Virtua Fighter cab questions

[pakchooi]

Hi everybody ,  excellent forum you have here, loads of useful information.

I'm starting my mame cab this weekend and I'll be picking up a Virtua Fighter cabinet on Friday to build into.
The guy who is giving me it says the monitor is fine but the board is fried (don't need the board anyway,obviously).
There should be loads of usable parts on it etc.

My main question is about the monitor; has anyone had any experience with the Virtua Fighter screens?
What should I be looking out for?
I've had a look around and they seem to either come with Nanao Med-Res or Well Garner K5000.
Med-res appears to be a no-go for mame, is this correct?

Any other info/documentation on the Virtua Fighter cabs would also be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance, Pak.

[walls83]

I dont know the answer to you question but I know someone does. welcom to BYOAC.  You might check the MONITOR forums for your answer though.

[pakchooi]

I am after *any* esoteric knowledge on the Virtua Fighter cab, but
yeah, I probably posted this in the wrong section.
Sorry:-[
If a mod could move it there I'd be grateful.

[Minwah]

I'm sure I've read (in the Monitor Forum) that Virtua Fighter (& similar Sega cabs) often come with 15 / 25khz (ie standard / medium res) switchable screens.

Try a search through the monitor board, or hopefully Ken Layton will read this...

Try to find out from the guy what model the screen is, that would help also.

[pakchooi]

I found this:
http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=V&game_id=10328
which says that it is "Type: Raster: Medium Resolution"

But, as Minwah says, a search of the forum does reveal some having a 15/25 switchable potiential. In fact it was one of Kens posts that helped resolve this question for someone else.

Thanks so far everyone

[SkateDetroit]

::looks around:: did someone say Virtua Fighter?!

My own personal machine has a Nanao medium res that I have a sneaking suspicion is actually dual switchable res. My friends cab came with a Hantranex that I know for sure is dual switchable. His is clearly labled with a tab attached to the cable you move to change the resolution.

Virtua Fighter boards are easily had on  Ebay, and since it's not emulated properly you should really consider fixing that bad boy

I'm partial to the game. Becareful moving it around! 450 Lbs!!!

[Dave_K.]

As far as I know most of the VF cabs do not have a switchable monitor, they are med res only.  Obviously you should confirm this before buying.

[Dave_K.]

My own personal machine has a Nanao medium res that I have a sneaking suspicion is actually dual switchable res. My friends cab came with a Hantranex that I know for sure is dual switchable. His is clearly labled with a tab attached to the cable you move to change the resolution.

I have a switchable monitor in my "NBA on NBC" cabinet.  Unofruntally its not clearly labeled.  Found out there is a jumper plug and two sockets.  The jumper on one socket makes it med res, unplug, and replug into the other socket and its now std res.  The jumper plug just has wires that loop back into itself.

If you nano doesn't have this its probably not switchable.  

[Superdude]

You probably have a Nanao Monitor in there.  I have had 3 virtua fighter games and they all had the switchable Nanao Monitors.  High = Med  Low=Standard.  Can't miss it!!!

[DaveJ-UK]

I just got a Sega cab today which has a WG K7193 in it

[consoledirect]

Hi,

I have a virtua fighter remix cabinet. It runs on the stock / standard screen. It is a 15.7khz and runs beautifully. The screen is very nice. This cabinet is black and is a Standard ST-V Cabinet. I would go for either a 15.7 monitor like mine or get a 31 khz monitor like I have in my Sega Megalo 41". The second one runs dreamcast or pc straight out of the box without any mods. Just plug in and wire the controllers and your set. Very Very nice.

[pakchooi]

SkateDetroit: It just didn't occur to me to do a restoration job on it. Now you've mentioned it though I'll look into it.

Dave_K: I'm not paying for it, the guy is giving it for free. This obviously gives me quite a bit of flexiblity over what is done with the Cab. So far the entire project has cost

[AlanS17]

Now I may be mistaken, but I believe Virtua Fighter cabinets are actually worth something. I would check to make sure you aren't damaging something worth some money. I'm not the biggest fan of the game myself, and even though it's a milestone it's no classic. However, if the thing is worth some money you may want to look into it.

[SkateDetroit]

The "High" and "Low" is what was giving me the impression that the Nanaos are Medium Res. I'm beginning to believe that Sega put only dual switchables in that cabinet. Hence i've seen alot of conversions done with that cab.

The weight of the cab is some what the monitor but mostly the build. I could climb inside it with the monitor in and shut myself in with room to spare. You really could use it like a closet.  

As far restoring it, on ebay depending on the day and the buyer expect anywherebetween 3-500 for a good looking and working machine. In a retail shop expect a bit more.

I thought of putting different games in mine at times just to switch things up a bit. I.E. Dead or Alive 2, Virtua Fighter 2, and etc... All Med. Res games.

Final thoughts: If it's in good condition and you have most of the pieces for the cab (Marquee, Bezel, Good artwork on CP, Good artwork on sides) check into picking up some game boards. The game boards alone are a piece of work. Sega and GE Aerospace worked together to make a 3d simulator, so they developed the hardware that is in the Virtua Fighter. Basically the building blocks for all 3d fighting games to come. The hardware was expensive to make so there are only 4 games on that particular platform. (VF, Virtua Racing, and a couple others).

So no the game isn't a classic (yet), but for someone who isn't an old timer it was a very big step in games to me. I am proud to own the machine and I plan on playing it while technology advances and arcade games are beamed directly into your head via satellite.

 
               

Here's a good site for Model 1 information.

http://www.system16.com/sega/hrdw_model1.html

[ChadTower]

Does anyone here know anything about the 50" projection monitor that came with the deluxe cabinets?  I have a deluxe VF2 cabinet and can't find jack for info about the monitor despite searching all over... even Mitsubishi (the Mitsu logo is on it) claims no knowledge...

I have been hoping to mame that sucker (a 50" mame cab!) but can't find anything on the monitor.  

[pakchooi]

Whilst looking for info on my cab I found this on the 50" screen version
(dunno if it's of any help)

Model Number: VS50-SE1
Sega Part Number: 2001-5265
Flyback Number: 998-0066 Thru 0069 tubes and lead
Resolution: Med (24kx60)

I can't remember where I found it as I've been trawling for info for days on VF machines.

[ChadTower]

Well, it's a bit more than I had, anyway.  Since I've been hoping to MAME this sucker... and you seem to have confirmed what I feared, which is that that huge monitor is medium res... is it possible to MAME a medium res machine?  I haven't looked into that yet.

OR, what are the odds this 50" is switchable?  I still haven't been able to find monitor docs.

[Superdude]

Yes Mame works with Medium Rez Monitors.  You have 2 options though.  You can run windows 98 with special Trident Drivers for the Tblade 16 or you can run Advance Mame with Advance Menu in DOS.  I created a Medium Rez Mame cab and it worked out fine and looked great.
If you neeed help let me know.

[pakchooi]

/\ /\ This is good news  

[ChadTower]

Yes Mame works with Medium Rez Monitors.  You have 2 options though.  You can run windows 98 with special Trident Drivers for the Tblade 16 or you can run Advance Mame with Advance Menu in DOS.  I created a Medium Rez Mame cab and it worked out fine and looked great.
If you neeed help let me know.

That IS good news, since I'm not going to find another 50" RGB monitor.    Another part of my desire with this was to be able to run console emulators... Do those Trident Drivers allow you to run Win98 natively at that res, or is it just able to configure certain programs to run at that resolution?

Of those two options, given that I would like to run MAME and console emulators, which would you recommend?  Trident or AdvanceMAME/DOS?

[pakchooi]

I just picked up the cab,  apparently the board is ok,  but the powersupply is
gone. Looks like a restoration is feasable after all:D
Any good links for 2nd hand psu's?

[SkateDetroit]

Did you check the fuses on the power supply?

[pakchooi]

When I say *gone* I mean not there at all.
Removed.

[ChadTower]

FYI:

I talked to Andy @ Ultimarc to see if they had plans for a medium res ArcadeVGA driver.  He said they didn't, but he did give me his honest opnion (seeing as how I was no longer looking to purchase his card, I see ho reason he wasn't honest) on the Blade card solution.  According to him it's not all that great a solution, that it works, but it's probably the least of the solutions in terms of end results.

So for those of us with Medium res monitors, it looks like AdvanceMAME is it.

[Superdude]

You will run into one problem running DOS though.  You will hit the PEAK point in DOS.  (MEANING you can have a PC that is VERY FAST but won't help in DOS) If you need my .CFG files for ADVMAME and ADVMENU let me know soon.  A guy just bought the machine from me and is paying me little by little for it.  I can snag it off for ya, and since it is the same machine monitor it should work perfectly.