recommended I take it easier.

When I was in high school I was *very* active.  I didn't run, but I swam during the summer, and I always biked wherever I had to go (since I had no license or car) and that was upwards of 20 miles day, and in Vermont, you know most of that is hills.

So I wanted to letter in something my senior year.  My parents, worried that I'd die, refused to sign the permission forms so I could participate.  From a parenting POV I can kind of understand, but I'd never stand in the way of my kids wanting something like that.

I was in track, cross country, cross country skiing...and I had to leave them all because they wouldn't sign the damn forms.  Yet I was still exerting a high level of physical activity.

To this day, 14 years later, I resent them for that.  And here's the kicker: I recently had a physical, and told the doctor about what they found when I was a teenager.  He sent me for tests for updated results.  Now, I hadn't taken that medication since I was 18 or so, simply because I felt fine, and was on my own and couldn't afford it.  They found *nothing* wrong.  They speculate it was just part of my growing cycle, and my body outgrew it.