Author Topic: pedestal cab (Read 12330 times)

AX · « **on:** February 24, 2004, 01:59:59 pm »

anyone have plans for building this type of cab? TIA

http://www.dreamauthentics.com/index_mega.htm

hulkster · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2004, 02:07:47 pm »

nope, there are NO plans for this cab. ive spent hours scouring the net trying to find some, but to no avail. im building one as well http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=16166 check out the Mamestrosity!

but anyway, what i did was to search for "showcase arcade" and "showcase cab" and "atari showcase" (since some of the showcase cabs use 33" monitors has something to do with atari...go figure) but do a search for those and it should give you some examples. that dreamauthentics page is where i got my design from. mine will be similar in some regards but im mainly taking designs from all the pages ive found with pics of their showcase cabs, and just kinda judge to see what i wanted. ive never built a cab before so this was a big deal for me...however i just looked and kinda made up my own design. its really not as hard as a regular standup cab actually. anyway, look at the 3D feature of the mega cab on that page and rotate it to get an idea of what you want. ill be glad to give tips from what ive done so far and roadblocks that ive run into if you need it! just let me know!

AX · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2004, 02:17:55 pm »

your CP is perfect. would you happen to have a layout or dimensions on it?

hulkster · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2004, 02:22:42 pm »

i dont have any plans per se, but what i did was take plans from TalkingOctopus's website (great cab by the way! and i hope you dont mind me doing this) http://webpages.charter.net/rbecker5/ for his cp, and just kinda use the measurements he gives. then i went to lusids site and printed off the little joystick and button layouts (but i think you can get them from talkingoct's site as well) and printed them out. four of them. and then i drew out what i wanted my panel to look like on the outside, then took the printouts and just kinda layed them on the mdf drawing and positioned them like i wanted them, putting the trackball in the very center so as to have something to measure by for the players on the outside. then i basically just played with that and moved everything around till i got something i liked. im at work right now,a nd i will be getting exact measurements soon for pixelhugger who is doing my cp art, so if you can, hold off till then. that maybe a couple of days or so though.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2004, 02:26:38 pm »

Actually, there ARE a set of plans, but it's a basic design. I've got 'em somewhere but I gotta run off somewhere and I'll try to post 'em later today. They take a bit of "WTF is THIS page for" the first time you look at them, but they're not bad.

After seeing them, you'll realize you can EASILY build one without a plan. The CP will be THE hardest thing to make. It's almost like making a desktop CP and slapping it onto a podium.

hulkster · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2004, 03:08:27 pm »

true, its not hard. im going to try to complete the cp pedestal first, like the whole bit...paint, cp art, t-molding, etc. ill get that completely done and then work on the monitor section.

unclet · « **Reply #6 on:** February 24, 2004, 04:00:51 pm »

If went through the process of building something like that, I would find it hard not to also build a driving cab module and DDR module which you could interchange with the 4-player control panel module. Basically wheel the 4-player control panel out olf the way and roll in the driving cab or DDR metal pad or some other thing, like dual light guns, etc..

hulkster · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2004, 04:19:07 pm »

well i will probably eventually make a panel with a couple of steering wheels and pedals and stuff, but thats in the distant future...and plus...im getting married so my fiance is already having a heart attack.

unclet · « **Reply #8 on:** February 24, 2004, 05:49:30 pm »

Its always good to do this sort of stuff pre-marriage

As for the time after you are married, just remember it is easier to apologize than it is to get permission

hulkster · « **Reply #9 on:** February 24, 2004, 06:34:36 pm »

yeah well ive already bought stuff and didnt tell her that was buying it, but she asked about it about a week ago and i played it off like i had already told her i was building another cab. now she just sighs when i talk about it

shes cool with it though, she rolled her eyes at my first one, but she loved it when i got it done!

Solidus · « **Reply #10 on:** February 24, 2004, 07:08:52 pm »

Quote from: drewkaree on February 24, 2004, 02:26:38 pm

Actually, there ARE a set of plans, but it's a basic design. I've got 'em somewhere but I gotta run off somewhere and I'll try to post 'em later today. They take a bit of "WTF is THIS page for" the first time you look at them, but they're not bad.

After seeing them, you'll realize you can EASILY build one without a plan. The CP will be THE hardest thing to make. It's almost like making a desktop CP and slapping it onto a podium.

Do you mean a set of plans for the mega arcade like the one @ dreamauthentics? If so im DEFINENTLY interested in them

DrewKaree · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2004, 02:06:15 am »

Here are the plans. Remember, you may utter "WTF?!?" when you first look at them, but once you finger them out, you'll see it's a pretty basic design. I'm just using them as a rough guideline and modifying to suit my needs. Perhaps when I'm done, I MAY (read: if I have "spare" valuable free time) measure the thing up and post 'em. There really are no funky angles necessary, though, so unlike a stand-up cab, you won't need your kid's scientific calculator to figure out how to mount your screen! lol

BTW, the Photoshop buttons and templates I made will be posted under the topic *trumpets and fanfare* "Photoshop Buttons and Button Layout Templates.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2004, 02:08:44 am »

2nd Page.....anyone know how to attach more than one thing at a time?

There's a total of 4 pages....see next post, same bat time, same bat forum.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2004, 02:11:55 am »

3 of 4

DrewKaree · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2004, 02:14:19 am »

Last one....4 of 4

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #15 on:** February 25, 2004, 03:05:30 am »

Quote from: AX on February 24, 2004, 02:17:55 pm

your CP is perfect. would you happen to have a layout or dimensions on it?

I wouldn't say "PERFECT" as the trackball is waaaay too close to that 2nd player joystick.....

i would put the spinner somewhere else, and pushed that trackball up a few inches...at least!

just my personal opinion btw.

otjher than that, it is a nice 4 player CP.

Solidus · « **Reply #16 on:** February 25, 2004, 07:10:58 am »

Thank you so much drew, ill put these plans to use ASAP and post pics within a timely fashion

hulkster · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2004, 07:40:27 am »

nice job with the plans. i think my cp base and monitor base will be a little more flashy than those plans. just little stuff as you can tell in my Mamestrosity project in the proj. forum. one thing im trying to figure out....if you look at the monitor part...not the base pedestal, but the box that holds the tv....will the tv hang out the back of the box? i mean, you set the tv in the frame that you have, and then the back of the tv....where does it go? just hang out the back? that will solve heat issues i guess, but it will look kinda funky. i went to my local arcade and saw one of their showcase cabs, and they have the monitor hanging out the back, but with like a metal frame with vents screwed to the back. well i dont have a metal frame, and i have no clue how to make one or substitue for one. any suggestions?

DrewKaree · « **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2004, 01:17:24 pm »

yeah, I wondered about the back end of the TV myself. As I picked up the 27" TV I was gonna use, the one thing I noticed was it's WAY front heavy. If you look at most of these designs, the monitor base is essentially an upside down "T". My plan is to go with a completely enclosed cabinet (look at someone's entertainment center for an example of what I mean) and then wire two exhaust fans above the TV. The reason for the exhaust fans is to wick away the heat. The TV I got for free cuz it was overheating and having problems (also had it happen with a smaller one, too) so I know for CERTAIN you want removal of heat from the back of your TV.

The metal frame seems to be a standard, as they've got the same thing on the machines in the arcade by me. I bet that's just on there so some knucklehead doesn't shove something into it and either electrocute himself or screw up the machine! If you and your fiance plan to have kids, or you may have kids over to the house once in a while, enclose the whole shebang and have one less thing you have to worry about. I've got three 27" TV's. Depths of them from front of tube to back of set are 19 3/4", 20 1/2", and 20". Add perhaps another 2 inches for cords to exit without a 90 degree kink in 'em and that should be enough.....not a monolithic-looking structure, IMO, like a bookcase, but just a bit thicker.

If you want the metal frame, angle iron will probably work just fine. You'll need a drill press and tapping oil to make fastener holes, or be able to weld. Then, just fachion a box frame with that.

hulkster · « **Reply #19 on:** February 25, 2004, 01:36:15 pm »

well i thought about making one big box like thing for the monitor part, but that would defeat the purpose of one of my goals with this project. and that is that i wanted to be able to be disassembled in a somewhat easy fashion. i would have 4 pieces....1 is the cp box, 2 is the cp pedestal, 3 is the monitor base, and 4 is the monitor box. so if built one big thing for the monitor like on the gauntlet legends cabs at www.klov.com, if you look at their showcase style part, its all incased. so what i may do, is just build that back brace part out of mdf. i know it may be a little weird, but it would work. the whole metal thing is a big deal for me and i dont have a drill press or welding skills or anything like that. im still trying to think of what to put back there, but right now the only thing that comes to mind is a box frame made out of mdf.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #20 on:** February 25, 2004, 05:12:10 pm »

Sorry, I was kinda vague when I said "one big box". I think you need 2 units for the monitor tower, as well. Moving it would be a royal PITA, otherwise! What I pictured in my mind was a box for the monitor base (3'-ishH x 2'6"-ishW x 20"-ish D). On top of that would be the TV box (?H x 2'6"-ishW x 20"-ish D). I've already thought about how to keep them connected and steady....See the attachment for what I'm gonna use to keep the two-piece monitor tower connected to each other. That thingy is a table-leaf latch. A window sash latch is almost the same thing, and can be easily seen at your local Home Depot store.

As far as the MDF, considering it's span strength and what it will be holding, (an 8000 lb gorilla!) I have serious doubts that it'll suit your needs without sagging in a short while.

Let me check my Home Depot Disk and see if I can provide you a picture of the type of angle iron I'm talking about. I'm pretty confident something can be fashioned without drilling, but drilling/welding is the first thing off the top of my head that I KNOW will work. I'll work on a pic of it for ya.

pmailley · « **Reply #21 on:** February 25, 2004, 08:42:52 pm »

I have had plans listed on the Web for almost a year now, they are not great, but they are mine, and I can take more measurements if you need!
My Web site is http://home.comcast.net/~pmailley/
Any questions please feel free to Email me!
There are pictures on the site to, I also was unable to find plans.
Hope it helps!

hulkster · « **Reply #22 on:** February 25, 2004, 08:47:17 pm »

okay, is your tv just sticking out the back of the monitor box part? what do you have as a guard for the back of the tv. can you take a picture of the back of your cab?

pmailley · « **Reply #23 on:** February 25, 2004, 09:23:43 pm »

I am using a 27" vga monitor in a steel cab. these monitors are used in bowling lanes for scoreboards, I will be happy to send you a picture of the back.

pmailley · « **Reply #24 on:** February 25, 2004, 09:30:17 pm »

Sorry forgot the picture, sorry about the dust!

hulkster · « **Reply #25 on:** February 25, 2004, 10:24:37 pm »

okay next question....how did you make that?!?!?

pmailley · « **Reply #26 on:** February 26, 2004, 07:19:37 am »

The Monitor case comes with the monitor, it is a big steel box, it was beige in color, I sprayed it black.
Since the top section is only 12" deep I think your TV will work fine, I have measured my 32" TV and the case is about 11" before it starts going back to a cone.
Just make the back boards that come in from the side meet up with the back of your TV.
I think it should work out fine, also when your building it make the Monitor box (the whole top part of the pedestal) to size perfect with your TV.

hulkster · « **Reply #27 on:** February 26, 2004, 09:55:35 am »

okay, another question for you. what kind of speakers do you have (cheap/expensive) and how many do you have? also, are 2 speakers enough for a showcase cab? im debating on putting 4 in, 2 on the monitor part, and 2 on a attachment for the cp, but if i can get by with 2, id rather do that.

pmailley · « **Reply #28 on:** February 26, 2004, 12:06:48 pm »

I use a 3 speaker system, 2 up in the monitor housing and 1 sub woofer that sits on the L part of the cab in the back, below the monitor. I use Altec Lansing Model# XA3021 system, and would strongly recommend it to you! You can find them on Ebay or I buy mine at a local store here in town. they are about $40.00 for the set. They also have a very nice controler that comes with it for Volume and bass control, it mounts nice on your Cab.

hulkster · « **Reply #29 on:** February 26, 2004, 01:28:30 pm »

well ive got some Boston speakers that i bought a few years ago that are really, and it comes with a sub as well. i may just use that.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #30 on:** February 27, 2004, 08:04:28 am »

Pmailley, those plans I posted above are from your site, I believe. At this point, I can't seem to find my way back to it to check, but will do so later in the day.

I don't want to take ANY credit for your plans, just knew I had DL'd them and saved them from way back when..

Also, about the color of your machines (I noticed your other mame machine looks to be the same color) what/where is that color? Looks almost to be a custom job, or is it the camera & lighting?

pmailley · « **Reply #31 on:** February 27, 2004, 04:55:04 pm »

drewkaree,
Worry not about the plans, I would love to have more people to pass them out, I did not want to sound like I cared that you where helping others with my plans, send them to everyone please, I have yet to see anyone build one since I posted the plans.
The color I use is a custom High gloss paint, that I had mixed at Home Depot, I am not sure what the color is called, It has 5 coats anr is very smooth, The Mame logo is cut out of 1 piece of light blue vinyl and outlined with black marker.
The web site is http://home.comcast.net/~pmailley/
Thanks for helping.

temazur · « **Reply #32 on:** February 29, 2004, 08:08:00 pm »

Pmailley,

Stupid newb question here:

What type of monitor did you use? 27" TV or PC?

Thanks!!

pmailley · « **Reply #33 on:** February 29, 2004, 08:26:21 pm »

There is know such thing as a stubid Question, I can't begin to tell you how many I have asked in the past 3 year.
Some people will help you, no question asked, and others will tell you how stupid you are, just forget them.
Anyway that was a 27" VGA Monitor


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