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21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« on: April 29, 2004, 05:06:19 pm »
Has anyone built a cocktail style cab with a 21" monitor?

I see most have a 19" monitor. I have chance on getting a good deal on a NOS 21" (its cheaper than a new 19") and now wondering if I should go for it or not.

Obviously i will need to adjust the dimensions of the std cab design to accomodate it. just wondered if it has been done before?

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Re:21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2004, 05:32:50 pm »
I can't remeber exactly who, but I've seen 21" and even up to 25" monitors in cocktails.

search the project announcements for "cocktail".

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Re:21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2004, 05:34:28 pm »
I built my cocktail with a 19" monitor. I thought in the end there would be more room in the cab than there actually ended up being. I had no problems fitting anything but it ended up being pretty close. I know there is no way I could fit a 21" in there though, biggest problem being a 21" would be too deep and crush my Motherboard.

If you plan out your cab you shouldn't have a problem with a 21".

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Re:21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2004, 10:26:13 am »
the only thing i am a bit concerned with is how best to mount the monitor so that securely held. Any suggestion on the best approach to take?

the weight of the monitor is approx 22kg.

will the mounting points around the tube should be strong enough to take the whole weight of the monitor in cocktail orientation?

http://www.hantarex.co.uk/pdf/MTCEQ3.pdf

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Re:21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2004, 11:17:40 am »
The brackets will probably be able to mount the entire weight. If you plan on mounting the monitor to the top make sure you use bolts. IF you don't mount the monitor to the top a good approach might be to mount some cleets made from some scrap pieces of wood on the inside of your cab. You can then set the monitor down and brackets sit down on these like a shelf.

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Re:21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2004, 03:54:27 pm »
...a good approach might be to mount some cleets made from some scrap pieces of wood on the inside of your cab. You can then set the monitor down and brackets sit down on these like a shelf.

sorry but i don't quite understand what you mean by cleets. can you explain? maybe a simple illustration would good?

thanks for your advice.

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Re:21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2004, 05:06:07 pm »
Check out this thread by oscar. Check out the photo "Bezel board Brace" Since you already have mounting braces on your monitor, you can skip probably the whole building of a bezel on your cocktail.

http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=18049

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Re:21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2004, 05:40:37 pm »
yes! oscars mounting method would do the job well. just wondering how easy to find the Z brackets only ever seen L's in Homebase ( i'm in the UK )

Also...somebody suggested in another posting: boxing in the monitor so if i ever moved the cab i could remove the monitor (to save weight) and it would then be well protected outside of the cab. what do you think?

i assume i would have to make sure there were plenty of ventilation holes in the box!

do arcade monitors get very hot during operation?

maybe it would need a fan on it?

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Re:21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2004, 06:39:05 pm »
yes! oscars mounting method would do the job well. just wondering how easy to find the Z brackets only ever seen L's in Homebase ( i'm in the UK )


OSCAR just bent L-brackets in a vice.  Good luck.

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Re:21" monitor in cocktail cab?
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2004, 07:05:45 pm »
That is correct, I used a vise to add the extra bend in the L-brackets.  What I use for making special brackets and such is a vise brake like this one:  http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?ItemNumber=H3243.  It's one of those types of tools that you pick up on a whim, then wonder how you got along without it.  I use the vise brake so much, I bought another vise for my workbench so I could keep them installed all the time.


Anyway, another method for installing a monitor with a shelf-style frame is to attach it to the side panel of the cab, like how the Midway cocktails were made.  The side opposite the coin door swung down (the top is permanently attached to the side panel), and so the entire top, side, and monitor swings out of the cab when you open it up.  Below is a pic of how I installed a W-G K7000 in my cocktail.  Notice how I built a riser base for the monitor to center the monitor in the top cutout.



This makes it very easy to access the entire monitor and guts of the cocktail.  There are more pics at www.oscarcontrols.com/cocktail.